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It’s a holosun, so pretty ok
it's not a holosun, reps for both companies have explicitly said holosun is not the contractor for the Romeo5
it's great, as good as anything 4X the price as long as you're not a high speed low drag sheepdog jumping out of helicopters or whatever
This. The romeos recently got a military contract, although it was for rear line "troops"
Optics have gotten so good nowadays that unless you are either in Delta or remarkably unlucky, chinesium works.
I have a romeo 5. Been just fine on my 9mm pcc for about 8 months and 1,000+ rounds. I got it for $120 on Amazon.
I believe the Romeo4 got a contract with the FBI. Romeo optics aren't shit despite what some aimpoint fanbois will tell you. I'm not saying they are better or equal to aimpoint, but aimpoints aren't 4x to 6x better even though they are 4x to 6x the price.
In my opinion Aimpoint and Eotech are coasting on their reputations earned 15+ years ago. Electronics technology moves fast. When aimpoints and eotechs first came out flip phones were amazing. Now a dozen companies produce smartphones better than the first iphone. Likewise I think the difficulty in producing high quality red dots has dropped as technology advances.
Holosuns offer a lot of cool features.
>auto shut off and motion activated
>some have solar panels for nearly infinite battery life
>some can give you the option of a 65 moa ring like an eotech that can be turned on and off
In my opinion aimpoint needs to consider some of these features in their next release.
>Holosuns offer a lot of cool features.
>>auto shut off and motion activated
>>some have solar panels for nearly infinite battery life
>>some can give you the option of a 65 moa ring like an eotech that can be turned on and off
This perfectly describes my Romeo4S. Fantastic optic. If Holosun's counterpart is just as good as this one I wouldn't hesitate to buy one for another build.
Im pretty sure holosun makes the romeo lineup. They have virtually identical features for all models. The buttons and adjustment turrets are also similar.
i feel like that true about eotech. however aimpoint is innovating but holosun is stealing their shit at the same time while keeping costs low.
I’ve got one and I accidentally broke the dimmer/off button but it doesn’t matter because I just have to change the battery every few years now
I owned one. It’s just fine, auto on/off, stupid long battery life, looks gud on a gun. Glass is also very clear.
Unless you have your eyes on something higher-end, it’ll be adequate for anyone.
Yeah even if you leave it on and the battery "only" lasts like 3 years the cost is nothing. I see cr2032 4 packs for $1.99, and those are panasonics, a decent brand. $0.25 battery costs for at least 3 years of use. Thats the cost of like 1 9mm round...
I have one (Romeo5) and it's just okay. It's better than any truglo shit or the primary arms red dot, but its still nowhere near an aimpoint. The dots a bit fuzzy, and I find that maybe every 50 rounds or so, my zero drifts a bit. Other than that it works and it'll keep you in that 8 inch circle.
Panasonic batteries aren't decent. They're actually bottom-tier.
>Aimpoint is coasting on it's reputation for battery life for years and extreme durability.
>This Chink copy has cool features but not extreme battery life and durability
Did you suck retarded juice from an AIDS infested cock today?
Mid-tier $100-$200 chink optics are all rated for 50k hours on-time.
In this video a Romeo5 survives a bunch of shit, like being frozen in ice and shot point-blank with birdshot, and it holds zero:
youtu.be
So they have battery-times on-par with AimPoint, and while I don't think they're "just as good" by any means, they're catching up really fucking fast. I fully believe you'll be able to get a T1-quality chinese optic for $200 5 years from now.
Aimpoint, Trijicon, and Eotech have their reputation because they're 100% reliable. For your normal range lizard, most sights are perfectly fine, and for almost everyone else, having an extra $200 red dot in your pocket is alright. It's that 1% of people who NEED that gauranteed reliability.
They don't. Read the third post in this thread. That user is right. They are completely separate companies who make different products.
>They are completely separate companies who make different products.
>what is badge engineering
Sig doesn't make shit.
You know what I meant, shitlord. Sig optics are not Holosuns.
>Sig optics are not Holosuns.
PROVE IT.
Take 2, take them apart.
I don't give a shit what reps say.
May as well get a TRS-25 from bushnell. Just as good for a little less than half that price.
Not him but you realize that Sig and Holosun could easily buy the same parts and simply license a design right? Its the same shit as a Toyota GT86 and a Subaru BRZ.
Hell every one of your guns probably has a MIM part in it. Every company can often source the exact same parts from the same company.
>it's not a holosun, reps for both companies have explicitly said holosun is not the contractor for the Romeo5
Why would either company confirm that, that is generally how any company responds to that sort of question .
>Not him but you realize that Sig and Holosun could easily buy the same parts and simply license a design right?
they can, but not easily, and definitely not likely
>Its the same shit as a Toyota GT86 and a Subaru BRZ.
except these two are LITERALLY the same car. LITERALLY the same assembly line.
>Hell every one of your guns probably has a MIM part in it. Every company can often source the exact same parts from the same company.
