Handgun General - /hg/ - #222

I already reload .357 so it's more for another set of dies, projectiles, and probably different powder

Not him but I'm in the same boat.
I'm going for a .357 SAA or SAA-like. Should I get Uberti/Cimarron/etc., or Ruger?
Are there other good SAA brands to look for in the price range?

Yeah but get the right one
Metal frame with no rail

the ruger marks are fun to shoot and cheap to feed

Suggestions on a budget reflex to throw on my MKIV Lite?

Burris Fastfire 2 or 3, Vortex something or other (they make 3 mini dots at different prices), or a used RMR for $250. Or maybe a Sig Romeo1 if it's on sale for like $200

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>It's not a 10" heavy barrel tho

???? It isn't? Well the one I had was 10"

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Oh nice
I take back what I said here

The one in OP is an AWC Amphibian or something similar, it's not a heavy barrel or 10" tho

Have two Uberti blackpowder revolvers and both of them are very high quality guns I would happily get more of their stuff. I've heard mixed things about Cimarron from them being just as good as any other company to remington tier qc issues and no customer service. Rugers are built like tanks and I've read about their new vaqueros going 30k rounds without needing any replacement parts in cowboy action shooting. Based on personal experience if all 3 were the same price I'd probably pick a Ruger.

Cimmaron uses both pietta and uberti.
I like my cimmaron/pietta

Oh I see it now. I didn't bother expanding the photo when I made my first response. It becomes obvious now that I looked at the expanded photo.

What is a good price for a new Squinx Sdp subcompact? Seems like they are pretty hard to find

>price is a very real reason
the p-09 is even more cost-effective my dude
>not as good ergos
the P-09 has interchangeable back-straps and the shaping of the frame combined with this allows for a shorter distance from the web of the shooter's hand to the trigger which is preferable for the vast majority of people.
>not nearly as nice visually
>that's subjective
damn right.
that's just, like, your opinion man.
the P-09 is a better duty gun, as you will be carrying it attached to your hip way more often then you will shoot it, and the CZ75 in stock form is far from the top of the pack when you are looking at competition or even just the range.
the CZ75 in its original configuration is a jack of all trades master of none at this point. there's no need to settle for such a thing unless you are lazy or amateur. Use the right tool for the job at hand.

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I thought the same thing about the 6-7/8" bbl
Damn, I wish I had it back.

>I don't want to get into absolutes, some people like glock triggers some like P10Cs.
that's a bit of a walk-back from
>No Glock trigger could ever be made as good as a factory P10C trigger, it's just not possible[...]
so does it matter at all or not?

was there ever a rifle-stock conversion for a Mark series? that would be the bee-knees, friend. pair that with the 10" and you're got a good time.

what's the story on that Steyr RFP?
is it new to your collection?

the lowest price I could find on gun.deals is ~$800
gun.deals/product/sphinx-sdp-subcompact-alpha-9mm-313-black-13rd-79999
they are out of stock at all the dealers , and many are out of the compact too, so KRISS might just be having a hard time keeping up with demand. good luck, user.

Doubt it. Bill Ruger would have not approved.

bill ruger is dead and can suck my dick.

Many thanks for the advice, resident pistol nerds.

My thought process on upgrading the Glock is flawed, yes - that a pistol would have to be modified (heavily) to become comfortable and easy to operate implies that it is a flawed design. Stock sights are garbage, the grip can demand work, and many changes are made by most owners.

I agree with Burt in that even the high-end Zev glock triggers are just 'less bad' mush, but for some reason I find a squishy yet consistently squishy trigger for a multipurpose gun kind of comfortable. If I'm running a match I can blast it off really easily and repeatably, and if I'm working at the range I can at least have a good muscle-memory of what my break /should/ feel like.

All that said, I think from the gross amount of reviewers online saying that the P10 has a proportionately 'outstanding' stock trigger, that's enough of a motivator to work on building one that's comfortable to shoot in all other aspects (stippling/spray, altering grip, any sight changes)

I will admit (somewhat shamefully) that I like glock aesthetics, and the nitride gen 5's put some water in my hose. But, reason should win out and I will do some testing + update you all some day if I make a decision.

There were aftermarket conversions available, wtf is your google broke?
They never were very successful because anyone with half a brain knows a rifle does everything better without all the SBR nonsense.

I guess I'm saying it can't be made "as good for me." A glock trigger can't be made crisp, if crispness is desired. I desire crispness and would wager most shooters do too.

idk

idk, bought it cause it was cheap, haven't shot it yet but it feels terrible in the hand and the sharp, serrated trigger is almost painful to pull. Also it's one of the few .22s I know of that is NOT safe to dry fire, it has no firing pin stop and will ding the barrel with one hit.

