I was reading an old article on Viktor Belenko and the MiG-25 defection.
What would happen if a pilot operating a F-22 from Kadena Air Base, Japan one day decided after take off and topping off his fuel, just pointed his aircraft towards Wenzhou, China and gunned it in an attempt at defecting?
Could other F-22s chase him and down with A2A missiles? Would sea base launchers be able to stop him?
What would the United States do in response if he actually got it landed in China?
t. Tom Clancy
Chinese would probably just shoot it down before he got a chance to land.
cool question, I don't know, but I read a cool novel about a stolen f14 gone rogue taking on swarms of f16s, f15s and f18s with phoenix missiles
Wouldn't they try to chase the fleeing F-22?
It is useless. China has better tech already.
I bet everything about the aircraft can be remotely controlled
>no! please don't give us more stolen tech!
hmmm
It's already 25 year old tech, the US would probably let them have it.
This.
That video of the F-22 out of control and doing a belly landing that haters love to post was in like 1994. USA had flying working F-22 prototypes that long ago meaning it was designed in the 80's.
And then China and Russia act like they are competing when they get a flying 5th gen prototype in 2017.
I assume they have GPS-tracked "no-go zones" in times of peace. The plane would auto-pilot back to the base and worst case-scenario; crash purposely next to the airstrip if unlandable.
If the pilot successfully ejects, forcing the plane down, then I imagine some sort of "factory explosion" would level the region.
Thank you for posting a picture of yourself
The bigger disaster would be an F-35 defection
The F-22 doesnt offer anything new that the Chinese dont allready have or are working on and are in the late stages of said technologies. Infact, the F-22 is just an F-15 with a stealth-bodykit with some realy powerfull engines and a decent nose-mounted radar.
The F-35 on the other hand offers much more; an engine that is uniquely powerfull, much, much more sophisticated radar, vastly better stealth materials, fairly unique 1080 degree camera system and an electronic warfare system that is second to none.
Why would American ruin his life of living in the greatest country in the world, to live in China. The chinks cant be trusted at all.
I’d rather defect to North Korea and live like a king desu
You would end up in a NK gulag after a few years.
They cant be trusted either. The only people that can be trusted are allied with us.
Please. They would keep you around and give you whatever you wanted in exchange for trotting you out every couple of months to crow about how great Kimmy is
>it's an f15 with a body kit
>and also way better
unlimited sex slaves
ok, so what's the US response?
Literally who the fuck would want to live in China ?
No, they'd keep you in a prison under horrible conditions, get you addicted to meth, and then trot you out to talk about how great the Norks are and that they have a functional society that's better than South Korea and the US.
t: xian ching
The Panther will just get it's first of many air to air kills.
>What would happen
And Chinks cant even copy 20 years old Russian engines right.
Pilots from commie shitholes defect to the West because we have more freedom, more opportunity and better standard of living. Why the fuck would anyone defect to China from America? Your life would be made objectively worse in every way
we had defectors to korea
to be fair, i'm sure the chinese (or whoever) would probably shower the defector with fucking anything they wanted in an attempt to persuade more people to defect
we did the same thing when the russians actually had technology worth looking at
Hahaha you stupid motherfuckers.
Assuming the actual crash of the aircraft didn't already destroy everything, all secret mission data and software is erased, this is instantaneous and cannot fail.
There is no self destruct 'factory explosion' hahahahaha
iirc the six total defectors to North Korea were all shitbag enlisted, the highest among them a Sergeant. One even did so to get out of a court-martial for forging weekend passes. Something tells me an F-22 pilot would need something more motivating than that to defect.
IMPLESSIVE
>an engine that is uniquely powerfull
F35 can't turn, can't climb, can't run. Wow, uniquely powerful indeed.
1080 degree camera? Wow again, I thought 360 was the maximum degree both in 2D and 3D.
Besides, didn't the US complain that the chincs have stolen every bit of electronic data on the Fail-35 already?
If you have money, every place is nice
>190kN engine is not powerful
Chinks can't even create anything half as powerful.
kek
WRONG
>Chinks can't even create anything half as powerful.
