Why didn't other armies use a larger magazine for their bolt-action rifles? Surely it's great having 10 rounds instead of 5.
Why didn't other armies use a larger magazine for their bolt-action rifles...
Nathaniel Cook
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Adam Brown
Because you then have to re-load that 10-round magazine. If you're using a charger-loading system that means you need a 10-round packet of cartridges (like a stripper clip or en-bloc) that will stay together outside the rifle. Even the Brits stuck to using 5-round chargers.
Kevin Garcia
Magazine technology wasn't up to it.
Rimmed rounds hate double stack mags so the magazine would be really long single stack and would be obstructive in prone. (It would be the length of a 20 round double stack mag)
You could say 'why not just have the mags be fully detachable' and the answer would be the same, Just look at all the problems with box magazine fed firearms of WW1- Early WW2.
Ppssibly also thought clips were fast enough, and that you didn't need more than 5-6 rounds.
Gavin Gray
So then why didn't other armies use 10 round mag's and issue 5 round stripper clips/en-bloc clips?
Aiden Ward
It takes the same amount of time to shoot five reload and shoot five as it does to shoot ten then reload ten. Not much practical benefit with a bolt action.
Carson Turner
The only advantage the 10-round magazine has is when shooting starts. Once you have to re-load it's the same time whether you load 5 into a 5rd magazine or load 5 into a 10rd magazine.
Hunter Morris
Enfield mags were double stack.
Rimmed cartridge is meaningless if the rifle and mag were properly designed.
Jaxson Sullivan
Maybe a little faster 10 rounds than with two reloads.
But so minor that there is not huge advantage.
Aaron Brown
Why did Dragunov allegedly have such a difficult time developing a reliable magazine for the SVD when the Brits had already mastered rimmed cartridges in a double stack magazine with the Lee-Enfield? Does it simply have to do with the differences in geometry between .303 and 7.62x54R?
Gabriel Johnson
Cartridges play a part too.
Certain cartridges are easier to get rimlocked with lee-enfield.
Levi Parker
it was a really big cost, and would require re-tooling factories and probably a new design
the germans in particular didnt upgrade much because the gun was already sufficient for its purpose of supporting and protecting an MG42, the main offensive punch
they would rather build more MG42s then spend more time upgrading an already perfectly fine rifle
Mason Gomez
The SVD is also an autoloader and the Lee-Enfield rifles aren't. You can have more leeway when the system isn't moving faster than most people can see.
Brody Robinson
Nice pic
Parker Evans
That's a pretty big advantage though, give the riflemen double the firepower with which to control the initial reaction to the firefight and suppression before needing to stop and reload. Which is a critical time.
Owen Garcia
Protruding magazines are more prone to damage than flush ones.
Aiden Scott
You weren't supposed to outlive 5 shots anyway.
>Ivan gets 91/30 and 1 stripper clip of 54r
>Ivan loads rifle
>Ivan runs in
>Ivan dies
>Ivan drops garbage rod on snowy ground.
Zachary Peterson
In addition to the concerns other anons have mentioned, 19th-early 20th century military strategists were concerned that enlisted men would 'waste ammo' if you gave them fast firing or high-capacity rifles. They were afraid that the infantryman would rapidly shoot all the rounds he had, fail to conserve his shots, and quickly be completely out of ammo
If his rounds were especially dear due to low-capacity or low rates of fire, it was thought the infantryman would make each shot count.
Carson King
Where can you get that?
Adam White
They gave them huge mags but only for specialized applications. I imagine they weren't very popular since they didn't return for WWII. It must be a pain loading pic related with stripper clips.
Christian Rodriguez
why not just use all box magazines?
Chase Flores
for the same reason most of these rifles had sights for 2000m volley fire
old men clinging to old doctrines
Easton Hill
Is that a dust guard like on the T38?
Aiden Ramirez
Waffenfabrik Mauser, Oberndorf am Neckar, Kingdom of Wurttemburg.
James Paris Lee pls.
Adam Taylor
Yes it is, according to the guys I stole the image from
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Owen Russell
but it's faster to shoot 10 rounds that you loaded while not in combat than to shoot 5 and then reload while in combat. If the fight is resolved in the first 10 rounds it's an advantage. I don't know if that is a worth it or not.