>Stealth
>Laser targeting pod is not built into the unit
I know that the pod is only used for lasing bombs which means under visual envelope or very near the target itself but it's very stupid of them to not just integrate it to the chassis itself. You don't see stupidity like this on superior Chinese 5G and 6G aircrafts. Why can't they just buy Chinese?
0.02¥ have been deposited to your bank account
its not shilling if buying chinese is an actual upgrade over what they have now.
Sigh.......When will F-16.net and Jow Forums/k/ already openly admit to stop being su-57 closet fags already.
the thing is a fucking meme. no engines, shitty radar and no S-ducts. the thing even looks funny. its a pancake plane.
if anyone is a fag for this shitty mig-29 in a costume, ill down an entire vodka bottle.
the J-20 would eat that knockoff flanker for breakfast.
>no engines,
Its engine will be ready at 2022 thouhg
>Shitty radar
Better than F-22 and F-35
>No S-duct
justifiable criticize, but S-duct is not that inportant.
>the thing is a fucking meme. no engines, shitty radar and no S-ducts. the thing even looks funny. its a pancake plane.
>if anyone is a fag for this shitty mig-29 in a costume, ill down an entire vodka bottle.
Jesus christ I am will to bet you spend more time hating on the SU-57 than you do loving the F-22 or F-35. Probably thats why this aircraft has more FB likes and more views on a neutral forum on key pub already overtaking the F-35 in literally just 2 months.
Contract was already signed on the expo still will rollout with modern engines, Do not know if radar was replaced even thought the SU-35 has a better detection than the F-35 anyways. No S-ducts, fan blades have composites with radar blockers. What reason would an SU-57 have to turn its back anyways.
>Better than F-22 and F-35
the F-22 and F-35 can do BVR, where as the SU-50 cannot.
>but S-duct is not that inportant
the fan blades may as well be a giant sign that says "i am here and very queer"
>Do not know if radar was replaced even thought the SU-35 has a better detection than the F-35 anyways.
it still relies on dogfights, so my guess is that that information is false.
>Why can't they just buy Chinese
unironically this. just buy the fucking J-31 if you want a good stealth aircraft for cheap. dont embarrass yourself like this.
>the F-22 and F-35 can do BVR, where as the SU-50 cannot.
No proof either. SU-35 has 20kw of radar power lets see if anything has changed with their current radar. ROFAR is not that far away.
>combat aircraft effectiveness is determined by FB likes
the USAF and lockheed have repeatedly stated that the F-35 and the F-22 can do BVR, and have done it in exercises. sukhoi have made no such statements.
>combat aircraft effectiveness is determined by FB likes
War has changed
>combat aircraft effectiveness is determined by FB likes
If that is what your mental illness suggested I was referring to that.
Russian Su-35 carry BVR missile in Syria.
yet it never fired one. curious.
BVR missiles, BVR radars....hmmmmm
le mao even china can build a targeting pod inside their aircraft
the laser would give it away
just like ricers can see cops ahead of them using radar guns just by using a 20 dollar radar detector
>Sukhoi have made no such statements
Because it is expected of modern day aircraft to perform BVR combat.
then they should say something about it. given how russia is so keen on announcing every little advancement to feel relevant.
calling it now, russia is going to buy the J-20 before the SU-57
Calling it now Japan's F-22s will have bugs and glitches on the aircraft.
The US also never fired any BVR missile in Syria.
Your point?
it has done so in exercises and simulations. which is far more than the SU-57 can claim.
>it has done so in exercises and simulations. which is far more than the SU-57 can claim.
Show us those classified reports before spouting shit please?
the exercises are very public user. if you dont know what im referring too (the ones going on for the past few years) you might have the wrong board.
Stop moving the goal post nigger.
>providing evidence is goalpost moving
i suppose this is a product of Russian education?
>The US also never fired any BVR missile in Syria.
INCORRECT. An F-18 fired an AMRAAM after missing with an AIM-9X.
>the exercises are very public user. if you dont know what im referring too (the ones going on for the past few years) you might have the wrong board.
tested EW systems in syria, israel shown photos,....still waiting user.
i suppose you dont know about the multitude of exercises done in the pacific in the past few years? or in europe?
is the russian military this inept at intelligence? no wonder theyre a Chinese vassal.
>i suppose you dont know about the multitude of exercises done in the pacific in the past few years? or in europe?
is the russian military this inept at intelligence? no wonder theyre a Chinese vassal.
Every country conducts military exercises what are you trying to say.
>Every country conducts military exercises what are you trying to say.
yet russia still refuses to publish any of theirs. its almost like they dont do any air exercises worth noting.
yet russia still refuses to publish any of theirs.
Dense muthafucka i already gave one in syria why are you saying they have refused to publish any of theirs?. I will even give one of it flying across Russia.
