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other side. ejection poor might be a little different from RIA, more like original I expect. also there's a chamber window up top.

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overall very happy with it, minus the markings, but the price was great

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SD9 is a great first weapon

>or I could get a S&W SD9VE for $50 cheaper.
for $250? Where, that is a deal

no, I just think Ruger, Smith or Colt are better choices

>I haven't held a RIA, but I don't like their smooth grips.
I'd be replacing them with these.

>ATI isn't perfect, but it's good for a poorfag: nice finish, nice grips, no failures yet.
I'll check them out, they were ranked higher then the RIA 1911 on Buds Gun Shops but I haven't seen any recommendations for them yet. Monies not really an issue, I can spend up $1000. I'm just looking for an entry level bang for your buck gun.

Yeah, I don't want to do this. I would rather buy an RIA 1911, Maverick 88 and ammunition.

I'll look into when I get up later today, thanks for the recommendation.

>SD9 is a great first weapon
I was original going to get this but I would really like a 1911 and the price is right on the RIA.

>for $250? Where, that is a deal
Ruger Security 9 is $350 at my LGS and any places I looked online and the SD9VE is $300 at academy and goes on sale for $280 a lot.

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I had one and liked it. The factory mag wore out quickly, however. With good mags it had no feeding issues. If you want it go for it.

>I had one and liked it. The factory mag wore out quickly, however. With good mags it had no feeding issues. If you want it go for it.
The magazines are the only bad thing that I have heard about it. How is the trigger, that's the one thing that kind of turned me off of the SD9VE.

Also, do I have to worry about slide bite without and extended beaver tail?

Best design ever, provided you understand its Manual of Arms and carry in Condition One.

That's absurd. Battlefield Vegas uses RIA G.I. models on their front line. Exceptional 1911s for the cost.

The last actual arsenal built 1911 slides and frames that I know of were the Imbel Springers. Filipino shit is now the industry standard and as good as a new Colt. Unless you can find an old 100% Brazilian-made Springer GI with the WW serial numbers, RIA will serve just fine and hold up as well as any other brand.

Nope. Walthers and Makarovs don't bite either if you know how to grip them.

I'm not the guy you were talking to but I also just picked up an ATI GI style 1911. I put 200 rounds through it with absolutely no issues, but that not a lot of ammo.

desu I'd recommend starting off with a 9mm. Ammo is cheaper so you can practice more for the same amount of money, and if you decide to carry it modern 9mm hollowpoints are very good. I have an SD9VE as well and it's not a bad gun at all, but just based on the dry fire I've done with a Security 9 I'd buy that instead. Although, if you have the money, a Gen 5 Glock beats both easily and glock mags can be found very cheaply.

Yes.
The boomer "IT WON 2 WORLD WARS" thing is bullshit, but the 1911 does actually have a good, solid service record and is a reliable, fun, and pretty practical choice of handgun.
You do make a sacrifice in terms of weight and capacity, though, so keep that in mind.
They're a blast to shoot, and would make a fine first handgun.

Gee, when I grow up can I be an enforcer for ZOG too?

It was good. 1911 crisp. Nothing bad to day about that. I also wore out the factory recoil spring after about 800 rounds but no big deal. Like $12 from wolf for a new one.

Just right off the bat. It feels tempting to buy cheap guns cuz of your budget. Don't. You might think there really isn't a difference between a cheap and expensive 1911 but there is. That one will have constant aggravating problems while an expensive gun from a reputable company just runs. Buy a Smith and Wesson, Kimber, Les Baer, or any other over $700 brand 1911. Make sure it has a picatinney rail because every modern gun in the current year needs a mounted light no excuses. And buy at least a mountable lock box so pavement apes can't just lift it out of your home

Well, you should be asking yourself a lot of questions about what you want out of your gun and what you're going to budget for it.

Remember that starting up can get expensive and you may well end up spending a hundred dollars more in other accessories to keep it in good working order depending on what you're doing.

Despite what the other faggots here are going to tell you it is definitely possible to have a good cheap first gun, but you're going to have to do your research, and a lot of it.

Also never buy a first gun that you can't handle IRL first.

i can't tell if this is satire or not

>there really isn't a difference between a cheap and expensive 1911 but there is
lots of fudds actually believe this. the 1911 design is all about the metal: if it's 4140, it's fine. fit and finish is almost universally going to be good, except in custom pistols where tolerances are much tighter than JMB intended (and then failures occur). if the slide wobbles a bit, it's perfect. keep the rails greased and parts lubed.

