22s in a firefight

Would a 22 be sufficient to stop someone in a fire fight?
With everyone harping that it's all about shot placement, is your average 1260 fps 22 enough if you're engaging a target in the ballpark of 100~ yards? If max range isn't a huge factor, can .22s smaller expansion pocket and little fragmenting be relied on to kill? Would a 2000~ fps stinger do?

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It all depends on how much ammunition you want to waste. If you happen to have a .22 minigun Im sure you'll be fine

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As much as this meme is horse shit, a 22 would have trouble getting all the way through your average 180 lb man's torso, which would spell disaster for people without reliable medical facilities.

School shooters killed dozens of people with mere .22lr pistols in Europe.
People don't seem to realize how fragile a human body truly is.

Not really tho. Only a few finns so far.

If the guy you’re fighting is also using a .22 and also fighting butt naked and also charging straight at you/not staying in cover, then sure. A .22 should do just fine.

If the enemy has plates or helmets, no, but it will cause enough damage to soft tissue. If you watch crime shows, you'll see .22 is used in murders all the time.

People here have a very hard time understanding the difference between "adequate" and "ideal". Would a .22 work in a pinch? Probably. Would it be my first choice? Or my tenth? No.

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>Owning a .22 for anything but small game hunting, target shooting or pest control = incel

It would have the same problem any non-AP loading of most cartridges would have if the enemy has body armor. A YouTuber has gotten 11.75” penetration after denim layer in a block of ballistics gel at 300yd, so against unarmored targets it will penetrate enough at 100yd. Shot placement would still be key in incapacitating a target quickly as the tumble/fragmentation/mushroom of a .22lr isn’t nearly as impressive as more traditional “man-stoppers”.

That said, human being generall don’t like getting shot or shot at. It’d take a special kind of idiot to go, “lol, it’s only .22” when they start recieving fire. You can suppress a target with .22lr and force them to take cover. The downside of using a .22lr is that a lot more things in the environment become cover instead of concealment. tl;dr : not the best choice but it’s still a deadly piece of lead.

Reminds me of one where a woman had her man friend kill a boyfriend or husband IIRC, and he did it with a 10/22 from 150 yards or so, one shot to the head, nobody ever found out until years later she started feeling remorse and started squealing.

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or for women

From a rifle length barrel, .22LR isn't actually worthless.
Hollowpoints are wasted though, too little speed, projectile isn't hard enough either, so what you want is hot ball ammo.

That said, you'd obviously be at a disadvantage, but it's better than a pointy stick.

From a pistol barrel, it can potentially be stopped by a denim jacket, yeah, but with like a 10/22, you'd get enough extra speed that it's a serious injury, couple that with super easy followup shots; if you really had to, it could cut it.

I've killed coyotes with 1 shot at 80 yards with a CCI Stinger. Walked 4 feet and then went down.

If I'm shooting something at 100 yards then I personally would want something larger, but 22lr is undoubtedly lethal. I had a 10/22 by my bed from age 13-18.

Theres a difference between dead immediatly and died a day later. A 22 cant guarantee an instant stop.

What if I do none of those things with it but simply own it because it was an heirloom?

.22LR can kill within an hour, too.

That sounds fake, I heard Finns can only be killed by silver bullets.

true however if you shoot someone you generally want them to die now instead of after theyve gravely injured you.

>if you shoot someone you generally want them to die now
not necessarily. if you injure them, then their comrades are essentially forced to help them off the battlefield. that means three people off the field instead of one. plus medical resources and expenses in the long run, an injury could cripple a battalion much more than a death would

Define sufficient.
.22lr will definitely kill, but it's going to be more reliant on perfect shot placement than stronger calibres.

>in a firefight
in a 1 on 1, its not ideal, but in a team situation you with a large capacity gun would be good as a suppressor while teammate(s) with a larger caliber (and presumably less ammunition) take value shots