Loaded vs Empty chamber carry

Get a good solid holster and practice practice practice and it won't matter if the gun is loaded, you can be safe with it. Always follow the rules of gun safety.

>This is better than that
Stop with this stupid nonsensical logic. There's no reason not to have a round chambered end of story. Comparing it to anything else is not accomplishing anything but getting you one breath closer to death.

>carrying unchambered
might as well fucking leave your gun at home

One in the chamber. Unless u have a makorav PM with that cool holster that Chambers a round when u draw. It was on deadliest warrior.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=fobvYJVXqBQ

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I have enough time to chamber a round. You autists would know this if you actually trained with your gun.

How about you just keep your gun consistent at all times? Do you take the gas out of your car every night so niggers don't steal it?

You'd know that's bullshit if you ever had a fist fight.
A chambered auto loader or a fully loaded revolver is better than both in any situation.

The chances of an ND/AD are much higher and happen much more often then needing to be John Wayne and drawing your gun in under a second to fire at the bad guy.

Throw in constantly handling children taking gun and holster on and off multiple times a day and unloaded chamber becomes a lot more favorable.

Cue the active shooter. Doesn't fucking matter if you had a round in the chamber or not, you we're standing right next to him and didn't see it coming so you're dead. A lotta good your condition 0 tacticoolness did for you.

Situational awareness trumps carry condition and will buy you the time you need to make the right decisions regardless of carry condition.

Negligent discharge chances are basically 0 if you know what you're doing. This includes researching good holsters, good guns, and training. You frankly shouldn't be carrying if all you know how to do is put holes in paper.
Having kids around certainly changes things but there are solutions to that aswell. When you have kids you carry a gun to protect them so you should take it even more seriously than when you're single and childless. Carry in your pocket so that your kid can't grab your gun and draw it. Store it in quick release safe of some kind when at home. If your kid can handle your gun when you weren't letting them then you already fucked up right? Situational awareness trumps your kid being able to rack a slide right?
Maybe I get shot and don't die immediately, maybe I can hand my gun to a friend or even a stranger and I keep it as simple for them.
Let's assume that every single situation will offer enough time to let you analyze and pick the correct thing to do. Why not just have a round in the chamber so you can do that faster? What if one of your hands is damaged or even wet and slippery so you can't chamber a round. Situational awareness is important but surprises happen.

Nigger how the fuck do you think NDs happen, it ain't magic. Unless you get a fucking trash holster you should never have a fucking ND in your life.
>Have one in chamber
>Put safety on
>Gun ready a full second faster, cannot be ND'd ever
It's really not that fucking hard.

>When you can't even trust your gcode

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Flipping a safety is harder than racking a slide when fine motor skills go out the window.

He 100% had a holster that retained at the trigger guard and trigger itself. Common among less reputable companies. A good holster retains at the trigger guard but leaves an open area for the trigger so if you have a modified trigger, the holster can't interfere with it.

Mostly carry empty chamber unless I know I'm going somewhere sketchy. Then I'll rack one.

>t. 380 w/no safety iwb 4oclock

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>loaded
If you're retarded you might shoot yourself.
>unloaded
Somebody else shoots you. here, half a half a dozen or so examples.
youtube.com/channel/UCsE_m2z1NrvF2ImeNWh84mw/search?query=chamber

Carrying on an empty chamber is better than nothing, just like carrying a two shot derringer is better than nothing.

>Throw in constantly handling children
What is your toddler going to disarm you?

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Kids grab everything dude. I know you've never interacted with nor will ever have your own children but the little fuckers touch, grab, and mess with anything and everything.

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I open carry on an empty chamber sometimes.

So you're equating 1 in the pipe in a good holster to some sandnigger mexican carrying? You're a dumbass.

Drive without your seatbelt buckled, dont worry, you'll have time to buckle it in before you crash

Maybe you shouldn't be teaching children stick their hands in your pants.

>when you cant even clear your holster before shoving your riced out glawk into it
Natural selection.

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No, just no.
>number 2

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Found the source on that shit. He's brandishing a gun at a wedding and then the kids is breaking every imaginable firearm safety rule for a while before shooting him. I don't think concealed carry with one in the chamber is the problem here. This is what results from do as I say not as I do.

youtube.com/watch?v=zATVwjvpJlY

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where do you think you are?

>>Put safety on
I know you like carrying your 1911, grandpa, but most of us have moved on.

>Retard man exposes his retardation to everybody in a bid to make them more retarded.
Thanks retard faggot. I’ll just never carry again then.

My man right here.

Yeah it's obvious that the other user has never spent time near children. Them fuckers are fast. And don't give me that bullshit about watching them constantly. You would literally need to do nothing, and I mean nothing, but stare at the kid.

Shit where can I buy that holster?

Soviet GI

One in the chamber, glock19, appendix carry, all day everyday.

If you can't trust yourself to safely handle a loaded firearm then you shouldn't own firearms.

