I had an idea. So generally speaking, every war, major and minor, has had a certain aesthetic or genre attached to it. When we think of Vietnam we think of LSD, Fortunate Son, olive drab fatigues and chopper blades whirring over the jungle. When we think of the Soviet Union doing pretty much anything we think of the Red Army Choir rumbling some powerful hymn in the background as a human wave pours over a position, be it desert or snow, while AK or nugget metal flashes in the sun. We hear the music, we taste the ethnic cuisine, we feel the uniform on our skin.
Now, what if we took these unique, iconic aesthetics, and force-matched them? How cool/goofy/humorous/epic/downright autistic would that look? What music would play? What guns would be used? How would they make the tactics work in this strange new environment? I want to come up with new ideas and see what we could make.
My go-to example when I've talked about this with friends is "Nazis in Vietnam." Forget the historical conflicts for a second and focus on the aesthetic. What if you took America out and plunked the Third Reich into the jungle instead? Maybe think of it from the Wolfenstein timeline angle. Wermacht soldiers listening to psychedelic music like Fortunate Son or The Doors, except in German(youtu.be/q3TVqZ3lO-U). WW2 German weapons being used in the moist jungle. How would it sound? What would it taste like? Would it make a badass alt-history video game or movie?
For Nazis in Vietnam you can even keep the LSD, just change it from degenerate conscripts smuggling it from home to a new experimental drug for enhancing combat effectiveness...however when it isn't held at the proper temperature the side effects can be...unexpected.
Leo Collins
Imagine being this butthurt.
Carter King
>Delta Green Doughboys You fell into a classic blunder OP, using an image more interesting than your post.
William Fisher
Be intresting to see jungle sturmgewehrs or just the STG evolution and refinement develope into the sixties. The commando scene would also be nice to see since the germans will likely have a counterpart to the allied special forces.
I'm a /his/ crossposter on your board and there's nothing you can do about it.
Lincoln Anderson
Not that user but it's common knowledge that most of you /hist/ posters have no idea what you're talking about.
Camden Wilson
>thinking that the Nazis would somehow win against the VC and NVA Is this your brain on Kruppstahl?
Oliver Evans
>no mentions of the Nazis winning anywhere >just a what would the aesthetics look like projecting much?
Christian Walker
French Foreign Legion was full of ex-Wehrmacht and they fought in Vietnam.
It's about as close as we can get without a time machine.
Hunter Jackson
I always wondered if the Confederacy survived, would it follow British trends in weapons, or would they go off on some weird redneck tangent.
Austin Young
Well... assuming that the Axis won the war, and the Japanese end up fighting the Viet Minh and somehow call in the Reich to help, then I imagine they could be fairly effective.
It's not like they would be too bothered about ROE, or bombing civilians.
Oliver Rogers
I have to imagine they'd start imitating the Wehrmacht, just because that's what everybody started doing after France got creamed in the Franco-Prussian War.
Justin Collins
I've read different alt history novels where they annexed cuba, and did a land deal to get a pacific route.
I bet they would have been cavalry to the hilt till the WW1 era.
Austin Reed
Maybe mounted infantry like the Boers in South Africa during the pre-war period.
Leo Sullivan
True, Dragoons were a big thing in the Confederate army during the Civil War. I bet tehy would have a massive hardon for armored cav and scouts.
There was a famous book written by an ex-SS guy in the Foreign Legion in Vietnam...I can't remember its name right now.
Aaron Lee
80s' Soviet military in general is something I'd woudnt mind seeing more of in fictional conflicts, that and Vietnam era Nazi commandos with G3s going against U.S. and English special forces in drug fueled jungle warfare.
>Stripes & flecktarn in jungle color palette >Worn-out stahlhelm cloth covers, swarstikers and German phrases written on them with chisel-tip markers >Black StG family rifles with synthetic furniture >WW2 MGs still >Ugly dark-gray transport vehicles >Neck towels are faded grey >Gulf of Tonkin incident confuses no one >"Warum sind wir überhaupt hier?"
Logan Cooper
>The commando scene would also be nice to see since the germans will likely have a counterpart to the allied special forces.
Brandenbergers writ large.
Colton Martinez
>crossposter
We’em don’t take kindly to your big city degenerate ways, hereabouts. Too much excitement for decent folk.
William Hernandez
While not vietnam, there where ex SS and I believe ex wehrmacht In Belgium mercenary groups in the congo in the 70s'. Those Belgium mercs were fucking badass and the classic soldier of fortune aesthetic associated with them is well romanticized. While I'm not sure what they'd mix well with i figured it was worth mentioning as I love the history behind them.
How's this one. Zulus facing an entirely Gurkha expedition. -"Why do you wear red jackets?" -"What? Fuck! They were khaki when the battle started!!" - "Forget the rifles. Unsheath Kukris!" -"2000 zulus versus 100 gurkhas? Now that's just unfair. You can tell Second Platoon they hav the day off. -"Private Kurang! You will stop taking ears as souvenirs right now! ....no, ballsacks are fine."
Ethan Lopez
60s, not 70s. Even then those former SS soldiers would be aging hard for the contracts. What we know is that there were a bunch of French mercs; former paras and FFLs. They were familiar with the climate and French was a more common language than German or English.
Jaxon Howard
thats some flashman meets the Peshawar lancers stuff there.
