Im joining the airforce as an airplane mechanic

varies by branch.
for usaf be a good boy and take your tests but im not an airman.
pt scores usually factor in to a degree but again that varies...
i imagine anything aircraft mechanicy is slow to promote because it's such a big field, so is far more competitive.

>if the pay is good
you can look at it in the post you replied to, the pay is not that great if you actually have anything to offer in a professional world but if you just wanna kind of exist for 20 years it's good money.
inb4 people argue it's really good money cuz muh benefits
it isn't, not if you actually do the math. the best part is the healthcare, but it also breaks you down faster so you need it. the quality also varies a lot.

Everyone usually moves up at the same pace, having more cumulative years of experience will move you up, but not exactly quicker. Having a college degree will make you an officer on the O pay grade, which starts at $35k (O1 and O2) a year and moves up to $48k by O3. You should also know that by joining the US military you are already technically committing to 8 combined years of active and/or reserve service depending on your choice, your recruiter should have at least mentioned this.

>Are you willing to die for Zog
>as a wrenchturner never outside of the states

huh

will an associates work?

be a specialist, not a crew chief

judging by your spelling ability i hope its the latter

Usually no, Bachelors or higher. An Associates might move you up quicker in the enlisted ranks in rare occasions though. The military will move you up based on how high your education is, for example a Bachelors will always start you as an O1, a Masters or PhD can often start you as an O3 and I know someone who started as an O3 (Captain in the Army) with just a Masters degree.

SecFo here. I’m on my second enlistment. Five years in. The Air Force is not a bad shout, you’ll have your share of bullshit, but that happens with every branch.

The pay is not that good. Others have pointed that out. When you do the figures, it’s about as much as a manager at a restaurant would make. (Not a General or Assistant Manager)

The best part is muh benefits. Dental and visual insurance go a long way. If you’re married or have children, that’s some more money for you. It’s not a bad time.

If I can make Staff Sergeant (which is likely) before my eight years are up, then I’ll likely stay in for life. It works for me. If not, then I’ll take my chances at civilian law enforcement or security in some capacity. Have a plan after. Don’t just fly by the seat of your pants.

Put a lot of thought into it. Sit down and really think it through. Good luck.

It will not. This summary is also leaving out BAH which can be a considerable amount. In Hawaii my BAH was higher than my base pay.

regarding the 8 years for your initial contract.
It's whatever you signed up for as active, and the remainder is inactive.
So the usual is 4 years active and 4 years inactive reserve.

Inactive reserve has zero commitment, but you exist in a pool of bodies who can be recalled into service until that 8 years is up, basically. It doesn't really happen and there's no info I can find on anyone being punished for just going UA after their time active, but it IS a thing.

My recruiter told me "yeah you did 8 years technically but only the active time matters" and he's essentially right. Unless we go to war, it is irrelevant, but it is good to know what you're getting into.

>If I can make Staff Sergeant (which is likely) before my eight years are up
>if i an make e5 in 8 years
holy shit this should be a sign for everyone else to never even consider secfo.

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>relying on BAH to determine how much you make
You can alternatively get stationed somewhere super shit with BAH at less than $1k and make fuck all really. Never rely on BAH for your accounting, just consider it a nice bonus.

Lmao go back to licking windows, kid. Joining the military in a technical field and then getting out and going to school is one of the smartest moves you can possibly make in the US today. Learn the differences between career fields, mouth-breather.

What should you know? Well you should start reading about your career field before signing up for it, and learn how to write.
Maintainers work long hours doing very detail-oriented work that includes strict adherence to technical guidance. They’re some of the hardest-working and crustiest people in the entire military They’re also the most numerous AFSC in the AF.
Figure out what aspect of the aircraft you want to work on (sheet metal, LO, Propulsions, flightline) and what the skills you can learn will be.
Oh, and learn how to write fluently. It’s a rare enough skill that it’ll help you stand out.

Pay will be in line with your rank. It’s not great but you’ll be living in a dorm and going to a chow hall anyway so it’s not like you have too many expenses.

Don’t suck.

t. Works in aircraft MX

>Oh, and learn how to write fluently. It’s a rare enough skill that it’ll help you stand out.
it's frightening how applicable this is in life but holy shit the military somehow finds some of the most illiterate folks

You seem like an irrationally angry welfare leech.

I was an Air Force aircraft mechanic for six years and hated every year of it. Dont be an idiot and pick that AFSC, go admin or medical. Or at the least something that has a bonus every year which maintenance does not. Trust me when i tell you do not pick maintenance .

he won't believe you. it's like infantry and every other mos where it's just shitty most of the time.
he seems set on "making big bux" when he gets out as an aircraft mechanic. enlighten him and that may dispel his current ambitions on this path.

