Just a reminder that this is the best AFV ever made.
Light, cheap, air lift and air drop capable, versatile. There is not a thing that it cannot do. You can outfit it with an M2 and use it as a battle taxi. Throw on a TOW and you have a capable and stealthy AT platform. Outfit it with a 20mm Vulcan with radar and you have a fantastic light SPAAG. Need a bit more firepower? It can outfitted with a turret and cannon.
Name a better tracked IFV. I dare you.
It sucked in command and conquer. The POS only carried 5 people
METAL BOXES
>The POS only carried 5 people
It makes up for capacity by being cheap as fuck.
Yeah but allies can just buy rangers for cheap instead
>tracked
>tracked
>Name a better tracked IFV. I dare you.
the M113 is an APC though not an IFV
>METAL BOXES
ALUMINUM BOXES; not bullet proof!
Fuck off Sparky.
they have .30cal resistance all over and .50 cal resistance on the front
so its pretty resistant against anything not designed specifically to destroy armor
the ACAV gets bolt on steel armor that makes it resistant to high velocity rounds at least
i think if it was fitted with better armor it could still be really good
>Gavin
Fuck off, Mike.
Having said that, I find the Italians' amphibious conversion kit neat.
Its similar, but worse in all aspects compared to the superior Pbv 302. It was also more expensive
Mogged in it's own generation.
Those things are absolute pieces of shit.
But that isn't a CV9040
>this is the best AFV ever made
>name a better IFV
Ah, ok?
What could it even do that a Sherman Kangaroo from the previous generation couldn't?
>best AFV
>tracked IFV
You are using these phrases like they are interchangeable - both are wrong. It's an APC.
FV432 is better in pretty much every way.
>FV432 is better in pretty much every way.
M113 has 38mm of armor at it thickest with a minimum of 12, while the FV has 12.7mm of armor at its maximum
the aluminum armor of the M113 is supposed to have almost as much toughness as steel, so its seems to be much better protected
For one its not made to run newer electronics and shit. It'll take quite the rework for the interior to run the cables and shit for electronics. Might as well get something newer that already integrated new electronics and shit into it.
>20mm Vulcan for AA
Just slap on a full AA missile system, not like its not done before anyway. Note that pic related sits like 3 dudes max inside.
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(Blocks your path)
Nothin personnel kid
38mm of aircraft grade alumunium from the front. Which wasn't even .50 cal proof. 12 on all sides otherwise and wasn't even 7.62x39 proof. Not to mention due to it being aluminium, it fucking sparked and smoked when hit, poisoning the occupants even when it didn't get penetrated. It also lacked NBC, smoke launchers/engine based smoke system, and any reasonable advantage over other APCs.
It was like all US equipment of the era. Poorly tested. Poorly thought out and deployed without a care for the grunts equipped with it.
It's greatest advantage was that it carried more guys than comparable AFVs while also being fairly fast at 42mph, which in 1960 was impressive, while having a massive operational range. But it's pretty much a deathtrap outside that.
>It was like all US equipment of the era. Poorly tested. Poorly thought out and deployed without a care for the grunts equipped with it.
this is really at odds with the general rating it gets by the people who rode in it and the brass
This is a fucking lie. These are fucking death boxers. My unit stopped deploying with them because they were pieces of shit. Wet only could use them in garrison. They were hugely underpowered and overall pieces of shit
and the general opinion of green paint in the Victorian era and Asbestos were great too until people realised how shit they actually were.
It is still in production by various countries with stuff added to it all the time. I'm sure in the year 40000, techpriests will bless its M2 bolters and bolt on the applique ceramite armor plates to its sides.
*breaks down in your path*
The strategic mobility of the Stryker cannot be understated.
In its bare form with none of the applique armour kits. 12.7mm of armour is enough for small arms which is the requirement. Its not a vehicle used in the front line of an attack, its to move auxiliary forces or move forces around behind the front line.
Thats super cute, its like a mini AAV.
38mm of aluminium. Not steel. It's not even properly hardened aluminium either. It's the same shit they made planes and helicopters out of so it's not really close to RHA. That's without going around the back or sides where it has less thickness in aluminium than the FV432 has in steel, meaning it's not going to be remotely resistant to some gook firing AK fire into the side or back since Russia had a boner for testing AK rounds on steel plate back in the day, hence why it was always seen as the better penetrating round to the 5.56, regardless of what testing provided, which decent AP loads penetrating 10mm of steel, which is more than the M113 had on the sides without any sort of kit.
www.congedatifolgore.com/archivi/reduci/article_2004_06_30_3459.html
When a rpg hit the M113 (VCC) of the Italian troops in Somalia a guy lost his leg and died on the spot, the sergent got debolwed but lived (and kept fighting) and another dude lost couple of fingers.
It is one of the worst day in the modern military history of Italy.
Pic related is the entry hole
I do believe that the West, especially minor nations such as Italy. Need something like an M113 but bulkier. Something turretless that can resist a .50 cal on 360° and that has a chance against an rpg in some urban warfare configurations.
Something that doesn't cost millions to produce.
>still using M113s as battle taxis
Italians deserve it desu. There's better alternatives out there and Italy can easily make them with their industry being one of the foremost. I'm sure Iveco has a replacement for it.
Plus there's no reason to have a 'turret' now. Just having a CROWS style system is enough in 90% of armoured vehicles. It's more than likely to be part of any new AFV like the T-14 has.
It was 1993, but most of the backbone of Italy (and EU) is still made by these vehicles.
Italy is producing over 600 Freccia and it is considering to build Dardo2. But those are still nothing like an M113.
The beauty of the M113 is that it can be produced en mass with a low budget.
There is a huge market and necessity, for something that doesn't cost you 5 million dollar to produce.
Also Remote controlled systems don't come for free...
that fucking autist again? lmao
I loved these in Company of Heroes.
You load a couple up with piat's and shoot n scoot every panzer you see.
ITS A FUCKING METAL BOX WHY IS IT SO BORING