Handgun General - /hg - #190

They seem highly underrated.

>universal self-loading pistol
>doesn't load itself
>doesn't use cheap $13.99 magazines used in keltec's carbines, ruger's carbine, hi point carbines, and other pistol caliber carbines

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I bought a DW Specialist 9mm on a whim. Still waiting to get it. This is what it looks like.

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People keep underestimating the USP, the universal modularuty, the trigger, the rail. especially the rail, crying
"It's a proprietary rail!" And "It's not 1913!" Totally gloss over the fact that the Glock is a one toothed fucking abortion that usually has 'Glock specific' adapters with lights and lasers. And for that matter, fuck you, that's part if the fucking advantage of the USP
U.S.P. UNIVERSAL self-loading Pistol, it's fucking modular!

>Want a slick frame gun? Cool, the integral rail is basically a recessed frame
>Want a rail? You can have that too! But not just a rail, you can have a Glock rail, 1913 rail, metal, plastic, QD, laser, compensator, competition weight, all on the same "Awful proprietary rail"
>Speaking of modular, you want options? How about NINE fucking trigger configurations?! SA/DA, SAO, DAO, pre cocked DA, left, right, ambi, even a true match target trigger that is entirety drop in and user serviceable!
>Left handed? No problem, mag release is ambi from the factory, no need to swap parts, safety lever can be set up any way you want
>Magazine well is drop in and made of steel, can be removed with a single screw
>Child safety? Cool, it's built in! Or not! You decide!
>Sight options from white dot to Italian match sights with fraction/MOA incraments, and every major night and competition sight option between
>Multiple mag release sizes, barrel lengths, threaded barrels, ported barrels, the aftermarket isn't needed, EVERYTHING HAS AN OEM REPLACEMENT
>Available in full size, compact, extended, and long slide target models
>9mm/.40/.45/.357sig(compact), and they're actually made for the calibers, not just given slightly different springs!
>On top of all of this the guns are some of the most mechanically accurate duty pistols in the world
>Service life reported in the hundreds of thousands of rounds by end users
>In a pinch you can use it to beat a man to death

So tell me, how ISN'T the USP the best handgun in the world?

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Ya

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>child safety
Wat? Does it have a key abortion sonewhere like walther?

What do you think?
S&W 13 .357 magnum for $285. I think the spring is a little weak, had a round fail to fire (light strike) in double action.

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Trust me I really want one but magazines go for $68.99 and I like to have at least a dozen mags to bounce between. That's a thousand fuckin dollars for magazines. Whereas I got 3 packs of glock, magpul, and some ats or some weird brand, and they all work 100% flawlessly, and I'm out maybe $200 so far, I only have 9 magazines so far. That's more $$$$ for ammo.

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It does if you want it to, or not, whatever, it's m.o.d.u.l.a.r.

Why must you always rotate my pictures/ k/?

They're half that, what mags do you want I'll find you a deal.

Fucking NICE, is there a screw on the front of the grip you can adjust the spring with?

>can swap safeties and literally nothing else
>modular
Pretty cringe imo.

Nice try Burt'o but I'm not falling for that
Did you ever try those $0.65 hand scooped icecream cones from Carls Jr?

recommend me new handguns in the $100-$299 range please.

Nice.

Used S&W Model 10
Used S&W 3rd gen 9mm
Used S&W M&P
A Ruger

no, theyre really only $300, their decockers break, the triggers is meh but not as shitty as other guns from the late 80s/ early 90s, they field strip weird and they dont handle +p+ and 9mm major

I'm interested in a full size 45acp. Before I went with a G21, the USP'S were 68.99 each.

Wrong on every single account?

Looks great. Get some extended mags and a nice surefire light.

Heritage rough rider

no, jackass whos never even touched a gun let alone white trash babies first pistol-tier p-89s

What did he mean by this?

cdnnsports.com/usp45-12rd-fingerest.html

tombstonetactical.com/catalog/hk/magazine-for-usp45-.45-acp-black-12-round/

grabagun.com/heckler-and-koch-magazine-usp-fs-t-45-12rd-fr.html

LEO surplus USP45s are available for around $400 right now as well.

