/rg/ Reloading General

tooling up for 45-70 and getting supplies for the 45-90 im getting.

I already reload 45 colt and 38spl

ah yeah doesn't sound worth the risk then. I'm in an apartment with a clear view of a main road and I feel like people wouldn't appreciate me walking outside and firing a rifle, even if it's effectively a blank.

I've actually popped live primers out many times without incident, I've even been able to re-use them afterwords. just wear ear and eypro when you do it just in case, but if one detonates on you it's not a huge deal, it won't hurt the brass or your press/dies.

I inserted a primer upside down once, What would've happened if i tried to fire it?

No powder of bullet.

This.

Wear gloves and long sleeves as wel, just in case

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Damn. I thought my old .375-50BMG was bad to form. That's worse.

I only had 4 forming steps, ream neck, OD neck turn, and trim to length. Looks like you had more forming steps and also had to turn the rim?

You reload 577/450niggerkiller also?

>he fell for the bpcr meme
Black powder belongs in rocklock frontstuffers.

sorta, that was a batch I made up for a friend who bought all the reloading equipment but hasn't gotten around to doing anything with it yet. I got tired of waiting for him so I loaded some ammo up with his dies and molds

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A C&R FFL and COE is like $100 if you want ammo shipped to you from online. Also lets you bypass 1 pistol per 30 days and the waiting period on C&R guns

Is that 11mm mauser in the middle?

is handling primers with my bare hands bad for the primers?

more or less, it's really only one forming op, but broken up into lots of small steps so that I can get the leverage I needed on the press and so I could re-apply the sizing wax each time.

wash the grease and cheeto dust off your hands and you'll be fine

Ah, ok. So just one form die then?

The only government you can trust™

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I love those old style boxes.

I'm going straight from an annealed .50-110 WCF into a CH4D 8mm krop full length sizing die. the annealing is critical, and the force required is quite high, but my success rate has been fantastic.

definitely one of the dumber things I've wasted money on, but hell if it doesn't make me smile every-time I pull a box out at the range.

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this will confuse the non-casters

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You make your own lube?

I've been collecting brass for a while to eventually start reloading. A few of the cases have these serrated crimp rings on them, are they safe to keep for reloading, or should I just toss them into the recycle box?

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Nah, that's just SPG

its fine, i do it all the time.

I've never noticed any issues when I've used brass like that, you're probably fine

They're good for reloading. Are those .45 LC?

So I only use a lee loader at the moment, and in a fit of autism I seated a primed case with a projectile without putting powder in. What would happen if I loaded it into my snub 357 and attempted to fire it?

Squib city

That’s some patience for shooting an oldie like the kropatschek.

I’ve heard there are a small handful (probably low single digits) of Kropatscheks in the US that were Austrian naval versions chambered in the Austrian 8x50mm. I’ve never seen one for sale anywhere though, only the Portuguese.

too short to be 45 LC

>he made what looks like a live round but has no powder
That's dangerous as fuck. Get rid of that thing, it's a squib. Bad news. Don't risk your gun and your hand.

Pipe shotgun

How is it a pipe bomb?

Figured kek

Because it could cause a squib (bullet doesn’t exit barrel) so any subsequent shots would cause boom.

Nice.
On my 375-50bmg there were 4 forming dies speced out, but only nos, 3 and 4 were needed. You could easily skip the first 2. Annealing critical, of course. I was using the RCBS Ammomaster press, which is pretty big. Force required was high but not unreasonably so. That said if I get another rifle like that again I am stepping up to a bigger press. I'd much rather have really smooth feel and more control than have to exert a lot of force on the lever.

sometimes too much airspace = boom.

The risk is that the primer is powerful enough to drive the bullet out the case, but not powerful enough to actually shoot the bullet down the barrel. The bullet ends up stuck in the barrel. It becomes a bore obstruction. If you don't catch it and pull the trigger then the next bullet strikes the squib and the gun goes boom. Maybe parts of your hand do too. Or you get metal bits in your face. Not good. Go damage that thing so you can't accidentally mistake it for a live round. Or ideally can't even chamber it.

Pics of .357-50?

I posted a pic of the brass and some of my 577 snider stuff in the last big reloading thread but I don't have acess to the pic from the tablet I'm on now. I will gladly repost tomorrow though.

Ive been considering reloading some 41 swiss with BP but I'm brand new to the whole affair. How much do you need to compress using a drop tube / wad / seating to avoid problems? Do I risk making my Vetterli a pipe bomb if I get this wrong?

as long as there's no/little airspace, you won't have any issues. based on your intended COAL and your bullet length, you should be able to determine how high the powder must fill the case before it touches the bullet base. start there, you can worry about compression and drop tubes and all that crap later if you really want to get anal retentive with it.

I'm not that dude, but I do.

My recipe
30% paraffin wax (candle wax)
30% beeswax
25% vaseline
10% Lucas red tacky grease
5% Auto trans fluid

Warm the mixture over gentle heat. Once the wax melts, mix it. This is best done with an old cake-beater attachment or even just a twisted loop of wire stuck in a cordless drill. It takes some mixing to get the grease incorporated. This has really good anti-rust and anti-corrosion properties thanks to the additives in the grease and trans fluid, which is always nice to have.

thx

It's cheap too. I've used it for both black powder and smokeless. Works great.

