Does Ruger actually produce anything exceptional? Everything they make is just "good enough"

I've already walked away from Ruger, and I shan't be going back.

>S&W muh forged fags inbound with their .06 cylinder gap "Fine revolvers"

They won't miss you.

Their security six series and its children are known to be indestructible (sp101 and gp100)

>cast receivers
Why is this perceived as bad. Is there a company that makes cartridges that only s&w revolvers can hold up to.

pcc mods are gonna be bigger than 10/22

Almost all of the bigger American manufacturers like Sig, Remington, Colt, etc. are absolute shit now, which is why they support import bans on superior foreign firearms. Ruger supported the AWB back in the 90's so people would be forced to buy their shitty Mini-14s instead of ARs. American firearms are becoming just as terrible as American automobiles.

>Exceptional .22LR rifles, handguns, and revolvers
>Exceptional revolvers that can handle heavy loads with ease
>Exceptional 180 on gun rights when ole Bill kicked the bucket
>Exceptional Customer Service
>Good Centerfire Rifles and Handguns
>Good Keltecs with QC
>Meh O/U shotguns

Ruger is ironically one of the best all-around firearms manufacturers.

that "ruger only" thing tchnically isnt ruger only, there are plenty of rugged single actions out there

No they aren't. They're known to be mediocre entry level revolvers. Redhawks and Blackhawks are the sturdy ones.

They stand by their products. Fixed up my lemon at no charge and no return shipping. Of course they also made my lemon.

american cars have always been shit user

>Ruger and nu-S&W are the only revolvers that exist guys!

um, try again honey :)

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They're the only ones that matter as far as the US commercial market is concerned.

No but theres no company that makes such a thing for Ruger either.

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Same as glocks then. They're cheap and common, not good.

Thanks for proving my point.

Your right, see Lol Taurus is on the list.

I just shot a 2" group at 500y with my RPR this weekend so that's pretty good.

more like poorfags and "murrica" only boomers

>Taurus
hue

>great starter 1911
$900

S&W revolvers have been used worldwide though, and are known for their quality.

So a scaled-down version of a jury-rigged WWII-era design manufactured to commercial standards?

Post Bill, Ruger is doing it right. Affordable ar’s, revolvers, bolt guns that also perform great. Their poly guns need a ton of work though.

Well yeah, most people can't afford luxury brands like DW, Manurhin and Korth.

Colt is only just getting back into the game, and brands like Charter Arms and Taurus should never be considered

bruh, its a 1911, you could pay $5000, it will still act like a 1911 and FTE every other magazine

Get out of the cabelas, they can be found around $650

they should just worked on making the P-series less shitty and make that

I only consider their revolvers good.

>Affordable ar’s
An M&P Sport II is cheaper, and also much better

RPR is an awesome precision rifle.

Well they are the go-to when it comes to either a .22LR pistol or rifle after all.

The LCP is the best selling pistol on the market year over year.

Their revolvers compete with S&W's pricier alternatives.

Their bolt actions, from the American line to the 77s, are solid for the price.

The RPR is supposedly an amazing rifle, way above the quality for the price it is.

Their ARs are cheap and of good quality as well, they even make a piston AR if that's your thing.

They even make good 1911s if you want and at a better price than the favorite under $1k: Springfield Armory (but fuck those guys).

Yeah, the Mini-14 is overpriced, but it's got a huge following, and for a long time it was a "friendlier" alternative to an AR when ARs weren't so prevalent. Plus, believe it or not, they were cheaper for 30+ years than an AR of equal quality. And quite frankly, they're fun as hell to shoot anyway.

Yeah, their Red Label OU was an abysmal failure... twice.

Yeah, they've never really had an original, full size, semi-auto pistol that can really compete with the big guys (Sig, Glock, S&W, Beretta, etc.) but apparently do well enough that they're everywhere and they're always dirt cheap. It does seem like the Security 9 might finally be a winner though, but honestly the SR series was never that bad, just had a silly takedown procedure and the controls were not very ergo.

They also make a lot of stuff in the US and have de facto lifetime warranties on their products and a reputation for being reliable

>inb4 recalls
They've had them, and they quickly make good on them.

>inb4 sellout Bill Ruger
It was 25 years ago, get over it, the company has more than made up for it, they continue to make up for it and Bill Ruger is long since passed anyway.

I personally like Ruger, they're just a solid, American firearms company. I wish they'd come out with a better semi-auto pistol as that's my main thing, but until then, c'est la vie.

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>not having an external extractor 1911

Literally best .22s on market faggot

Both rifles can be found at the $500 mark. Aside from the rugers odd fsb, they are almost the same. I haven’t personally fires either one so my experience stops at the spec sheet.

If you ever pay MSRP for a Ruger firearm then I have a bridge to sell you.

>Well yeah, most people can't afford luxury brands like DW, Manurhin and Korth.