Don'y you have a bread line to stand in, viktor?
slavs import aesa modules from america they don't even have access to GaN modules
>Missed with close range missile, better fire my BVR missile now
That sound right.
That picture shows Russian stupidity. Why did they make 2 separate main weapons bay when they could remove the part in between them so it can use the 2 weapons bay to mount 1 Chinese air to air ballistic missile? Or even a super YJ-18 super subsonic AShM?
>hurr lets take this aircraft not designed for a role fighting ships and fuck it all up when we have two or three perfectly good aircraft designed with AShM in mind
But the chinks themselves bought russian, more precisely the data on the 1.44.
>slavs import aesa modules from america they don't even have access to GaN modules
Source?
>Its engine will be ready at 2022
When you heard they will be ready by 2016, then 2018, then 2021 and now 2022.
You wanna know how half the thread got that you are either new or browse Jow Forums very rarely?
>when they could remove the part in between them
They can't. That bulkhead is needed for a structural integrity of a frame.
>Japan gets F22s
Really?
F-22 airframe with F-35 avionic
Chinkposters need to be lined up and shot, like they actually do to Chinks, in China for criticizing the Party.
They wouldn't announce a feature that has present in both Soviet and American aircraft since at least the 70s.
It's true. Look it up.
>retard vs retard
Both of you fuck off
The best out of both worlds?
The wing spar carry though is probably right there.
>Laser targeting pod
>On an air superiority fighter
Lol, you're fucking retarded.
It’s a multirole
>Its engine will be ready at 2022 thouhg
>pak-fa will be in service by 2016!
>okay maybe by 2017
>it will DEFINETLY by in service by 2018!
>i-in 2022 e-engines will be ready blyat!!!11
just save yourself a bother
russia is too poor to develop anything other than su-27 copies
>Role Stealth air superiority fighter
>Meanwhile all they ever said were "maybe", "we expect", "likely", etc.
Amerishitfag bitch brainwashed by CNN is on the loose again.
>>Meanwhile all they ever said were "maybe", "we expect", "likely", etc.
lmao the absolute vatnik damage control
maybe you should start writing article that pak-fa will be ready MAYBE by the end of 2030
It's primarily a fighter, not a strike fighter.
There's no good reason to spend internal volume and fixed mass on air/ground in what's primarily a fighter. Completely different purpose than F-35, more similar to F-22 (still far from same job), and F-22 has no internal air/ground systems to speak of either.
About the image shown in this thread; is there a reliable source for a 101KS-0 DIRCM being installed, and being installed in ventral instead of dorsal position?
>Ami stench is confronted with facts
>Ami bitch sharts again
Lol, fucking lard drinking faggot.
Sorry, forget the dorsal question. I saw it myself. Still, any good source on the 101KS-O?
Jow Forums is shit talker central anyway. U gotta learn to ignore the shit talkers and pay attention to the few good faith posters.
>facts
oh no no no no no no no
Let's be honest. Ever since pak-fa was annoucned there was nothing but delays, cancelations and promises. So far Russians have shown nothing.
It is Standoff Strike and Counter Stealth. It is supposed to deliver land attack or anti ship payload at standoff range while in supersonic flight. They've already tested the land attack only the anti ship is still in CGI. It is also tasked to patrol the air space over a SAM umbrella and defend AWACS. So it is air superiority, just different from F-22 because it is part of an IADS.
>Lard drinker keeps drinking lard
Lol.
>In 2002, Sukhoi was selected over Mikoyan as the winner of the PAK FA competition and would lead the design of the new aircraft
>First flight 29 January 2010
>Airframe intended for serial production, first flight on 6 August 2017
>F-35 development started in 1992 with the origins of the Joint Strike Fighter program
>First flight 24 October 2000
>irst flight 15 December 2006 (F-35A)
>f-35: 305+ units build and still going up with 10 countries already having f-35 in their fleet and using them
>pak-fa: 10 prototypes built with nobody except Russians wanting it
>even Indians don't want it
lmao sure showed me vatnik
>12 years after F-35A first flight
>LIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! LIIIIIIIIEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! SU-57 MUS BE PRODUCED IN HUNDTEDS THE NEXT YEAR AFTER SERIAL PRODUCTION AIRFRAME FIRST FLIGHT! LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!11111
Lol, fucking lard drinking clown ami shitfag bitch.
>that vatnik butthurt
lmao
let's review the facts shall we
>7 years after first flight
>still only 10
>ONLY 10 prototypes
>PROTOTYPES BUILT
>no countries interested in buying it
just wow ha ha ha ha
>literally NOOOOOOOO CYKA BLYAT YOU LIYING RUSSIA STRONK!11!11
loving every laught
>Lard drinking fuckface confronted with facts
>U-ur... ur buthurt! y-yeah...