>Make sure it has a picatinney rail
this is the tell, i think. user is kidding with us.

but yeah op 45 ACP is based. if you're relatively poor though, take range costs into account. not just ammo but also entry fees. 9mm was actually JMB's first choice but the army insisted on a big bore. so it's got that going for it. and ofc get a full length barrel.

Why do Jow Forumsucks keep on pushing shut guns on new people? There is a huge difference in quality between the rock island/cimmaron/ATI fucking bullshit 1911s and a fucking Smith and Wesson 1911. Paul Harrell covered this, hickock45 covered this, my experience has time and time again seen the difference in quality between these pistols. You are like one of those faggots that keep telling people "lol but the Taurus pt-92 cuz there is no difference between that and a beretta!" When there clearly is. Even the warranty sucks. If your rock island is broken it stays broken while Smith and Wesson cover all their 1911s for a lifetime. With a warranty that follows the fucking gun

the 1911 was designed to be mass produced, stupid. it was never supposed to be a fancy or custom pistol. fuck off with your precious notions of being special or knowledgeable about firearms. go watch some more youtube, kiddo.

Theres a pretty important part most people are missing is that its a first gun. user isnt going to know enough to notice a difference in quality. So, cheap guns are fine for first guns. RIA's are good because theyre "good enough" for cheap, and user can fuck around with it until he knows what hes doing without feeling guilty about being rough with a 1.2k high end gun

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a RIA 1911 was my first gun and it's served me just fine. Just keep the damn thing clean or you will have rust much faster than you'd expect. And swap the grips out

That really depends on hand size. Unfortunately you won't know until you shoot it. For reference I'm 6' 4" and weigh 185. I have big hands but not thick. I've never had a hammer bite problem.

ATI/ Citadel/ Rock Island all have lifetime warranties on their products and they are all comparable to guns that are $200-$300 more than they run, you’re just salty and talking out of your ass, any short comings the guns have can be fixed with a few dollars in parts. The slides, frames, barrels are all rock solid, everything else is secondary really since 1911 customization market is fucking huge.

>the 1911 was never meant for mass production!
>but you should buy a mass produced 1911 made by borderline slave labor Phillipinos in Manila
>and if you realize the gun doesn't feed reliably then you have a $500 paper weight and can't get a refund cuz customer service is only in Tagolog
Yeah sure bucko. My stainless steel RIA had this problem. And to add insult to injury the "stainless steel" rusted after a few weeks of neglect on my part. Honestly OP should just buy a glock 19 unironically. It is a cycle I have had for my gun life. Buy cheap shit cuz a YouTube video gave it a good review. "Oh boy this no name Turkish semiauto shotgun is just as good as a benelli!" Then "oh darn this shotgun doesn't cycle low brass very well making it worthless for skeet shooting and customer service told me to go fuck myself." Then finally you sheepishly walk back to the gun store and finally fall for the benelli shill. Then you get the new expensive, proven, quality brand name gun and all of a sudden your technical problems disappear and you can focus on the sport and not being a kitchen gunsmith

OP, if you're a no-gunner then you should know that many indoor ranges will let you rent different kinds of handguns to try. That will give you a better idea of what they're like in the real world so you know what works for you and what doesn't.

It's a good way to go about making the decision. Keep in mind that it can take a while to get accustomed to a new handgun and gain proficiency.

Also Kimber

Do it OP. The GI model leaves some features to be desired, get the "tactical" model if you can afford it for the novak cut sights, and extended/ambi controls along with the beavertail. If you want to slowly upgrade, thats fine but the GI model doesn't have sights cut into the slide and you'll pay a smith to do it for you.

For the boomers trying to sell you on buying a more expensive 1911, thats up to you. The RIA doesn't have the greatest finish and mine had some holster wear and some casting flaws (little bits of flashing and minor errors) but no way is a $750 gun 50% better than the $500 RIA. The people complaining about the quality of the RIA never actually owned an RIA. Just touched it in a gunstore before spending $1000 on another 1911 then acting smug like they've made a better value purchase.

For every 1 bad experience about RIAs there are 100 good ones. Thats a pretty good track record.

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>no guns
stop

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>lol boomers have no experience with an RIA
>but based on my broscience I can say for a fact for every one bad experience there is a hundred good ones with RIA!
>and I did notice gaping errors in the finish and polish not acceptable in any metal work class, but ignore the other people cuz of *sips* memes.

ruger p85 and S&W SD40 are good first guns

Alright dad, go ahead and justify your $1400 kimber when it comes with casting flaws and shows stress fractures after 200 rounds. Tell me more about how you won't buy a gun made in the Philippines because its not American.

go watch a youtube video on the disassembly of a 1911, it's not as simple as a more modern semi auto

Not really, it's old and antiquated. For its size and weight, it could hold at least twice as many rounds if not more. If I wanted limited capacity, I'd carry a revolver.

