Russian ammo set to be banned

>guy selling ammo tells you to buy ammo
hmmm really makes you think

I haven't bought an AK for this reason though, in combination with an absolutely horrible market and being dependent on imports.

Read his email, nobody in the world can match russia's production with it's 5 factories and meet the demand.

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>be lucky gunner
>buy the more expensive brass ammo goy, steel will wear out your gun

The Brass Jews are in control of the US ammo industry, which is why we don't produce anything steel cased.

So what I am hearing is that there may become a plethora of brass cases left over at the range instead of steel cases. This pleases the brass vulture side of me.

Russian ammo is shit. They have very lax standards.

The reason there isn't a lot of American made 7.62x39 is because we can't compete with how cheap the Russian shit is. If the Russian shit is gone, US companies will fill the void and eventually there will be enough brand competing that prices will be reasonable. What we gain is this new 7.62x39 will be up to American standards and will likely also be brass cased.

I don't see an issue with this, though it may take 5 or so years for the market to regulate itself. Also this just reminded me that Trump is a fucking liar. He didn't undo obobos executive order banning Russian guns.

>If the Russian shit is gone, US companies will fill the void and eventually there will be enough brand competing that prices will be reasonable.
no they won't, they'll just under produce and gouge, your kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

>Russian ammo is shit. They have very lax standards.
iirc Golden Bear and Brown Bear performed the best out of Rob Ski's ammo tests.

The Jew running SG ammo does something like this every year. It's usually him saying Golden Tiger is getting banned specifically, but despite him saying that 5 years in a row it's never happened and the claims have never been substantiated. It also just so happens he's one of the only importers of Golden Tiger... The guy is a fucking kike that tries to push up the prices of his junk with scare mongering. Quit spreading his FUD.

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You are right and make much sense, but if a war breaks out in the M.E. you wont need Russian ammo, youre going to need .223 cause your getting drafted!

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I've literally never had a single issue with russian ammo, across many calibers.

I have had tons of problems with US made ammo on the other hand,

Pure conjecture based on the word of mouth of a retailer. Let me know when the Treasury Dept. or whoever has an actual list of companies to be sanctioned. Fearmongering threads need to be autosaged.

lets do it

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>believing the ammo jew telling you to buy his ammo

Trump presidency doesn’t give a fuck about the UN

It sucks that SG Ammo tends to be the best place to buy S&B.
I've had more problems with US-made .45 ACP than anything, but that's probably because I've been shooting it the longest.

Oh, and I had some frangible 223 slamfire in a Saiga before lmao

Lucky Gunner themselves did a study awhile back concluding that the cost of steel case is worth it if you shoot a lot because replacement AR barrels are so cheap

>The difference in price between brass and steel cased (more specifically, copper jacketed and bimetal jacketed) ammunition means that you’ll have plenty of savings with which to buy new barrels – even if you shoot so fast that you replace them every 4,000 rounds. For this chart, brass ammunition was calculated at $130 per thousand higher than steel and replacement barrels at $250 apiece.

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Oh I forgot the link

luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/

Yeah, there's no way they're going to tool up to produce more 7.62x39 when AK sales are in decline anyway. And I'm talking about brass-cased ammo here. 5.45 prices are better than they were immediately after 7n6 got banned, but surplus 7.62x39 was already banned years ago.

popin towel heads with pay!
IM IN!

American Eagle was as good as Lapua. It's just expensive. If AE can make .223 for 25 cpr I don't see why they can't make reasonably price 7.62 in the future.

Yeah, I had to make a quick run to Academy tonight, because I'm taking two buddies to the range tomorrow. I paid about $0.35 per round for 120 rounds of Federal M193, because they said they'd pay me back. I just checked Ammoseek, and Wolf Polyformance is like $0.18 per round. I like zeroing guns to NATO ammo, but yeah.

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>If AE can make .223 for 25 cpr I don't see why they can't make reasonably price 7.62 in the future.
Because no one is going to buy guns in 7.62x39 anymore if the ammo becomes prohibitively expensive, which means the ammo producers won't bother making a ton of it.

While that’s true, his prices are often lower than the other ammo Jews as you can see on ammoseek

Yeah I'm sure the 40 years worth of 7.62x39 guns in the US will immediately be thrown in the garbage. No reason for Winchester, American Eagle, Sellier & Bellot, Igman, Romarm/Sadu, Prvi Partizan, Fiocchi, Geco, and other ammo manufacturers to step up 7.62x39 production to fill in the void of the lost market share. Yeah, it will be more expensive, but 7.62x39 will never disappear.

Are you kidding? he's never listed on ammo seeks lowest prices.

I zero all my guns with good ammo, but shoot steel case then.

