Now the dust has settled, are the Queen Elizabeth II class Aircraft carriers any good?

Now the dust has settled, are the Queen Elizabeth II class Aircraft carriers any good?

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>caring about airshit

You've mistaken the Navy for the RAF

Better than every other non-US aircraft carrier, worse than Nimitz and Ford class carriers.

>Ramp

Fuck no, bongs are as useless as Swedes.

>Fuck no
The constant violate nature of that answer makes me always wonder if the Colonists aren't secretly jealous of The Ramp and all the fun associated wit it...

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>dust has settled,

they're brand new and classified to fuck.
it's like asking if the B-2 is any good.
Anybody that knows anything more than memes isn't going to say.

>Queen Elizabeth II class

U wot

I don't want to make unsubstantiated claims but i suspect it would make a poor aircraft carrier.

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What it lacks in flight deck it makes up in speed, at 34 knots it's one hell of a speedster.

Pretty good overall, the Ford is superior in most ways but the Elizabeth is better in some other ways for example crew quarters.

Tl;Dr yes

I am going to make an interjection on ship conversions:

Its a known fact that the US and Japan knew that war between them would involve aircraft carriers. What is not known is how they tried to move along that route without expanding their navies in a broad and overt way.

Enter the XCV program. The US designed and planned to convert several passenger cruise liners with the requisite strength and capability to act as light aircraft carriers should war ever be declared. This never happened in real life but actual escort carriers based on merchant hulls were built from ground up rather than conversions.

Japan on the other hand did indeed convert two liners for aircraft carrier operations.

>Queen Elizabeth II
The what?

it's not as capable as the Nimitz or the Ford
it's better than anything else

i don't understand how difficult this is

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Yes, they're very good.

1/3 of the cost of a Ford, 1/3 of the personel requirement.

1/3 the aircraft compliment.

QE: 24-36 jets
Ford: 75+

God she was pretty

This, I'd put them slightly ahead of the liaoning but behind the Nimitz and Ford class. With the Ford class being slightly ahead of the Nimitz when it's fully operational, and the Chinese type 002 carrier will be better than the Elizabeth but both are still behind the Nimitz in tonnage and lacking nuclear power. The chinese type 003 is the only proposed carrier that is closest in capability, size, and technology to the Nimitz or Ford.

At least we can all agree itll probably never lose a fight to a drydock.

I dunno man, who knows what drydock technology will be like in 30 years?

IMPLESSSIVE

Carriers are only as good as their aircraft, numbnuts. the F35B shits all over the hornet and that makes QE better than the Nimitz (until it switches to F35C). Chinese 002 is a very poor fourth to Ford, QE, then Nimitz, then 002.

Nuclear power literally doesn't mean shit if you're not running cats anyway. QE can maintain almost the same sortie rate as Nimitz with 1/3 the airframes. The future is now old man.

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How many female berths, this will determine number of days till ship's sinking

>Carriers are only as good as their aircraft
this is mostly true, yet the QE can only operate F-35Bs if it could operate non-STOVL fighters it'd be much better

>Nuclear power literally doesn't mean shit if you're not running cats anyway
I'm not even a chink shill but lookup what the 002 is going to be and what the 003 is going to be, one is going to have catapults and conventional power and the other is going to have catapults and nuclear power. Both will objectively still be worse than the Nimitz and Ford in capability, but they will be nearly equal if not better in overall capability than the QE if the chinks could maintain a good sortie rate (which I doubt they ever will).

>a ramp is better than being shot out of a catapult
Cope

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>QE can maintain almost the same sortie rate as Nimitz with 1/3 the airframes

doubt

but anyway assuming that is correct that means that any battle losses the QE takes are putting massive holes in their capability compared to real carriers

>sk8 or die

I wish the French full-fat version had come through...

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