>a single actions 6 shot revolver
its on my buy list, but not because its practical, because it looks fun.

Do you guys like old SW autos? I do

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I really really want this to be made in 5.7, and the ultra slim grip and overall width to be super sleek for carry.

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Definitely getting a SF light, because it looks pretty sharp with one. Mags are already 10 rnd, and I live in leafland, so that's all I get. :(

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Yes

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I really like mine and everyone that's shoots it had then went and got one, or says they're going to get one. One friend got the shorter barrel and regretted it. Honestly I'd look for that rare 9" model, order it if you have to. Feels great to hit small targets far away with a $150 gun and a $0.04 cent bullet. While my older brother misses the clay or bottle with his Kimber.

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The 945 is smooth.

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Indeed there is. Looks pretty far in as it sits. Think a turn or two will be enough?

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Where are the $400 surplus USPs at?

New acquisition

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Sounds good. Enjoy your gun, leaf.

Turn that bitch as far in as it will go

The usual auction accounts and surplus online FFLs

Rare. You should cajunize it for maximum sex appeal.

Been thinking about getting one of those. How do you like it?

Is it comfortable for target shooting? That's primarily what I'd want it for with CC being a secondary concern.

I really like the way Springfield Armory 1911s look and they seem nice for the price, especially the Loaded, but I hate the stainless steel barrel, looks weird in my opinion and I don't like the idea its going to wear faster than a normal barrel when I'm not shooting for accuracy. Do they make any 1911s that come with a normal barrel?

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The striker fire action was the last big breakthrough in handgun technology displacing DA/SA hammer fired actions as the action of choice, what's upcoming?

whoa the HK57

>nickel
>safety and not decocker
Wtf is this. It clearly says p01 on the slide and has a rail too. What version is this

Just did an attempt at adjusting.
From the position it was in when I got it there was only enough screw left for about a quarter turn.

Now, I might sound like an idiot, but if I tighten the screw (turn clockwise) is that increasing or decreasing the spring tension on the hammer?

See

behold

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How fucky is that ejector jesus

That probably won't change much, never know though.
Tightening increases dpring tension.

Striker fired pistols have been around since before semi automatics

Dream is CZ or Sig. Don't really know beyond that. I live in a cucked state.

what in tarnation...

Ye boi

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I love my new guns.

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it's very reliable; the only issue is that the rounds bounce back into the chamber area. Never had a FTF or a FTextract. Just failures to eject, where the bolt slams on a casing.

Contract the factory in CR had with the Thai Royal Police, had a surplus of a couple hundred and sent to CZ USA. High polished stainless frame and slide and also has Shadow 2 style flat safety. Snagged it before it got out the door.

I've fucking missed or lost seven auctions in three days for classic pistols and I'm gonna go nuts. What do you think of tgat $500 1903 I PMd you?

I need me a Stryk B

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I'll do you one better, TEC-9 in action

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P-01 is g2g, I personally prefer the look and balance of the PCR though, I bought this purely for the gucci factor. If you plan on carrying/ just shooting at the range and don't foresee needing a light, I'd go that route.

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If you really, really are dead set on the 1903 I'd say go for it. It looks in better shape than mine and only $140 more than what I paid for mine.

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Yeah, I didn't notice much difference. I just think I'll pick up a new spring at some point. And a hammer kit. The nose is super floppy. The consensus online is that it's normal, but part of me wants the old girl to be in optimal shape.

We Tech posting up in here?

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>plastic mags
>shitass lever mag releases only
>shitass double action trigger
>none of the other trigger options make it good

Everything else you mentioned glocks do better, including accuracy and durability.

Here's another one I took to the range today. Iver Johnson top-break safety hammerless in .38 s&w. There's another one at the LGS in nickle with the exposed hammer. If I hadn't won the .357 on auction I'd have bought it no questions asked.

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I'm charging you with attempted homicide, I laughed so hard I stopped breathing.
>Which, I suspect, is what killed enough of your brain cells to make you post that

Fuuuuuck, I want it, but that $140 feels like a lot.
Maybe I'll get a .32 savage for $350

I wish you could still get the PCR Pro-Tek

>Chicago

nice
the Chiraq police scanner is an endless source of entertainment

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>Y-you can buy an adapter if you want to use the rail. Glock rails are non-standard!