I practice my draw with a loaded firearm, 2 years several times a week, no ND/AD.

Depends on the gun for me. If it has a manual safety I'll carry chambered. If not I don't. I know it isn't tactically sound, but I really don't care.

You must carry with a loaded chamber. An empty chamber defeats the purpose of having a gun.

This. If your gun isnt loaded you aren't carrying a gun you're carrying a bullet container

I pocket carry my 938 with one in the tube, hammer down, safety on. Am I retarded?

No. Don’t be rediculous. It’s a routine. Not hard to follow and since I always observe the first rule it’s not an issue.

If a gun has no safety you should carry on empty. The single action army was only loaded with 5 shots because the hammer was resting on the primer otherwise so if you even dropped it on the floor it fires. If you have a safety you can carry loaded if you trust the safety enough

If a situation escalates to where the CCW owner is in extremely close proximity to the assailant a la George Zimmerman, a loaded chamber is an absolute necessity, otherwise there's no point in carrying. Keep dreaming that you're going to be in a active shooter scenario; most incidents occur within 10 metres and are over in split seconds.

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>no pros

It's called not shooting yourself in the leg

Hammer down like uncocked? Yea that is pretty dumb.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the status of the chamber and everything to do with your intelligence which seems to be dangerously low.

If you're too retarded to trust yourself carrying one in the chamber, just carry a revolver instead.

>It's called not shooting yourself in the leg
If you are that worried about it get something with a grip safety or traditional safety. You can deactivate a traditional safety with 1 hand a lot faster than you can rack a slide with 2 hands.

But assuming you will remember to rack the slide or deactivate the safety in a SHTF situation is naive. You could argue that training would speed up the deactivation of the safety or speed up racking the slide. But training will also enable safe carry with a loaded chamber and a striker fire trigger pull.

There is no reason not to carry with one in the chamber unless you aren't using a holster. Any other argument against it is from literal Onions's who are scared of a ND.

what about a Tokarev?

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Shouldnt be carrying that shitheap. Next.

It sure is a shame that firearm technology hasn't improved since the SAA was invented. Retard.

1 in the chamber. Most modern pistols (looking at you SIG) are impossible to fire without pulling the trigger. If you can't trust yourself to not pull the trigger on a loaded firearm when you don't want to, you should not own a firearm period.

If I was to carry mine, (norinco with safety removed) it would probably be empty, although from what I have seen. At halfcock, even if it slips, shouldn't be enough of a strike to fire. But thats starting to enter sketch territory.

I carry 6 rounds in my revolver with the hammer half-cocked. It's a SSA without a transfer bar or hammer block

What about guns that shoot themselves?

youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw

That gun needs a cage.

Why was he drawing anyway?

Empty chamber, Loaded mag.
Annoying to chamber if it the need arises but less chance of blowing your foot off.

Depends on if you feel you need to have one in the chamber. If you do carry one in the chamber if not then don't. There's no need to complicate things.

>you dont keep your car in neutral with a brick on the gas pedal, revving the engine for hours on end while its in your driveway at home?
no
>but what if there is an emergency??
well I'll just take my keys out and start the car and back out of my driveway
>HAHAHAHAHA youre gonna be dead dude. I keep my car running 24 hours a day while its in my driveway, anything happens all I have to do is put it in drive and Im gone!!!!

thats what chamber fags sound like.
there is zero difference between carrying a round chambered or not. the difference is less than a second.
now compare that with the amount of glock leg? ND's?
manslaughter? negligent homicides? how many cops and LEO's have shot themselves or others.

most glock owners shoot themselves rather than someone else at some point.
I cant get over the mental block. give me a revolver or something with a grip safety. but acting like a handgun needs to be kept ready in case terrorists take the yakatomi towers hostage is retarded.
Im not even gonna post the glock leg stats and ND stats. look into it yourself and ask yourself if its worth it.

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Why would you walk around with a firearm that's not ready to fire.

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Hot pipe, cocked and locked

Israeli carry is only valid with a gun that isn't drop safe, or, as in Israel at the time, training a bunch of dumbass conscripts with a mixture of whatever pistols they could find.

If you have the money to buy a gun and ammo in civilian context you have the time to train yourself properly. If carrying a gun is a part of your job then carry as you are commanded.

>most glock owners shoot themselves rather than someone else at some point.
[citation needed]

It's funny that you keep saying Glock. I bet you think Glocks are the only pistols made without a lever operated thumb safety. Nice try emma

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>carrying in condition J
this is the only gun safety you need

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Yes. My last car had a locking gas tank. But it got totaled At the hoggly-woggly. I looked at a locking gas cap for this one, but 8 ft of garden hose is free from my neighbors back yard. I hate Fucking thieves, especially around dinner time when everything tastes like Fucking gas.

If you're so paranoid about ND into your nads even with a proper holster that protects the trigger, then (I know I know "Muh shit springfield") get something with a grip safety.

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HAY user WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON THE FIRST RULE