You're working for a company that will never go out of business. That counts for a lot, especially nowadays.

>especially nowadays
the economy is doing great and unemployment is pretty fucking low. what do you mean "nowadays"?

>17k a year

lmao that’s basically slave labour

>that has a bonus every year
the military gets bonus's?

you get a housing allowance also which is not taxed. i think there's a food allowance or some shit too.

The housing allowance isn't for a few years in the air force normally. BTW everyone basically all airmen will get BaH eventually. Fucking insane

Also you don't get both bas and bah. Bas is only as needed depending on your duties

>that pay rate...
Christ, I didn’t realize it was that shitty. I get that they don’t have to pay for much, but still that’s fucking fast food job pay.

I got a 15k sign on bonus as a reservist.

OP, The trick to aircraft maintenance is to do an active contract to see if you like it. Then switch to reserves and finish out your career. Then do something that makes you more money while retaining the benefits of being in the military. There's also ART jobs which make considerably more money and have better opportunities.

lol have fun nerd. Mx blows.

Promotion out of E1 is in 6 months, usually matching up with the end of training. E3 is where most people find themselves at their first base, either because of College or a 6 year contract. I made E3 pay, plus 1950 for BAH (Denver), plus BAS (360 across the board). BAH and BAS are untaxed. E4 is an automatic promotion at 36 months at the latest. E5 just had a 51% promotion rate across the AF. The money is fucking NUTS when you consider people join at 17.

DONT FUCKING DO IT IVE GOT 10 YEARS IN AS A CREW CHIEF IN THE USAF CHANGE JOBS TALK TO YOUR RECRUITER YOU MADE A HUGE MISTAKE

BE A LOAD MASTER OR MEDICAL YOU FUCKED UP IM TRYING TO HELP

Staff is E6 in the air force.

No it isn't. Staff is E6 in army and marines.

SECOND THIS,BE A FUCKING LOADMASTER. currently one now and its a great time. We love our crew chiefs to death and they have an important job, but at the end of the day... you guys still get treated like shit by your leadership, and are treated like second fiddle to so many others. BE SOMETHING ELSE

yeah thats the idea. ontop of that i will invest my savings in an index fund.

Being a maintainer sucks fucking ass, prepare to hate your life

Should have been a nonner

If you take benefits into account it's definitely better. At first you'll live on base and be put on meal card unless you're married, after that you'll receive BAH and BAS, and you also never have to worry about paying anything for healthcare, no premiums, no deductibles.

Nope you get both as long as you're not on the DFAC meal card, which is anyone not on days or not in the dorms.

Better hope you're weapons, OP. Best job on the flightline, as if that means anything.

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Listen to this guy. You'll spend 4 years hating your life. Then you'll make staff and go to ALS. There you'll find out how cake the rest of the AF is and kick yourself for not picking anything else. Also you can kiss the prospects of cross training goodbye because almost all MX AFSCs are undermanned.

heh
FPBP

whats the best job for marketable skills? i want this to be my replacement for university since i fucked up tremendously in school

OP, don't listen to him
If you have a BA,BS, or BE you qualify for officer candidacy school, you are still not really promised a commission (but if you apply for OCS chances are you will pass and be given one)
They will not give you a comission with an associates, but you probably can haggle with your recruiter for a higher enlistment rank, E2 or maybe E3

i cant get a degree see

yep, this guys got it straight right here.

most aircraft maintenance works out side through all shifts, i barely checked my email untill i was a staff sergeant.

12 hour shifts. 7pm through 7am.

if theres a blizzard youre standing in it .

if its pouring rain youre standing in it.

maintenance is cool because its like the last bastion of actual men in the airforce, but its not worth the comradere.

be fucking smart, get a nonner job (non essential) such as medical or finance, or intelligence (thats what i would choose).

Maintenance is a dead end career with zero prospects and shitty leadership that will leave you to rot on the flightline untill youre a staff sergeant and are lucky enough to get a special duty.

Associates degree will get you E-3 upon graduation from BMT. Signing for 6 years will get you E-3 upon completion of tech school, with your date of rank backdated, but not backpaid to your date of graduation from BMT.

intelligence, you can go almost any federal job afterwards.