Are you dumb?
so meth eh? Hell yeah.
t. florida man.
>F-135
>is operational
>WS-15
>isn't
It'll be operational by 2019 as per google.
I'm sure it will. And with advertised power output and efficiency, too!
Don't you dare saying that again. Raptor is perfection compared to the F35, which isn't bad by itself, though. At least, on the paper.
>What would happen if a pilot operating a F-22 from Kadena Air Base, Japan one day decided after take off and topping off his fuel, just pointed his aircraft towards Wenzhou, China and gunned it in an attempt at defecting?
Plane will be remotely shut down via satellite link.
I'm actually working on an engine right now, it produces 500,000 LBF of thrust and can be powered by patriotism alone, this project will be done in 2020 and I hope to fit it to a US aircraft by then
It's called the 69 CHNKS-BTFO, you can google it it's all there.
Whats also impressive is the masculine dominance of their better techknoregy
This. China is one thousand years ahead of the pig West.
Offcourse its better then the F-15 you moron but in the grand scheme of things, its nothing special anymore.
>F35 can't turn, can't climb, can't run. Wow, uniquely powerful indeed.
The F135 is capable of 22.5 tons of AB-thrust, thats 4.5 tons more then the F119, AL-41F and the WS-15. The only other engine that compares is the NK-32 which is meant for bombers, not fighters. So in this regard, it is unique.
>1080 degree camera? Wow again, I thought 360 was the maximum degree both in 2D and 3D.
XYZ axis you moron. 360 covers only one of those axis.
>Besides, didn't the US complain that the chincs have stolen every bit of electronic data on the Fail-35 already?
Source?
The Raptor is nothing special, it doesnt even have all the stuff installed that it was promised to have like the cheek mounted radars nor the IRST camera.
Sorry, didnt see your comment.
>ok, so what's the US response?
I have no idea, there are several ways to deal with such a scenario and i dont know which one the US would choose.
Oi, mangina
>What would happen if a pilot operating a F-22 from Kadena Air Base, Japan one day decided after take off and topping off his fuel, just pointed his aircraft towards Wenzhou, China and gunned it in an attempt at defecting?
His wingmate and nearby fighters would be vectored to intercept him, along with a "request" of assistance from Japan and SK.
>Could other F-22s chase him and down with A2A missiles? Would sea base launchers be able to stop him?
A2A missiles, particularly IR missiles like the Sidewinder, would be able to kill him quickly. At full military power the raptor would be kicking out a LOT of heat, and that's assuming that the defector isn't using his afterburners. The sidewinder would be able to either catch him or force him to slow down and go evasive just long enough to allow his buddy to catch up. Active radar guided missiles could work though that would be a bit iffy and would depend a lot on if the missile has an AESA seeker (AAM5-B), which is meant to give better performance against stealth aircraft.
>What would the United States do in response if he actually got it landed in China?
Probably the same thing as happened back when Viktor Belenko defected. Try the pilot in absence for treason and stuff, tighten security checks on pilots for a while, and request for the aircraft to be returned. China would probably comply, but only after buying their engineers enough time to investigate and study the aircraft. Then after around 10-15 years, China would unveil their own copy of the aircraft for export and fuckery. And a bunch of cheesy "brave Chinese spy steals American super-fighter" movies along the lines of firefox.
autopilot isn't completely autonomous flight you fucktard
Thank you from OP, this is the kind of reply I was hoping for
TONED MIDRIFF
What is that outlet right from the turbine exhaust on the picture and above the triangle sign?
That's a nice WS-15 you've got there, too bad it's not
Is it comparable in terms of weight, fuel economy, reliability?
I think that's the exhaust for the IPP, used when starting the engine.
Makes sense. Thanks.
六四事件
June 4th Incedent
You're all welcome
what novel
I thought that nozzle geometry looked familiar...
Google Hainian Island Incident to get a general idea. Although that was under king cuck. Some TLAMS might tragically go off course if a similar thing happened today.
>It's a fucking Lemon.
If I was an F22 pilot I wouldnt defect to China. The second you land you become their bitch and are basically 100% under their control.