Yeah, it'll never disappear, but it's going to be at least $0.10 more per round than Russian steel cased is right now after they do step up to meet demand in this hypothetical scenario where Wolf, Brown Bear, etc. get banned.

Die for israel goy

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And yet people keep buying guns in .300 memeout even though it's generally over 50 cpr for 7.62x39 performance.

People buy .300blk for sub 10 inch barrels and shooting suppressed, not shooting supers out of rifle length barrel.

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brass is usually 70-$100 more than steel. Brass here is 26-27 cpr.

To be fair, he is for some niche stuff. I wanted to buy some S&B 9x18 and 7.65 Browning a few weeks ago, and he had the best prices. He was out of S&B 7.62x25, so I held off on buying all of it.
Same, except I like factory new brass ammo for handguns, since it's usually hotter and cleaner. I would shoot new steel case ammo before factory reloaded brass ammo, though. That shit is a total crapshoot. I finally burned through all of that garbage I bought years ago when I was brand new to shooting.

This and you underestimate how much the gun community loves meme products.

>wouldn't doubt a stricter embargo on guns from Russia though.
What guns are even left?

Yeah, but this was NATO-spec ammo from a big-box retailer. I went in expecting to get raped.

they did the test in full auto in a single day, regardless, I'll throw my rifle out and buy a new one with the savings of shooting steel vs overpriced brass.

You don't want any of that soviet steelcase ammo, it will blow yer gun up thats for sure, made in the US of A I say.

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SeePeople have 300memeout in 16" more than anything. It's the most baffling thing in the firearm community. Like if you don't want to sbr it make it a pistol, but why are you using a 16" and sometimes even 18" barrel on this round with a heavy bullet and virtually no powder behind it?
>marketing

why are you replying to me by directing me to a post that already replied to me?

Glad I stocked up over the years.

>troll post # 321
yeaaaa, sure it is.

AKfags take yet another L

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t. Anderson ar with magpul furniture owner

So you're telling me I should buy all the AK and nugget ammo now while its cheap and make a killing later?

>he owns a basic bitch PSA poorfag build while I own a vintage yet functional piece of military history
>he dares talk shit about the superior rifle

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Let me guess, SKS? It’s objectively inferior to a basic bitch AR.

I need to hoard many cases of 7.62x39 before the election anyway, so meh.

>Just cripple a major nation because we don’t like their policies lmao
I’m no dirty Slav, but the absolute hateboner for the Russian economy the UN/US has is retarded.

Faggot I own an AKM

Russia is the only country that mass produces steel cased ammo on a scale that can be considered a monopoly in some calibers (7.62 soviet and 7.62x54r), and Tula ammo has a distribution center in Texas, while Wolf ammo has a distribution factory in California, Bear is straight imported, but if sanctions went through those factories would be cut off from new Russian ammo shipments to the US. *If* complete sanctions against Russian ammo was put in place there'd be surge in prices almost immediately.

The Wolf factory in CA has licensing to make its own steel cased, but I imagine under a total ban sanction, they would have to stop local production under the Russian brand as well. Other brands would have to fill the steel cased gap Russia would leave behind under sanctions. Russia also mass produces steel cased .308 win, .223, and 9mm as well, but none of those calibers are as dependent on Russian production as the 7.62x39.

Serbia, Hungary, and the US produce 7.62x39mm brass cased, but it is already 2-3 times more expensive per round than the Russian steel cased ammo shipped halfway around the world to the US. And brass case production for 7.62x39 is much lower than steel cased so even brass cased ammo prices would go up immediately following any full ban on steel cased Russian, from fags buying up all the brass cased.

Besides all of this, there has been talk of a ban on Russian ammo for over 8 months now and nothing has happened, it is likely that's all it will ever be, just talk.

>akm
>vintage
Unless your AKM is full retard, you are a fucking mongoloid

>1959 isn't vintage

imagine thinking this.

I was shooting some Tula 38 special today. The cases would frequently get stuck hard in the cylinder. I had to even pry a few out with my pocket knife. But I suppose that's a downside of all steel cased ammo anyway.

>being this much of an idiot

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Holy fuck what an actual fucking retard.

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45-70 for the win.

It really is. What are they even trying to do at this point? Russia is a shithole right now and is no longer the USSR so why give a shit for a while. China is a far greater threat at the moment yet here we are shitting all over Russia’s face and for what? A bunch of jackasses running the show that’s for sure

Tula is known shit, all other russian steel case is good I.E wolf,bear,ect

Russian ammo is fine. In the case of 7.62x39 I've yet to come across anything superior in performance.

Lots of equals or near equals, but none that will match russian prices.

>the free market will step in and save the day, guise!
how is it possible to be this naive