Go to a fucking range with rentals and find what suits you best for your porpoises.

I have a RIA in 10mm,and it's never had as much as a hiccup with full power cartridges.

Thank god for Kimber. Fudds needed something else to argue about on lazy afternoons at the LGS.

My first .45 will be either this, a Glock 30, or a cowboy revolver

Do the SD9, was my first handgun and I absolutely love it even if it's for poorfags. Things a beast and eats everything.

Got my SD9 for $280, definitely would buy another for $250

Don't be ashamed of poorfag guns. Some of the best, most reliable and proven guns in history were poorfag guns. Some of the most unreliable pieces of shit in history were just expensive show pieces for richfags to show off to other richfags.

get a cheap used cz75 and learn how to shoot a pistol first

Tell that to the MK23. Possibly the most grueling military-tested pistol made.

I have a Glock 41 and I love it. Easy to shoot.

I think I have better advice for you: don't take advice from Jow Forums. Having read half of these comments these larping 16 year olds don't have a clue what they are talking about at all.

No, 1911s can be reliable or they can be picky with ammo and/or need plenty of oil to keep functional. A modern service type pistol would probably be a better choice as your first firearm. At this point, market competition has forced a lot of gun makers to make good products in this area, so a pistol by Glock, Beretta, S&W or any other brand that doesn't immediately require copious rationalization and damage control on this board (Taurus, Phoenix Arms, Sig Sauer, Hi-Point) will do.

If you have $500-650 budgeted, you are in good shape.

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Buy a gun and shoot it. It's fun. Don't sweat it too much. A gun is better than no gun.

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>>the 1911 was never meant for mass production!
But that's the opposite of what he said

Go to a range and rent shit. In terms of self defense and carry there are much better choices than a 1911, but they are a lot of fun to shoot and a lot of people have an easier time putting rounds on target with them. If that's what you really like shooting then its a fine choice. RIA 1911s are pretty reliable and beginner friendly from what I hear, but still, do some more research. Rent and shoot some alternatives.

That being said if you buy one you can always go back and buy the other later. the most important thing right now is cheap and readily available ammo, because you need to shoot, a lot.

Yes. It was actually my first gun, but the tactical.

Get that tactical RIA not the GI.
GI has welded sights that arent great.

>the "stainless steel" rusted after a few weeks of neglect on my part

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RIAs are solid 1911s, but GI sights suck ass and you won't be able to swap them out. 45 out of a 1911 is, IMO, the most fun handgun round to shoot but .45 is expensive for a beginner round. You can get Wolf Steel Case at Wally World for around $13-14 a box. 9mm is always gonna be cheaper to shoot, but if that's not as big a deal I say go for it, but get the tactical model instead because the sights are a lot better

for a first gun, I'd recommend a Ruger 10/22
it's inexpensive, it's fun, it's low cost to shoot
After that, it's about what role you need a gun to fill
when I know more about what your goals and needs are. the better I can help
For home defense a good full size revolver, a pump shot gun, or a carbine in a pistol caliber are good
for CCW, you should get at minimum a 9mm but there's a lot of variables for choosing the right gun for you
lastly, invest in some training
before buying any hand gun, go to a local range and try out all the different rentals you can
what one person finds to be the best gun ever many not be something that works for you

Read the fucking sticky!

>for a first gun, I'd recommend a Ruger 10/22
I fell for this meme. It's entirely unremarkable. Probably learned more on my Red Ryder BB gun than this boring thing.

I would personally recommend a bullpup Hi Point carbine

>still compact
>stock allows for better aim
>not as painful or frustrating to shoot
>can put optics on it if desired

The 1911 is more of an expert’s weapon in my opinion

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RIA's are solid first guns, but i would bump it up a little bit to their "enhanced" models with the better grips, sights and beaver tail safetys. theres a charm to the old GI look, but there just not as fun to shoot.

if you had an air gun and you learned how to use it, yes
a lot of nogunz asking for advice didn't even have that so I recommend it

stop trolling.

Sorry. I guess I was thinking about this too much from my own point of view.

Gun is fine for first gun.

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*sip*

Are they planning to make a 40 cal for it?...

Want to pick one up, but in 40 S&W.

Either gun is fine. Both work well

your first gun should be something you learn with
it should be inexpensive and the ammo should be inexpensive
I took the time to master my pistol skills and I used 80,000 rounds in 10 months
I flat wore out my pistol that I was learning with
(yes, the ammo was expensive as I had spent about $5k on .22lr)

>I flat wore out my pistol that I was learning with
What pistol were you running? Did you replace the parts on your gun or just retire it?