A J20 pilot defecting to the US or Japan is far more likely.
The anus
Israel already sold all F35 data to the Chinese
You think? I wonder if they received a downgraded F35?
Probably not, they are our greatest ally.
I dont think they would sell it because it would compromise their own security.
>A J20 pilot defecting to the US or Japan is far more likely.
>far more
nope.
This kind of shit won't happen today. Kill switches everywhere.
If it has a datalink it could be dropped out of the sky.
>Kill switches everywhere.
Any proofs? Remote kill switches seem like a massive potential liability in combat more than anything else. Is there any evidence whatsoever that they exist?
>pilot turns off the power pack and battery
>alternatively pulls the breaker on all his radios and uses a hand-held GPS and radio
WHAT NOVEL. I WANT TO READ STUFF OTHER THAN PENTHOUSE LETTERS
I can't tell who you're shilling for.
Should have gone with a 1080ti camera. Or even better, waited for the 2080ti so the plane could raytrace in real time.
What was the US response when the Chinese crashed into one of our EW aircraft and forced it to land in their territory.
As shitty as America is, China is even a worse shithole.
I'd just defect to Denmark or Canada and enjoy a much higher quality of life and free healthcare.
>I confused a >40million dollar plane with my 15 year old F-150
Are you this fucking stupid?
>As shitty as America is, China is even a worse shithole.
pretty clear you never really spent anytime in either, and pretty clear you're in deep poverty.
>confusing fuses with circuit breakers
All aircraft have circuit breakers for major components so that if an electrical short occurs you don't lose literally all of your electronics. You can also disable generator on jet engines, and the batteries can be turned off so that the aircraft doesn't die when it's sitting parked for long periods of time (certain backup instruments never shut off otherwise).
Also there's no fucking switches to shut off the alternator in your truck, and if you did the engine would stop, unlike in literally any airplane.
>Denmark or Canada
I guess you've never heard of an extradition agreement...
>yahoo.com
>F-35 defect to Russia
>Russians found 966 flaws in it
>Fix it
>Return to legal owner
>wathcing that exhaust nozzle in the webm immidietely reminds me of porn.
I feel damaged
t. actual retard
Yet the F-35 is shittier than the F-22 when it comes to stealth and weapons
>Russians
>Fix flaws
Wasn't a soyuz capsule just found at the ISS where some dumbass Russian worker had accidentally drilled a hole in it, and then tried to cover it up by putting superglue in the hole and painting over it? And then the superglue plug popped out in space, causing the entire ISS to start to depressurise and a major panic to unfold?
>in development since 2006
>still nowhere near promised specs
no, they would probably ransom it back for one million dollars or 3 mig21s in mint condition
no, it was an attempted sabotage
Who would care? Russians had an F-35 back in the 80s
>OBAMMER MONKEY PISSED IN MY COMMIEBLOCK ELEVATOR!
No, it was just Russians being Russians. I love how Russians always try to claim the West is sabotaging them.
I don't how to say this. I kinda want to fuck that plane.
slut
they would laugh then shoot the 20 year old relic down
Odd, it does not even use the same lift system as the F-35...
>Following the announcement by the CIS on September 1991 that it could no longer fund development of the Yak-41M, Yakovlev entered into discussions with several foreign partners who could help fund the program. Lockheed Corporation, which was in the process of developing the X-35 for the US Joint Strike Fighter program, stepped forward, and with their assistance aircraft 48-2 was displayed at the Farnborough Airshow in September 1992. Yakovlev announced that they had reached an agreement with Lockheed for funds of $385 to $400 million for three new prototypes and an additional static test aircraft to test improvements in design and avionics. Planned modifications for the proposed Yak-41M included an increase in STOL weight to 21,500 kg (47,400 lb). One of the prototypes would have been a dual-control trainer. Though no longer flyable, both 48-2 and 48-3 were exhibited at the 1993 Moscow airshow. The partnership began in late 1991, though it was not publicly revealed by Yakovlev until 6 September 1992, and was not revealed by Lockheed until June 1994.