Just bought a Sig M17. Will it fit standard fullsize P320 holsters etc?

>Jow Forumstard memes angry that the CEO is a Jew
Or maybe because Cohen ran Kimber into the ground, implemented the same policies at Sig that hurt Kimber, introduced a litany of products, including those marketed towards carry, with multiple problems each (P238, P938, Mosquito, MCX, and P320), and most likely got the Army MHS contract through nepotism seeing as he's ex-IDF. Oh yeah and he's a kike.

Oh and how could I forget the turd that is the P365?

What exactly is that picture showing in accordance with your anti-Sig sentiment?

Please don't tell me that you think a differently shaped end mill is indicative of quality control.

>He hasn't joined the elite Sig Legion

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Whats the issue with this gun besides the easy fix drop safe issue? I feel like glock people are democrats and the p320 is trump. Still salty about the mhs trials (election) and want to do anything possible to hurt the p320 (Trump).

Gaston Glock made donations to FPO and Jorg Haider back before Haider was assassinated in a "drunk driving accident."

>Worst possible response to the issue
>Nonexistent quality control
>Sig having issues with other pistols
>Obnoxious pandering
I'd buy a Taurus before a sig completely unironically

Would rather get an AREX, desu senpai.

Yep, nothing worth discussing. My bad.

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I asked you about the previous picture you posted, not an entirely different picture, or any further pictures you will post.

What do you see in this picture that is indicative, presumably, of poor customer service or quality control by Sig?

>He thinks this will happen with the M17 model
You're pretty damn retarded. The fixes for the civilian models were already in the M17/18.

>most likely got the Army MHS contract through nepotism seeing as he's ex-IDF. Oh yeah and he's a kike
Or, you know, it's because they delivered exactly what the Army asked for at significantly lower unit price and far better ammo and accessory licensing terms than anyone else.

But because it's a/pol/tard everything they don't like has to be "DA EBIL JOOS!"

IDK. I'd rather use a sling than a holster for an M17

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>delivered exactly what the Army asked for at significantly lower unit price and far better ammo and accessory licensing terms than anyone else.
It even ejects two cartridges with one trigger pull!

[Citation needed]

dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2017/pdf/army/2017mhs.pdf

>Both the XM17 and XM18 pistols experienced double-ejections where an unspent ball round was ejected along with a spent round. Due to the increased frequency of occurrence during Product Verifcation Test (PVT), the Army stood up a root cause analysis team to identify the cause of the double ejections in parallel with continued PVT. As of this report, this analysis is still ongoing.

>Wrong ammo they shouldn't have been using misfeeds
OH NOES!

[Citation needed]

It's new, so there won't be many holsters or other accessories for it yet. Also, it's not been around long enough to prove itself. You'd have been seeing the same threads if Jow Forums had been around back when the M9 was first issued.

Damn. Nice analogy it actually fits pretty well lol.

almonds activated

if it's a low ride holster (not one that goes all the way up the slide like a Safariland ALS/SLS holster, it should just be a 320 full size. The safety is the only thing to get in the way, and it probably doesn't.

I'm legitimately interested, can you post some background, or a link, or a reason why these are different? you've posted 2 pictures, you clearly know the background, so enlighten us instead of "oh the picture says it all, if you were wise like me you'd get it" bullshit. please.

>Modern pistol can't accept ball ammunition
How embarassing!

How much is Glock paying you again?

>A-anybody who doesn't slob on sig's chode is paid!!!1111!
Are you seriously defending Sig making a pistol that somehow has problems with simple ball ammunition, not to mention the other problems?

Yikes

No, I'm saying the "problems" are massively overblown by douchebags gleefully chugging Gaston's cock.

>tfw when i dont even own a glock

Where did I mention Glock?
We're talking about Sig here.

>All of the services have jumped on the M17 as their new service pistol
>Even the Marines
>Hurr it zucks durr

Has that feel, yeah. Sad!

>Just bought a Sig

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>Sad!
This is a pro-Hillary board, Drumpftard

Lol. You have to go back.

Dude, ball ammo is the easiest to get to feed and ALL AMMO USED IN HANDGUNS BY THE MILITARY IS BALL AMMO BECAUSE OF THE HAGUE CONVENTION.

