Are citizens obligated to help armed police in a scenario where the officer is highly stressed? For example, there are stories of officers opening fire on plain clothes officers attempting to assist.
Helping Armed Police
Asher Edwards
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Adam Foster
Anyone? Any experience giving an officer a hand?
Cameron Bennett
Pretty sure in some states in the US it's illegal to refuse an order from an officer to help if they ask.
Jordan Stewart
Mike The Cop actually has a pretty interesting video on it, I dont have the link onhand right now. The primary points are when you reasonably believe the cop needs assistance, when the officer specificly asks, and I cant quite remember the last part. If you do approach a LEO that needs help you shluld not come from behind, and be sure to make yourself announced that you're hwlping the officer. Combat is confusing and when plain clothes officers get shot its mlstly because they did not announce themselves.
Logan Ortiz
Camden Rivera
>cops ask for help
Fuck them, theyll fuck you for no reason at all. They dont get my help
Christopher Wood
Unless they specifically ask for help you're probably gonna end up doing more harm than good, the best thing you could do to help a cop is try to keep a crowd from getting too close and becoming a liability.
Matthew Powell
Are they obligated by law to protect me? Nah I’m not getting involved and hurt killed or sued cause fuckface mcticket cant do his job. Cops don’t drop by my work and pitch in.
Cameron Johnson
There is no reason at all you should be around a cop in a stressful situation. If you find yourself in a situation and there's an officer nearby, leave. There is literally no good to come of being there for you.
There's no reason to interact with cops at all if you can avoid it. People get busted for utter bullshit plenty.
Josiah Morgan
>help a cop is try to keep a crowd from getting too close and becoming a liability.
>i.e. becoming yet another member of the crowd in order to interact with said crowd
Brilliant
Oliver Price
Negative.
Just like they arent obligated to NOT magdump you on accident and get a free paid vacation.
Cooper Peterson
It depends. I'm not going to run out into the open armed and in plain view of a dozen jumpy cops because I don't want to get mistaken for another gunman.
However, if I was in a position that flanked the suspect, I had a long gun, and my inaction may result in cops getting killed then I would take the shot.
Hunter Barnes
Elijah Green
>voluntarily interacting with cops
>ever
oh sweet child
William Smith
The police are not your friend.
Matthew Peterson
DO YOU HAVE A LOICENSE FOR THAT PHONE?
Levi Evans
>be you
>helpful citizen
>see a conflict in progress
>oh boy!
>go to help the cop
>bitter highschool dropout that has spent the last 25 years being a cop because he's not good for anything else, developed a retarded sense of entitlement because he can shoot at people and get paid
>sees the situation as "retard fatass cop cant chase petty criminal so untrained civilian has to help"
>empties mag on both of you
>"I felt threatened. I feared for my life. I just did what I thought was best"
>gets suspended, still gets paid
>gets readmitted once the media moves on to the next cover story
If cops were actually passionate law enforcers instead of highschool bullies with no skills besides patrolling and powertripping, I'd help anywhere I could.
Until then Magdump Bruce can magdump on his own.
Luis Price
>Are citizens obligated to help armed police in a scenario where the officer is highly stressed
absolutely not in most jurisdictions. IIRC some places do have laws along the lines of "its illegal not to help somebody if there's no reasonable risk to you" like ignoring a choking man because you're late to work so that could be an issue under the right circumstance but i seem to recall them being questioned a lot legally.
Daniel Sanchez
sounds like a good way to get shot, especially if you try to assist while carrying, fuck that noise.
Cooper Nguyen
liveleak.com is your friend. Watch a few of the countless videos of woefully inept police breaking down during mildly stressful while utilizing lethal force. The average cop can't shoot for shit, is trained to NOT take initiative, and strongly incentivized to follow protocol and to protect their fellow officers at all costs. After you've watched those videos, watch a few dozen of police actively fucking with citizens who aren't breaking any laws.
If they are a good cop they might accidentally ventilate you and feel guilty afterwards. If they are a bad cop they might fuck with you because you are filming in public and don't lick their boots.
These are general problems that plague all western police forces to varying degrees. The bottom line is, they aren't there to protect you, they aren't capable of protecting you, and they sure as hell aren't going to understand your good intentions telepathically. They would also probably shoot your dog and arrest you for building a shed on your property if given half the chance.
Jaxon Gomez
Video related is a good example. LEOs are not a combat unit and never will be, regardless of what they internally believe. Their behavior shows this.
Daniel Parker
Pop a link mate
Zachary Gonzalez
Jeremiah Campbell
That's gotta be one of the saddest things i've ever seen.
Justin Jones
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Dominic Smith
If so, don't draw your weapon before announcing that you're there to help. Cops are trained to shoot on sight the second they see an unknown with a gun.
Similarly, you don't pursue an active shooter if you have your gun with you; they will mistake you for the aggressor.
There was an Art of Manliness podcast where Brett interviewed a CCW Instructor and self-defense attorney. He said the best self-defense is to get away from the situation. m.soundcloud.com
Ayden Martin
I remember hearing on the radio about a man stopping a man from drowning a WV state cop a couple years back, retrieved the officers sidearm and shot Junkie McFelon dead with it. They gave him a medal or something.
Jaxon Bailey
Can someone please explain exactly what happened here? I think I get it. They were arresting white trash in a field, cop noticed another white trash with a gun and opened fire, and then broke down probably because he thought he'd done something bad maybe?