The beeswax is expensive from a craft store but cheap as hell online. Get generic vaseline from walmart or similar. Ditto for gulf brand canning wax, or find some candles on sale somewhere. The grease and trans fluid aren't bad either, and one container of each will make a LOT of lube.

spend like 10 bucks on a bullet puller, chances are you'll make the same mistake again at some point

Speaking of bullet pullers, which are best for cast bullets?

dunno, sorry, I don't cast yet

So....anyone tried making defensive loads or ammo? How'd that work out? Would you trust your life with your own reloads?

I do trust my life with my reloads, but i will not carry my own loads in my EDC because of that gives a possible prosecution more ammo against you.
"He made more deadly bullets! he wanted to kill!"

Might do a few boxes of XTPs, but desu probably wouldn't carry them. I single stage and trust everything I load, but I'd probably have a nagging concern.

>gives a possible prosecution more ammo against you.
"He made more deadly bullets! he wanted to kill!"
If you're gonna post this fuddlore, at least try to post a single case of this happening and losing someone a case.

Wheres a good place to start if Ive never reloaded anything and I want to get into 577/450.

I got a lot of pic related but its only a matter of time.

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What's are those two rounds in the thumbnail, OP

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Here is some good vids:
Britishmuzzleloaders is the best:
youtube.com/watch?v=l7DDGgE0wU8
Here is the IV8888 one:
youtube.com/watch?v=BDgAEMgYgbo

I'm guessing but the second one looks like 11mm Mauser and the last one is 577/450

>Wheres a good place to start if Ive never reloaded anything and I want to get into 577/450.
It's one of the worst places to start. I actually spent most of last week looking into getting an untouched martini, doing a full clean, then making ammo, but it's a bitch. You'll need a set of dies that are too large to fit a lot of presses, bullet mold (not a big deal, but you'd need a casting setup and learn how) and brass is expensive and hard to come by. Then you'd need to ensure your cast bullets were the right size for your barrel, may need to paper wrap them, ect. Anyhow, not to discourage you, but I wouldn't start with it. Do you have other calibers you could reload for first? If you need a press setup, then make sure to get one that can take the 577/450 dies down the road.

You can make the brass from 24 gauge brass shot shells. Doing it that way is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. still expensive compared to more modern cartridges but makes getting a good supply of cases a realistic thing.

>Do you have other calibers you could reload for first?
perhaps............

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I hate myself every day for missing the milsurp train

GEW 88s, and trapdoors are still relatively cheap.
Martinis and snider enfields are more expensive but are usually under 1000

Yeah, all my rifle, 380, 9mm, and 300blk are hand loads... Once I find some good 135ish 40 cal projectiles ima try and duplicate the 1800+fps results I've seen with long shot..

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I have take to bump sizing my .303 cases each loading for super smooth chambering.

I wonder how long until I get my first ever failed cases, I've never had one in 10 years of loading .303.

Everything I posted in was acquired in the past 5 years. If you aren't turbo poor and vigilant you can still find pretty much anything you need. Everything I've got has been under 1k.
closest I got was my M1 Garand and my newest addition from last month (pic related)

you can still find everything, what matters is the scale you're willing to pay at.

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Why the fuck don't they still look like that?

>what matters is the scale you're willing to pay at
I know, it just kills me that I could've had multiple milsurp guns for the price a single one now. Just paid $450 for an SKS kek.

>all that milsurp and isnt reloading
Nigga whatchu doing?

I am not confused.

I got one failure with my full length 308 after 4 full length loadings... Do you anneal?

Squib possibility of stuck in barrel.

I'm confused as to why you don't just powder coat like a non homosexual...

powder coated bullets are gay

lack of space. Apartment life is suffering.

If you have space for the guns you have space for a small reloading stand.

nothing.

yea but space for the stuff related to reloading as well. I have to live with a pair of turtles, a girlfriend (for now) and a balcony garden, space and storage here is at a premium. I keep telling myself I should just get some kind of basic bitch press but like I siad in my first post i have NEVER done any reloading so i wouldn't know where to start.

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Disregard females. Acquire ammunition.

Anyone still have that list of things to start reloading? Finally considering it, but I'm still in an apartment for now.

Living like so I haven't rolled my own for a few months now, shits all in storage and it doesn't feel good mang.

I had a bottle of super glue leak and soak into a box of ammo, any chance I can safely clean or shoot this without pulling the bullets and popping the primers?

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A press, a scale, and a pair of calipers, and you can find youtube guys that will walk you through the first steps. Check out Natchez shooter supply for great prices.

If it headspaces in your gun then just shoot it and then throw it in a gateraid bottle full of acetone, keep it by the bathroom and shake it everytime you pass it to piss, drain it after a week or so and do it as normal.

>can't find loadings for 139/140 grain 7.5 French
>can't find 139/140 grain .30 cal bullets
reeee

Lots of reloading data from other folks online and free pdfs from reloading companies. You don't need perfect replica loads, just keep mind of pressures and use common sense.

thanks user, I hope I don't blow up.

What's more versatile when reloading: .45acp, or 10mm?
Looking for 2 main purposes respectively
>Suppressed
>Over pressured

Just rub them with a rag soaked with mineral spirits?

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10mm in regards to overpressure rounds in terms of utility for defense and tactical watermelon killing but .45 subsonics will honestly be used more often through a can so its up to you.

Yea

Bought a bunch of surplus 7.62x51 and the brass is rather tight in my 308 win dies, would a 7,62 die be a better choice? Or any other ideas/ methods you guys use?

Pic as requested.
577 Snider brass & 500-grain "trashcan specials" on the left. 12ga 2 3/4" for scale. 375-50BMG on the right.

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