Ignoring the fact that glock rails ARE the standard that handgun accessories are made for, moreso than even 1913.

>Muh accuracy

USP elite (the most accurate version) has inferior mechanical accuracy to gen 5 glocks

>Muh durability! Muh 100k rounds

There have been million+ round glocks. And HK just stuffs stiffer springs in their guns so that they can say that they last longer. What they dont tell you is that this means they are unreliable for the first few hundred rounds and with lighter loads.

USP owners are shoppers, not shooters.

We discussed this on shitscord
HK needed more time to develop the gun, but it ultimately went nowhere because having AP on a handgun wasn’t necessary for where it was intended to go. 4.6x30 saw more adoption on the MP7 alone than it probably would have being paired with a handgun. Besides, AP 9mm could exist if anyone wanted to manufacture it and wasn’t held back by laws.

Handguns should be banned. The only purpose a handgun serves is to kill another person.

Is that mechanical accuracy or actual accuracy? HK is known for their barrels, Block is not

The HK also offers
>better trigger
>option for a safety
>sights that aren't shit out of the box
>longer barrel life
>better grip
>changeable trigger

what handgat do you carry?

>USP owners are shoppers, not shooters

Buy what you want but don’t make up bold faced lies and accusations just because you like a gun that isn’t as good

sometimes killing another person is the right thing to do

>USP elite (the most accurate version) has inferior mechanical accuracy to gen 5 glocks
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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What if you live somewhere dangerous and need to defend yourself against multiple assailants that may be phsycially stronger than you?

>Removing someone from existence who has feelings, a different opinion of what is right and wrong than yours, family friends and dreams is ok because since you have a gun and that makes you judge and jury on whether or not they deserve it

Nearly the entire developed world and half the US has done away with the death penalty but you think you alone should have the say in yes or no to someone’s life? You have to be a pathetic waste of a person to have that type of grand delusion

I have an expansive handgun collection but even I’m not this fucked in the head man

>t. Batman right before the Joker murders another 800 children

its not about killing just for fun
its a matter of protecting those you love & are responsible for

Forget it he's either baiting or a limp ducked cuck that'd rather die than fight to protect himself and others.

wtf i hate being able to defend myself with a gun now
he wasnt making a comment on the death penalty, nor was he saying that he alone should be the determinant of if someone should die

Mechanical accuracy IS actual accuracy. You might not personally group as well with it, but that's an operator issue.

>HK is known for their barrels. Glock is not.

Sounds like HK marketing has warped your perceptions.

>better trigger
Subjective, I think stock glock triggers are better than any USP variant except for the Light LEM V1 that I would say is comparable.
>option for a safety
True but safeties are for fags
>sights that aren't shit out of the box
Glock oem night sights meprolight, the same as HK. Unless you're talking about the non-night sights, in which case who cares they should be thrown away and replaced with night sights. Fuck HK for wasting money on sights you throw away.
>longer barrel life
Got a source for that?
>better grip
Subjective
>changeable trigger
None of them are good except for maybe light lem which you need to modify yourself to make AS good as a glock factory trigger. With the aftermarket, there's no contest.

If you can afford to shoot the tens (or hundreds) of thousands of rounds needed to wear out a 1911 barrel, you can afford the pittance needed to replace it.

I rotate. Lately I've been carrying my G43, but in the winter, I'll probably be carrying my PPQ more.

Glock build quality, materials selection, quality control, and mechanical accuracy is inferior in literally every way to a USP.

>think stock glock triggers are better than any USP variant except for the Light LEM V1 that I would say is comparable.
I'm not even going to read the rest. You're hopeless.

>it's yet another glocktard sperging out episode

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HK triggers aren't that good, dude.

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It's the truth. Who owns/shoots glocks? SOCOM, 60% of cops, a plurality of production competiton shooters.

Who owns/shoots HK?
The same as above but to a much, much smaller extent. Who is the real market for HK handguns then? Zoomers who buy what they hear is good on the internet or who want that cool gun solid snake used.

The HK cock suckers are the spergs, tgey can't accept their gun is half as good at 3x the price