It's more than a slight oversight.

Bad goyim, buy this marked up SIG brand SIG ammo

Elite Indian Legion

Exetershit real.

Our local fletc school bought 35 229s last year for coast guard training.

33 are currently sidelined with cracked frames

Where have we heard this before?
thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/05/foghorn/sig-sauer-nj-state-police-blame-cheap-ammo-not-us/

The length people go to defend SIG is hilarious.
>INDIAN
>MIM
>AT THE SAME TIME
>IN $750 GUNS
its hilarious
People still shit on Beretta for out of spec 9mm that was near proof loads causing 92 slides to crack 30 years ago, but when SIG releases gun after gun with severe issues, it's fine.

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It is kinda funny.

Meanwhile the beretta APX and PX4 offerings today are excellent pistols.

So's the M92. The Army should really adopt something like it.

They skipped half of the fucking testing procedure you retard.
Cold weather, desert, the 24k endurance test to set up parts packages, didn't even test the compact p320 (500 rounds out of a machine rest).

instagram.com/p/BjK4tnfgm1-/

Wait for the M17A1 in case the Army gets reports of slides flying into soldiers' eyes.

My first gun was an APX for the mag rebate. It's ugly, but it's a cute ugly.

Sell it and get a P226, preferrably a MK25 or West German Sig.

>specifically said "besides fixable drop safety issue"
>Not an argument, has to be specific
>irrelevant to p320
>irrelevent to p320

>mfw spergs sperging about issues my p320 doesn't have at all.

You realize that Glock, H&K, S&W, and Walther all use MIM parts right?

Fuck that user called it. FUCKING SIIIIGGg!! TWO ROUNDS!!! IMPEEACH!!

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>Sigfags so BTFO they resort to r/td/ memes
Lmaoing @ ur life

Made in what country though?

You neglected the most important part of the post.
>Indian
There is a distinct difference between Glock doing MIM in house in Austria and SIG farming out strikers street shitters across the globe that can't even make a reliable gun for their own national security.

dude MIM is MIM

The crankshaft and pistons in your car are MIM. People sperg out over MIM parts without actually knowing anything about it to the point they'll say stupid shit "hurr indian MIM is bad" like its somehow the determining factor. Literally the same methods and manufacture for MIM parts are imployed.

You sound really stupid when you say shit like this but don't actually know what you're saying. Literally proves you're regurgitating memes and nonsense because you have this boner for participating in a conversation and can't fucking ejamakate yourself. Go cry to who ever made your car because its probably Indian MIM but not that you can tell anyway.

You literally can't tell the difference between Indian, Chinese, Mexican, or in house Glock MIM parts.

hell fucking airplane engines and airframes are made of fucking MIM parts. Boeing regularly outsourced their manufacture to china and india and yet you don't see a single fucking bad MIM thing coming bad out of there.

Give me one reason why the military should not have gone with the Px4. It's everything the M9 is but better.

>The crankshaft and pistons in your car are MIM.
except they aren't you fucking retard, crank shafts and pistons are cast or forged. Find me one car from a major maker using MIM on cranks or pistons.
It's pretty fucking obvious when SIG indian shit mim strikers break after 300 rounds and Glock's last 100k+.

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Because the M9A3 looks better and because the Army should force VLTOR to make the Fortis and then adopt that.

Because they should've just just bought off the shelf glock 17's like any logical person would.

*slurp slurp slurp*

Are new P226s any good?

pim-international.com/metal-injection-molding/applications-for-mim-ii-the-automotive-industry/
mimwork.com/applications.html

Heres just one simple article naming a few applications for MIM parts. Hell if your turbo fan blades can withstand the pressure and heat there clearly nothing wrong. My bad on saying pistons and cranks

>It's pretty fucking obvious when SIG indian shit mim strikers break after 300 rounds and Glock's last 100k+.
And yet you couldn't tie this to MIM what so ever. You couldn't ever cite this to a molecular failure due to MIM. You could attribute it to simply SIG not making a good enough striker but you've already pointed out an application where Glock's MIM striker does last but SIG's does not, clearly not the work of the actual MIM as it is the engineering of the strikers itself.