It's one thing to source one part. It's another to source the MAJORITY of parts. C6 Corvette and the G8 both have an LS3. You think they're the same car?
USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN.
If Holosun makes the Romeos for Sig then why is there no Holosun equivalent to the Romeo5x?
1) why do you think the entire Romeo line is farmed out to 1 company?
2) why do you think there is no equivalent? Do you think putting an AAA battery in there is somehow hard? You think voltage regulation between a 1.5V AAA and a 3V CR2025 is so different that it warrants a completely different OPTICAL design?
3) Are you THIS stupid?
Pretty sure all of the cheapo red dots are all made in the same factory in china. Primary Arms red dots seems to be the same quality as holo sun
Because the ching chongs stole the vortex version for that one?
it's the only optic aside from aimpoint approved for use for the FBI. So pretty decent. I wanna get one to run on a Scorpion Evo.
>implying the T2 and Comp M5 haven't advanced to keep up with the market demand.
poorfags gonna poorfag
So what factory actually makes most red dots? I always see people claim they come from the same factory, but surely it has a name
I like them but something about eotechs I just like the most.
>Aimpoint, Trijicon, and Eotech have their reputation because they're 100% reliable
>Eotech
>reliable
wew lad do you have some googling to do
And yet Jow Forums will authoritatively tell you that Holosun makes those for Vortex as well. Curious.
>Holosun makes the Romeos
>Except not THAT one you idiot
lol
If it's so easy then why isn't there a Holosun variant that runs off a AAA yet? Sig has one, Vortex has one. Shit, AimPoint has one too. Almost like an optic that's rated for 50k hours from a battery that nearly every house has at least a few of lying around is a highly desirable feature in an optic...
Yet Holosun doesn't make one. Even though they make Sig's optics.
Oh right, they make Sig's optics except that one.
Bullshit, both buttons are on/off buttons, and it automatically shuts off after 120 seconds until you move it again. Also those buttons are embedded, if you broke them you had to stab both of them with a screwdriver or something.
>$200 extra
Last time I looked an aimopint was like $750
>t.I have no idea what I'm doing the post.
i have it
its worked fine for me
It's seriously shit. I'll use irons before any sig optics.
You’re fucking retarded.
>Makes special pleading argument
>calls others retarded
He's not wrong tho
>almost identical cases
>identical features
>identical battery life
>identical adjustments
>identical buttons
>identical solar panels if applicable
W..we don’t even know about holowhatever, guise I swear!!!
Maybe they have a non compete agreement with sig? A tiny bit of market differentiation for a limited time. That’s totally never been done between an OEM and a third party supplier! /sarcasm
>Pretty sure all of the cheapo red dots are all made in the same factory in china. Primary Arms red dots seems to be the same quality as holo sun
It's frustrating how people don't understand this. I'm also into quadcopter racing and gaming computers. Fanbois refuse to accept that rival brands are made in the same factory. For example there are like 30 brands of lithium batteries for quadcopters and people will debate endlessly about which is better. Nobody cares that there are only like 5 lithium battery OEM factories and multiple brands of battery contain identical cells. Only the shrink wrap is different.
Same goes for computer power supplies. Name brands like Corsair aren't OEM and just rebrand products made by a OEM, but fanbois will die before they admit their favorite brand is made by somebody else and is 90% identical to another product.
It's easy to change the casing on a product and maybe tweak one feature and sell it as a totally different product.
You can get new PROs for $350 on sale
>200$ extra
Nigger I've seen Primary Arms Prisms take the same abhorent, extreme to the very end, kind of abuse you'd only ever expect out of a discharged six month in because even he's too stupid for the Marines Grunt, as the Trijicon ACOG was engineered to handle
It's not like you can't make high quality optics on a budget either. It only comes down to quality of materials, with aluminum being as cheap as it is, and the prices of high clarity optics plummeting in recent years thanks to CNC tech becoming ever more cheaper, the only thing name brand have is their level of quality control which all government spec shit has over anything that doesn't.
That being said, if some no name hacks called Primary Arms are producing optics extremely close to the level of quality that Trijicon does, what is commanding the price?
Rollmark
It's no different than it is with ARs. A Pony AR is made from the same forgings as BCM or a Spikes, but you're charged double, triple or even quadruple the price. Same tooling and fixtures, same machines, same Milspec tolerances and testings. What do you end up paying for? Rollmark.
Same reason why mouth breathing idiots will buy Gucci or Apple products. Prestige and the perceived level of quality even though it's all chink shit with a made in America tag slapped on it.
Quality control is really the key. All companies produce lemons. Some companies care enough to catch the lemons before they get out the door. Other companies go for a cheaper MSRP, less labor devoted to catching the lemons, and just deal with the returns or warranty claims.
CNC technology is basically hobby tier with today's technology. An average joe can get a decent table top CNC mill for a few thousand bucks if he wants to. Precision aluminum milling is just standard these days. Even Chinesium can be milled to impressive tolerances these days. The issues probably come from using cutting bits too long, not the cnc equipment itself.
Mine works fine. Does the job.