Are colt M4 lowers any better than PSA lowers?

Angry you paid $300 for a noveske lower?

sperg more plz

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I always hear this, and even regurgitated this myself. However, I can never find evidence of who the 3 manufacturers are who supply the lowers. Any ideas?

*notices forge marks*
OwO wuts dis

Forgot picture XD

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most if not all are made by cerro, splint A, and Cardinal.

There are only a few companies who make the FORGINGS. There's a whole lot more that do the final machining, finish and whatnot. It's at this stage where some companies like Anderson skimp to lower the cost. They'll do it by cutting QC, finish, not broaching the magwell and by pushing tooling too long. The whole "a lower is a lower because only 3 companies make them" isn't fully accurate.

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Colt looks way better

Those are -my- lowers in the pic, fuckface, and it's exactly how it's labeled. You'd think the ground off safety stops would be a clear indicator that it's a Colt lower, but apparently not.

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yes: Fact

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Yes, the retards in this thread don't understand the concept of finish

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ehh, while there's more companies finishing lowers, there's still not nearly as many as there are rollmarks. S&W? Ruger? Noveske? Spikes? KAC? Colt?

Not a single one is making their own lowers. Whether you're buying premium or cheap, it's the same shit.

Instead of 3 manufacturers you have like 5. LMT, CMT, LAR, Olympic, a couple more. I think DD is the only higher end brand that actually finishes their lowers in house. It still doesn't matter, you'd be better off buying an Aero and slapping whatever gucci trigger you want in it than you would wasting money on a pretty rollmark.

On what basis?

For aesthetics yeah. Function? No not really. PSA is gay as fuck though.

The basis that they're nogunz retards who can't see the gigantic casting mark, and are probably looking at the stock instead of the lower.

yes, they're actually in spec unlike poverty state armory

a lower is a lower generally speaking, but yes, they are.

>FurFagDude
opinion discarded

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>fags actually defending the shitshow that is modern Colt

You guys know they're outsourcing much of their production these days, right? It's affecting even their flagship products like the 6920.

That's not really the matter I was trying to address. Yes, after a certain point, the standard forged lowers are all pretty much the same. However, people interpret this insight as ALL forged lowers are the same, especially since the forgings only come from 4 different companies and therefore you should spend the lowest price possible for the most bargin bin special they can find. Aero is probably the best value point. Anything more expensive than an Aero, you're generally just paying more for the rollmark. But for the price difference between an Anderson and an Aero, you're actually getting better QA/QC, better finish, properly formed magwells, etc. There is actual value in getting an Aero over lower brands but some will say that there's no difference.

Battle Arms makes the highest quality lower you can buy, because even though they source the forgings from the same place they use EDM machining to make it closer to the milspec blueprint than any other on the market.

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>implying anything milspec is good
I hate the milspec meme. 90% of actual stuff the military uses either doesn't work or breaks irreparabley the first time pvt snuffy drops it.

Not him but nope. My noveske feels better. The fit and finish is far better than any other lower I've purchased. But then again I'm not a poorfag like yourself and can afford to appreciate quality.

Big question, are set screws worth it for lower and upper fitment? Just seems like another part worry about taking care of to me.

I was thinking about buying a Buying a mega gator lower but went with a spikes.

You're aware you're basically arguing that the trim package on YOUR Honda Civic is better than the standard and you've got an aftermarket filter, right?

That’s a beautiful M4 on the bottom. I think I’ll make mine just like it.

Btw what optic?

>fit and finish
>on a lower
user, pls

>Not a single one is making their own lowers. Whether you're buying premium or cheap, it's the same shit.
Yea I'm going to need proof that any of those manufacturers are simply buying lowers and not machining from forgings.

ok, I'll get right on that, just go to every AR manufacturer in the country and ask to film their production

You goddamn retard.
carolinashootersclub.com/threads/know-your-ar-15-lower-manufacturer.102067/

Group Industries steel lowers > all

lol now that's salty

>provides a completely unsourced forum post from 2012

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>300 dollars

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This. My Anderson lower was a bitch to assemble because of all the out of spec holes and it wiggled attached to the bcm upper. My noveske upper was easy and fit like it was matched it to the upper making the gun feel like a solid creation instead of two separate pieces

This is true. Theyre rare so most wont get to see them but I wish they could

Only if they have rear shelf machined to take an auto sear.

If it ain’t colt, it’s a copy.

Colt is a copy of armalite

Anyone going to order a Serbu stripped lower?

>muh fit and finish
The absolute state of guccifags

loadoutroom.com/thearmsguide/how-to-build-an-ar-15-beginners-guide-part-one/

Are the Aero M4E1 lowers good? And who is making those? In house?

I used to think my Anderson was smart too.

Aero does make relatively cheap lowers with ambi bolt release so you don't need a b.a.d. lever. That is a nice plus. Lwrc makes a more expensive lower with ambi mag release as well as ambi bolt release.

Those are features I think aee worth extra $.

Sure, if you don't want a purple lower.

Yes
Colt uses proper 7075 forged buffer tubes.
Colt properly stakes their castle nuts
They are more or less, made in accordance with the TDP.
Superior roll mark

Why is that colt seems to file away at those stubs by the safety selector on their ARs, but keep them on their M4 carbines? It’s not a big deal to me, but it always seemed strange since other ARs seem to retain it. Pic related is the colt that was issued to me

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Is the bottom rifle an SBR or does it have an extended flash hider permanently attached? I can’t really tell

Why do people parrot this? You know you're also paying for fit and finish, right? I used to say Anderson was fine, because I blindly parroted what Jow Forums told me, then I actually bought an Anderson and regretted it. The finish is fucking horrible, and the tolerances are all whack. I had holes that were way too fucking tight, holes way too lose, finish wear through and get scratched just from setting on my shelf, and just generally a bad time compared to the 80% and aero lowers I had built on previously.

I have an Anderson lower on a Taran Ultralight clone build and there’s literally nothing wrong with it. It got hit with a hammer once because I fucked up building it but it only got a small scratch.