Angel Roberts
They can only order you to do shit, up to a certain degree. Back in the day in England that was a big thing. Peace officers would some times work alone in bum fuck no where areas, they wouldn't have any back up for a very long distance, some king fuck, ordered that people had to respond to the aid when needed.
My South def just rises again.
Gabriel Sanchez
I'd probably just leave desu. I carry for my protection, not for society's.
The police aren't legally obligated to help you in an emergency situation, so I can't imagine the reverse is true.
Angel Rivera
I'd like to read about this story. Any source on it?
Jordan Gonzalez
Oliver Carter
>For example, there are stories totally unrelated to my question
Useless link
Cooper Lee
Nice. This way a civilian has a good chance to get blamed for the mistakes done by the cops. Or to be shot by the same cops. By all means go ahead. A life in wheelchair will clearly be worth the 3 seconds of glory.
Connor Martin
Sorry about your CJ degree
Cameron Garcia
There is one situation where I could see a civilian come in handy. The goatfucking terrorists of the last few years have liked to attack cops and others in uniform on the open street with knives, hammers, machetes, that sort of thing. Attacking alone or in pairs. I feel that in such a clear cut situation a civilian could and should step in to save the cop or soldier or whatever's life. If we stand there gaping then we are not just letting the cop down. We are letting our countries down. You may ask, how do we tell a meth fan from a terrorist? I feel the Allahu Snackbar shout is a sign clear enough. Let it become a Allahu argharghbleedbleedthud.
Isaiah Wood
>British cop
Sorry officer. I could have helped had I been carrying my side arm. Good luck on your own.
Xavier Rivera
>Mike the Cop
Mike the insufferable bitch boy. Officer401 is the best YouTube cop.
Ryder Powell
Fuck no. Everyman for him self and their own. They sure as hell abide by that rule so why should I be any different?
Jaxon Walker
you need to finish high school to join the police in most european countries actually
Asher Thompson
whats that white chick doing in Chinese police uniform?
She a Chinese citizen thats an ethnic Russian. or she a recent immigrant from Russia or other former Soviet nation that became a Chinese citizen?
Asher Sullivan
Deputy here from North Carolina, in our county if you help an officer during a deadly force incident you are automatically covered by the county’s workman’s comp
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Here in Norway police education is three years in police college. More, if you want to do tactical stuff or criminology.
Blake Ortiz
I enjoy Theodor kittelsen's drawings.
Jackson Rogers
Why are Norwegian women such loose dirty whores?
Gavin Powell
nice , 1 and a half year of formation here in brussels
was surprised to see a cop with a Jow Forums badge on the back of his stab vest the other day
Mason Rogers
Which county? Is it buncombe?
Luis Edwards
You make it sound like a bad thing. And our men are proud to be their equals. Last I checked we had the international record in one night stands, What can I say; we are mostly blondes, sex is great and our winters are cruel. And baby, it's cold outside.
Parker Howard
Are you sure it wasn't a K9 badge?
Matthew Wood
Oh. and just to put the vanilla cream on top - minimum age for intercourse is sweet, sweet 16.
Jose Rogers
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this guy posts stuff from police officers and one of his posts was this
would love to know the Jow Forumsommando whos a cop here in my little country
Jace Watson
>cop breaking down because they thought they did something wrong.
Cute.
Josiah Jones
So you have a grayman in your ranks. That is way cool.
William Bennett
Damn these grey guys got gucci stuff
Brandon Ortiz
were 2 now
Sebastian Gonzalez
From morally upstanding tribesmen to degenerate nigger loving sex hounds. Classic Norway.
Andrew Ward
Ahem . WHat nigger loving? That¨s more a swedish thing
Jace White
>cherry pick videos that will make you dislike cops to form an unbiased opinion about cops
Daniel Lewis
This but MTC isn't terrible just a little more... Boomer™ than 401
Ryan Lewis
This desu
He's literally a textbook 30 year old boomer.
Easton Brown
>The police aren't legally obligated to help you in an emergency situation, so I can't imagine the reverse is true
This... Unless the assailant meets certain conditions...
Joshua Rivera
>there are stories of officers opening fire on plain clothes officers attempting to assist.
Well tht answers that question...now moving on.
Camden Sanchez
>The police aren't legally obligated to help you in an emergency situation, so I can't imagine the reverse is true.
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This is mostly US law but it varies by all fifty goddamn states
Turns out it's a crime of sorts
Anthony Bailey
AZ cop here, you're required to render reasonable aid if commanded to do so. You can be charged if you don't, if they really wanted to charge you which they probably wouldn't. Dumb law imo and I don't think that charge has been used often in its history.
Just be wise if you're going to step in. I had an off duty officer assist me once. He just grabbed the dude's arm and said calmly "I'm off duty ____ PD, I'll help you out." I recognized immediately that he actually was because he knew the arm bar cuffing technique. Just make your intention to help clear and don't do anything dumb. Learning 2 man cuffing techniques could also help. OCCS and arm bar are the ones we use. I would say the best thing to say is just ask "officer do you want help?" They may or may not, you don't know if he's going to slam the dude when he gets squirrelly or back up quick and tase him. Just recognize that a situation with a resisting suspect could get chaotic real quick, but I've always been thankful of those who've helped out. They get some sort of gay medal later on too if they identify themselves.
Xavier Phillips
That's racist. She's Chinese too!
Carson Gutierrez
In America, the law requires you to assist a policeman whenever requested. Protect your community.
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Aaron Wood
Fuck the police, they actively work against me whenever they get the chance.
Adrian Smith
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