TLDR for your low IQ stupid ass: you couldn't say "if this wasn't MIM made in india it would have lasted 9999x as long"

Do you have an actual argument against adopting a handgun that has been used for nearly 40 years by dozens of military's, hundreds of police forces and proven to last well near 100k rounds, or is the best you got some shitty memes?

>Automotive Systems - Steering Columns (actuators, ignition lock components), Sun Roofs (stop cams), Seating Mechanisms, Solenoids, Fuel Injectors
>shift lever
>rocker arm
wow convenient it's suddenly parts that undergo much less stress than crucial parts like pistons and crankshafts.
>calling me low IQ when you don't even know what major engine components are made out of

India is a culture that only cares about something looking right, not actually being functional. Some Indian firm isn't going to give a shit about QC or if the material and process was done correctly. On top of that SIG obviously doesn't give a shit either if they let stuff with severe machining marks and inconsistencies out the door. The only reason they would be using Indian sourced parts is because of cost, nothing more, if they cared about quality they wouldn't be doing business in India.

GLOCK mim works because it is made in house with proper materials with proper quality control.
Saying MIM is MIM no matter who is doing it is fucking idiotic. That's like saying casting is casting and trying to say I.O cast trunnions are as good as Ruger investment castings.

Who making the part matters way more the actual processes. I'd rather take a Ruger investment cast receiver than Indian forgings.

I am not attacking MIM as a process, the problem is SIG outsourcing vital stuff like strikers to Indian firms with out any hint of actual quality control or testing.
If it was a magazine realize or slide stop that is one thing, but if a striker breaks, that can literally cost someone their life, it's irresponsible to sell a product as a perfect carry gun, where it obviously has some severe problems and refuse to do a recall or acknowledge it.

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Still waiting, user.

old sigs and new sigs are both fine, but just different.

Old 226s (mine's a JJ) are prone to rust. New sigs "have extraction problems" on the first 1k rounds. This isn't due to an extractor style change (which fudds love to argue) but because the majority of 226 contracts are government and thus use /i HOT JUCY LOADS /i so the recoil spring is stiffer.

Sig fucks you on mags though.

TLDR buy a sig, or a cop .40 sig and a conversion barrel. throw a few thousand rounds through it.

Sauce: NHfag, we all get sigs on our 21st (poors get rugers)

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I was turned on to getting a p365 for the mag capacity to size ratio being great, but this and the striker drag/dead trigger stuff is turning me right the fuck off.
How long until Walther makes a similar 1.5 stack mag offering?

So what’s up with the 365 gangster dead trigger thing? Chicago edition?

trigger springs breaking

Oh yeah I forgot about all the rust memes.
I've been here way too long.

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It looks like SIG has been doing rolling releases and fixes. apparently newer P365's don't have dead triggers anymore and have reduced primer drag similar to other compact guns

Never, why would they reinvent the wheel when they already have all size ranges covered? Also Sig already implemented fixes for the problems you describe.

Incorrect.

The trigger springs were popping out of the frame, they were never breaking. Sig has implemented a fix, effectiveness unknown.

Well then, that’s not so bad, now is it?

>They skipped half of the fucking testing procedure you retard.

People actually believe this.

>bought an m17
Why not just a 320?

>Will it fit standard fullsize P320 holsters etc?
Yea, only external difference is a short rail on full size and external safety and the safety won't even touch depending on the holster.
Guy I bought mine from gave me a p250 holster with it and I have not bothered to buy another yet.
These holsters suck dick though, would not recommend.

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>"people" trust this with their lives

>Potmetal parts that shear from wear much faster than they should
>Abysmal finish results
>Failing quality control

Is SIG the new Kimber?

And like Trump, the P320 seems fucking retarded and then you see the results and you can't argue.

>2000+18
>still buys guns with safeties
enjoy that range/safe-queen toy, shithead.

Didn't the MHS request ask for hollow points? The US isn't signatory to the Hague convention so we have only followed it until now because we chose to. I think the Hague convention is outdated anyway. Higher lethality and reduced risk of over penetration is the right thing to do. The Hague convention was meant to counter intentionally torturous rounds.

S E E T H I N G

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