Most people can definitely afford pre-lock, ideally pre-Bangor Punta S&W's, Monson DW's, and OG Colt snake guns.

If they can't then the problem is them not saving money or looking for deals. These guns all blow anything Ruger's ever made out of the water.

Except for the French who complained that S&W couldnt hold up to daily .357 practice, hence their manhurins

This, you never buy straight from the manufacturer. Hell I can find every gun I could want on gun broker for cheaper than any LGS or manufacturer, let alone the swathe of stuff from gun.deals, Jow Forumsgundeals, and armslist.

>It was 25 years ago, get over it
So was the Waco seige, but we all still hate the ATF for that.

>So was the Waco seige, but we all still hate the ATF for that.
ATF ain't done shit to make up for it and I would say it's a lot more egregious than what Mr. Ruger did.

Yeah, but I still don't have any reason to buy anything from Ruger considering there are better guns out there.

After bill ruger died, Ruger started doing everything that bill ruger didn't want them to do. 30 round mags, AR-15's and a whole swathe of pistols that bill ruger was vehemently against.

You like to pretend that affects them today when it clearly doesn't. The company has bloomed largely. Comparing it to Waco Siege doesn't mean fuck all.

Ruger AR556 has chf barrel

>dont buy from a dead guy
>dont let the dead guy get your coins

Lol yeah try Anschutz, Volquartzen, CZ, Henry, old Marlin, probably some others...

Then Ruger. They're better then mossberg and nu-Marlin I guess.

ruger literally makes the best and cheapest 22. You can get a 10/22 for as low as 150 dollars depending on the sale and regular for around 180 dollars.

IIRC ruger uses a proprietary barrel nut which kinda sucks.

untrue
Ruger made the finest cap and ball revolver ever made the Ruger Old Army. Tell me how I know you're not really into guns but vidya props

They make the most popular 22 semi but they are not a patch on sako,tikka,anschultz or cz, accuracy or their semis, no US manufacturer makes modern bolt action rifles of much interest except savage(budget accurate hunter) and barret (bmg) The ruger 10/22 is more a platform to waste money on tricking out and playing novice gunsmith lego like an AR and like an AR not a real shooters gun.That being said the 10/22 is reasonable value and made ok and owns the US semi 22 market.

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That may be true. For the guy that cant afford a colt anaconda but needs something more durable than s&w, there’s ruger.

Where do you keep getting "best"? They have shit triggers, shit quality stocks, shit barrels. I'll give you that they're cheap, but they're definitely on the low end as far as relative quality.

That's nice.

The part of the story that you never hear is two-fold. For one, Bill Ruger made 10+ round capacity magazines for their P series pistols and their Mini-14 and they were available to the public too.

Secondly, before the infamous, "No honest man needs more than ten rounds" statement congress was considering making the AWB far more strict. Ruger tried suggesting less insane laws, which was actually a 15 round limit. If it weren't for Ruger the 1994 AWB may very well have been even worse than it was before, making nearly every semi-auto illegal at the time.

So yeah, he sold out, but not how it's usually portrayed. Make of it what you will, but I feel the company has long since redeemed itself.

French used colt pythons in 357

I don't know of any prebuilt AR superior to an MPR for the same price.

>lol hey this company fucked over the entire firearms community and industry for an entire decade, but now they're making the guns they helped get banned before, so give them your money

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>does seem like the Security 9 might finally be a winner though
I love mine. Just hope the aftermarket takes off for them.

>OG Colt snake guns
>boomer-tier gun commands higher price than manurhin and korth which actually stays in time

If I wanted a cap & ball article, I would buy a real one. Their value is historical. The Old Army is pointless because they have no history. Also, funny that they're only the best at making something in a field with zero active competitors.

>No one has posted the Ruger Precision Rifle.

python is literally the most overrated gun ever made, EVER

your underage youtube expert is showing really hard

>Also, funny that they're only the best at making something in a field with zero active competitors.
user, stop, you don't know what you're talking about anymore.

See

Kalashnikov & Tula Arms armed the fucking soviets and every authoritarian commie bastard on the face of the earth and mauser armed fucking hitler but I don't hear you bitching about them. A gun does not give a shit who made it its either good or not

Or Monson DW if he wants something just as durable as a Ruger and with a better trigger and overall design.

Yes and Kalashnikov, Molot, Mauser/H&K, Walther, etc. actually make good guns. Ruger makes consumer-grade fuddshit.

The range of gun types that they produce is pretty exceptional.

What other gun company do you know that makes single action revolvers, double action revolvers, hunting rifles, safari rifles, precision long range rifles, AR-15's, alternative (to AR-15) defensive carbines, semi-auto handguns, concealed-carry handguns, .22 rifles and pistols, silencers, integrally silenced SBR's and 1911's?

Most gun companies just stick to pistols or to rifles.

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>HK
>walther
they both make 2 good guns and the rest are adulterated shite

Making a wide variety of mediocre guns isn't better than making one or two good guns.