>fucked up in school
lmao, go to a county school, doing that right now and im transferring to a state school after this semester
>marketable skills
not in the military, but if you want my advice go
Medical - Actually useful, and when you get out you can go the way of the nurses, which is pretty good if you are halfway smart
MP/ Security Force - Everyone memes on it, but I worked with a special agent with the Forrest service who was a AF MP, and seen plenty of cops
Or be a desk POG, idk

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what federal jobs and what will the pay be like in said jobs?
i wouldnt go if someone handed me the money to. i HATE school more than anything

OP if you're going to be a maintainer try to get to an F-35 base. It's got some headaches like any other jet but it doesn't have half a century worth of broken shit on it, so shifts are generally 8 hours (depending on your expediter) and you'll probably spend a lot of time sitting around playing spades.

good enough for some fucking retard on an anime image board you stupid fuck.

its just like everything else in life its what you make of it.

the truth of the matter is that no matter what job you get in the airforce your post military job pay will be mediocre if you dont support it with school and other special certifications such as an A&p License for aicraft maintenance.

if you work hard, you will get the expericence and education to get an amazing job after the airrforce , if youre a scum bag youll get an OK job.

Even if you get an intel job, they won't hand you a federal job out of enlistment. They'll want you to go to school, get a degree, and prove you aren't a useless POG

OP y are you a faggot

read

>wont go to school if someone pays them
>gets picky about the types of jobs they can get as a civ
mmk.
>whats the best job for marketable skills?
you're gonna get into a line of work you don't enjoy for job prospects and be miserable as fuck. basically anything has solid job prospects if you're good at it and get a good background in it on top of your basic mil experience.

how'd you fuck up in school anyway?

Thats if you are dumb enough to go active.

Go guard, go become a technician. If you have enough active time, burn your G.I. bill for BAH while getting a degree and working full time.

t. Nasty girl tech making 76k/yr plus whatever I "double dip" on and getting another 2100 in bah/no working on my law degree.

And btw we have like 2-4 turns a DAY, not shift MOTHER FUCKING DAY. I get 34.53/hr to basically do bitch work all day. Half the time I'm doing class work.

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Also half the states will waive your tuition. Mine does.

Don't do it. 9 years of depression and and functioning alcoholic here. Not to mention how hard it is to get out of mx nowadays have made me kick myself everyday. You are on the bottom with secfo. Go be intell if your asvab is high enough. Otherwise one good thing about this job is going TDY allover the world depending on your aircraft and getting to see it IF you dont work some broke dick airframe.

Loling at all these lazy faggots bitching about maintenance. If you put effort into your work and don't have aspergers you can be an FCC and push six figures with eight months tax free to get drunk in foreign countries. Unless you're in fighters I guess. They're essentially slaves.

>go guard
>to use gi bill
you'd do better just knocking out 3 years active...but yes many states have benefits for those in the guard, like free school.

>getting a degree while working full time
>law degree
pardon me for doubting this is from any reputable school. not that i know much about getting a degree in law, but it's not known for being lax on time. most degrees worth getting aren't.

This thread belongs here

i do have aspergers

get fucked because that /meg/ was made after this so deal with it you fucking faggot.

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thanks for fixing my planes bro, just remember that I'll be making retarded TDY money and you'll work weekends

>Staff is E6
>What happened to Tech

btw made Staff/E5 before my six years were up, then got out in a different job than SecFo.

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You want an engine failure? Because thats how you get an engine failure.

You want to go to leavenworth for the rest of your life? Or execution?
Damn neverserves

testicles have been in every O2 mask you've ever used.

>implying they will ever find out

>implying I'm some greytail pleb that uses O2 more than once a year
Lmao

Air mech sounds better than it is, most of the time you do nothing. Also, it is a joke, if you do get in, see if you can do NDI as quickly as you can.

>letting anyone within mortar range of a modern us airfield
just lol

How do you prevent that tho. A 120mm mortar has around 8 km range and can be stuffed into any civilian car and go unnoticed.

They set it up in a hidden position, let of a few rounds and then fuck off.

>doesn't follow rules well
I'm sure the military is just the place for you.

>rules
Meg has no special rules assigned to it that make it the only place for military enlistment stuff. This was made when there wasn't one. Deal with it.
You're like a fucking jrotc cadet

What kind of mechanic OP? Engines, hydro, E&E, COM/NAV, GAC, crew chief, weapons?

There's lots of maintenance AFSCs. Most are pretty cool. Except crew chiefs. Fuck crew chiefs.

t. engine mechanic

lmao guardsmen and reserves are scum bag degenerates.
.

reserves are for welfare monkeys

you must be 18+ to post here

return from whence you came

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ARTs dont make more money. I'd kill to be making active duty E6 pay.

The fuck do you do that you aren't making good money. ARTs in my field make 28$ an hour to START.

And you dont get BAH or BAS and you pay for you own fucking insurance. Take home after taxes and benefits is less than an E5. Go suck a dick.

And this is why they are winning.

You didn't answer my question. What AFSC is your ART job. Most guys in my AFSC are making 32-35$ an hour as technicians and the supervisors are 40+ ez.

T2A571

No wonder you make fuck all. You're not in a specialty field. Thats on you bub.

Are you retarded?

what shred bitch