Lol, what a fucking stinky loser.
>facts
lmao so that's what vatniks call damage control
don't worry
maybe by the 2060 when the 1st world will have 6th gen fighter you will build first 5 production pak-fa hahahahahah
>Stinky lard drinking loser keeps squealing at facts
Lol, like ew, go take a shower.
>no u rusia stronk!
lol
>planned production: 2018
lmao I remeber some vatniks screaming in early 2016 that by 2017 Russia will have ENTIRE fleet of pak-fa
>Lard drinker keeps drinking lard to comfort himself at the face of facts
Lol, what a fucking sissy loser. Go wash yourself, you stink.
>facts
okay let's face the facts
>nobody wants to buy it
>ever since 2016 it was "supposed to" enter production
>still hasn't
>no production model built even tough it has been one year after it's been "finnished"
>India has pulled out of program making literlally NOBODY interested in it
>Says he wants to face facts
>Keeps squealing as he drinks even more lard
You've already faced facts here , lard drinking ami shitface fagbitch loser. You've only been refucking to wash yourself ever since. In fact, I doubt you've ever showered in your entire life.
but i told you the facts you vodka drinking ape
learn fucking english
>16 fucking years since the work started
>7 fucking years since the first prototype flew
>ONE FUCKING YEAR after it was "ready" and still NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PRODUCTION MODEL BUILT
and to top it off
>NOBODY WANTS TO FUCKING BUY IT
when f-35 was developed before it was finnished countries were lining up to fucking buy it
meanwhile nobody even gives a shit what's the status of pak fa
>NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PRODUCTION MODEL BUILT
>Airframe intended for serial production, first flight on 6 August 2017
Lard drinking imbecile ami stench, lol.
>all models built so far are prototype
vatnigger cant even read lmao
every model so far built has been prototype you ape
you can't even read your own propaganda
there isn't a single production model built you idiot
>justifiable criticize, but S-duct is not that inportant
they're one of the most important parts of the stealth aircraft sasha
without them and actuall stealth engines your "5th" gen plane is visible from miles away
>NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PRODUCTION MODEL BUILT
>Airframe intended for serial production, first flight on 6 August 2017
>Lard drinking shartnik fagstench squeals about prototypes
Lol, back-pedaling shitfaced cuntfags.
>airframe intended for serial production = production model
my english is of very good tovarish)))))))))))))
>Airframe intended for serial production is not a production model because a lard drinking shitfaced ami stench thinks it's not
>Meanwhile it is literally an airframe intended for serial production
Go wash yourself you skinly little sissy loser bitch.
If American Jets are so good, why do they not have a built in cruise missile mode?
If it’s not a prototype and is indeed a production model then why hasn’t full-rate or even initial-rate production began? What’s the hold up if it’s ready for production?
>>Airframe intended for serial production is not a production model because a lard drinking shitfaced ami stench thinks it's not
becasue it's not you fucking idiot
there's a difference between intended for production and actuall production model
intended productiom mens it's still a fucking prototype that will most likely be used as en example for production
>vatnik thinks if he will type "lard" enough times it will change the reality that pak fa still doesn't have a SINGLE production model
also
>it's first production model!
then why there wasn't any more built after it? it's been one year since august 6th 2017
more like vatniks lose their shit and think that intended for production = production model
>What’s the hold up if it’s ready for production?
russia is a poor shithole without any money lol
>why hasn’t full-rate or even initial-rate production began?
>Aircraft designation is RF-XXXXX
>On 22 August 2018, during the International Military-Technical Forum «ARMY-2018», the Russian Ministry of Defence and the JSC Sukhoi signed the first contract for delivery of two Su-57s.
>Airframe intended for serial production is not intended for serial production because a shitfaced ami stenchfag keeps drinking lard
Lol, go take a fucking shower already, you loser sissy bitch.
>two planes one year after it was "ready"
woah! you think russian airforce will have 5 pak-fas by the end of 2050?
what dont you understand about "production models"?
>Lard drinking shitface keeps drinking lard
>In 2002, Sukhoi was selected over Mikoyan as the winner of the PAK FA competition and would lead the design of the new aircraft
>First flight 29 January 2010
>Airframe intended for serial production, first flight on 6 August 2017
>F-35 development started in 1992 with the origins of the Joint Strike Fighter program
>First flight 24 October 2000
>First flight 15 December 2006 (F-35A)
>LIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! LIIIIIIIIEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! SU-57 MUS BE PRODUCED IN HUNDTEDS THE NEXT YEAR AFTER SERIAL PRODUCTION AIRFRAME FIRST FLIGHT! LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!11111
Lol, fucking lard drinking clown ami shitfag bitch.