Tikka, Bergara, Howa and Savage all make better or similar guns at a similar price. Many other brands make guns that are vastly superior, but at a higher price.

Ruger is not the best at anything.

That Raging Bull is no joke. You don't make a 454 for the commercial market if it can't hold up. Lawyers are scarier than guns.

Their only shitty guns were made to appeal to the poorfag market that typically buys Ruger products.

So what you're saying is that if a company makes guns that people like and aren't actively fucking people over, it's okay to forgive the bad shit they've done?
Huh.

Sauce? When Manhurin wanted to make a less expensive revolver for mass production they basically copied the six series guns.

If you read French you can read about it:
denez.com/tir/armes/revolvers/manurhin/

>If I wanted a cap & ball article, I would buy a real one. Their value is historical. The Old Army is pointless because they have no history. Also, funny that they're only the best at making something in a field with zero active competitors.

Yeah. No sory user. You see I have several reproductions and original colts (which I know you don't) a reproduction from e.g pietta is not the same as the original colt (in may ways) and may of their nicest guns are based on historical fantasy. They have zero historical worth BUT they are fucking fun to shoot an paperwork free in many many places, the USA, France, Poland etc. They are also quite reasonable reliable, accurate and lethal unless you are a fucking retard. The guns with historical value are not colts from the 70s, Italian repros etc but guns from the period that saw the pages of history turn an when you pick one up you are back whistling Dixie or in the young Ireland or Poland 1848 rebellions or the wild west, or the edges of the mi 19th century british empire, as you are transported when you hold a real adams, tranter etc. .Ones for shooting the other is for holding the history of the gun and civilisation in your hand.

The Ruger Old Army is the finest cap and ball ever made. It's literally perfect. This in its own right is noticeable. Its not a reproduction of anything but built to be what it is. A perfect cap an ball

I like my AR556

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I again point you at the ruger old army which if you loved guns you would already love and know.

It's good for the consumer because Ruger becomes a known quantity. People know that they will generally get a working gun. Even if they might get a lemon, the company will fix it until it works. And if the company screws up really badly, then they'll issue a formal recall. I can confidently buy a new model firearm that Ruger produces, on day one of release, because I know what I'm getting.

On the other hand, I will no longer buy a new Sig or even recommend a Sig to other people. These days, Sig is actually worse than Ruger in terms of quality and what makes it worse is that they don't stand behind their products.

>Tikka, Bergara, Howa and Savage all make better or similar guns at a similar price.
You listed nothing but bolt actions you nincompoop. Yes, I would take one of their's over a Ruger 77, but that's not to say the 77 isn't a good rifle, either.

All around Ruger has a good brand that people trust and someone may go for a Ruger bolt action over any one else for a similar price, or even cheaper at that. Why? Because they like the brand.

They have a quite well rounded selection of firearms, all of which are at best, great and at worst, decent. Only thing they're really missing are just shotguns, but their only foray into that was not well received. They rebooted the Red Label and then very quickly and quietly ended it less than two years after relaunch, supposedly it was plagued with issues (and they were heavy AF, I did check out a new production once)

>Sauce?

Honestly? Me. Used see them doing their yearly qualifications with them an believe it or not remember when they were selling them off used to the public from police station when they went to semi (which was fucking disaster at the time). Its true so if you look you will find your source for yourself. Colt Python in 357 is a good nice gun.

Remind me of when Izhmash and H&K supported gun control laws here in the US in order to fuck over the consumers and their own competition? And providing small arms to the militaries of their respective countries isn't what I would consider "fucking people over." If that's the case, we should boycott Colt, FN, Remington, Beretta, etc. since the US military has fucked over so many people too.

The 77 is ok but its not an exceptional anything it is decent value but these dys I'd buy budget savage if I was inclined that way.
tikka, sako, anschultz, cz all make more accurate guns straight out of production. I'vr heard howa are good but never use one or a
Bergara. If you said buy me a readily available consumer accurate rifle, I'm not tight on budget it would probably be a tikka

>You listed nothing but bolt actions you nincompoop.

That was in reference to the people trying to say that the RPR was the best precision rifle.

I'm not saying their guns don't work, I'm saying that for every firearm they make, someone makes something better that's available for around the same price.

>since the US military has fucked over so many people too.
Mostly the ones that needed fucking over tho in particular commies and tin pot dictators . t.Not even American.

Those have been out of production for years. I love guns, but I honestly do not take antiquated designs seriously unless they are actually contemporary. That's why I could care less about the Mini-14. I wouldn't buy a newly-produced Mosin-Nagant chambered in 5.56 either.

Difference is, ATF has continued shooting dogs while the only thing Bill Ruger is doing is feeding worms.

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Ruger Old Army best cap and ball ever. That's actually quite something

Ok but we are living in the Year of Our Lord Two-Thousand and Eighteen.

literally because its the only manufacturer bothering to