Like I said some people prefer the creepy glock style trigger. My Sig P226's single action has a fair bit of creep but it's very smooth and it's one of my favorite trigger pulls. I'd put ergonomics/hand feel above all else when trying to decide on a new gun and I'd put trigger pull much lower in the bottom third of considerations. You can learn to be great with a new kind of trigger but you can't change your physiology if the gun's uncomfortable to hold and use.

Also the P10C's grip texture is already really aggressive, you probably won't need to stipple it, a lot of people complain that it's too aggressive. That's something else to decide on your own

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I want to buy a single action army.

What is the best modern SAA?

What is that magnificent thing in the bottom left

bruh

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Are the old Kimber Solos plagued with the same QC issues as their 1911s?

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Keep an eye open on GB saw one go for under 750 couple weeks ago

Now I'm not a big tactical guy, or an operator, but the TRP TACTICAL OPERATOR is hot af

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is this the correct way to install sights:

youtube.com/watch?v=Eh9z31P0ldk

Colt's SAA, or Ruger Vaquero

>Broomhandle Mauser Replica built on an AR-7 receiver

I'm jelly

jesus fucking christ why dude

Good lord. I mean, once you scrub the brass marks off that's probably an okay method for regular dot or plain sights but that'll crack a tritium vial lickity split and I doubt Night Fision would warranty that.

You're SUPPOSED to test fit the sights, shave the bottom of of the sight until it fits 1/3 into the dovetail and then use a pusher to slowly feed it the rest of the way in.

Don't be, it's just a Charter Explorer II, one of the shittiest guns ever made

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>the arrogance of the noguns idiot
I was talking about the price of the sphinx you fucking moron.
The 75 has a nicer grip regardless of the backstraps on the 09. I’m also pretty sure it has a better trigger. Saying the 09 makes a better range gun is also idiotic because nearly anything can be a range gun.
Stop posting your shit opinion you fucking retard. You own neither and have shot neither. I have at least shot the 75 and can confidently say it makes for a good gun for most people.

Has anyone tried an LCRx .22lr? They only weigh 17oz.

My buddy had a blued 10" Ruger Mk. It was almost like a rifle with its sight radius, hitting torso size targets at 100yds was easy.

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Stop responding to him and just filter the fuck. He’s doing us a favor by putting on a trip, believe me
Rented one, was very comfy. The LCR trigger is SMOOTH. Like really fucking smooth

>the P-09 is not a better range gun OOTB
>the P-09 is even more cost effective compared to the CZ75 when both are compared to the Sphinx
>the CZ75 has likely a better trigger, but is nowhere as nice as a dedicated target gun that has proper adjustments
my point was never that the P-09 was universally "better" than the CZ75, or that the CZ75 is universally worse than a tricked out Sphinx, but that it has neither of the advantages and both of the deficiencies of the other two specialist options.
If you can only have one gun, by all means find some compromise that is tolerable for you. Personally, I'm glad that I don't have to make such a decision. You can simply purchase them all.
this desu. it'll do me a favor too by not having to put up with internet rage from easily triggered idiots.

>why if the fuck

What QC issues are Kimber 1911s currently plagued with in 2018?

I had brief experience with an LCRx .357, I liked it a lot. Super light, trigger was quite good with just a little stacking right at the end of the DA pull and even though it's plastic it felt well made. I want one, and a .22 seems like a lot of fun.

Hey dudes, getting my license next month so I can finally buy a handgun.

What's a good budget range? I was hoping to keep things around 5-600 but I like at least buying decent stuff. So I'm willing to up my budget if I'm looking at trash in that range.

The range near me has a large variety of guns to test shoot so I'll be doing that before I make a decision, but I want to know what damage to my bank I should be expecting for something decent.

Thanks. How accurate was the LCRx? I want a light weight kit gun, that's accurate enough to take small game.

P-07. Can be had for under $500 and it makes an excellent edc/range gun.

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What do you want the handgun for? Carry, range, competition, home defense?

NRA tests showed it’ll get 2 inches at 15 yards from a rest with a variety of loads

Range, technically home defense, but I live in a 2 room apartment, the time it takes to get from the door to anywhere I would be is about 5 seconds so I doubt self defense is that applicable.

So mostly range. I'm not exactly starving, I just don't want to buy something fancy I don't need so I like to limit myself to a good range.

the only idiot here is you
Nobody takes your opinion seriously

HwiteKnight is an idiot noguns who gives bad advice
Filter him

Should I get a buckmark micro bull? Bass pro has one fro $199 after rebate, I think it looks kinda ugly compared to the rectangle barrel 5.5 inch, but even the cheapest one I've seen would be $31 more

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I've tried the grip but I wish it had a shorter length at a wider angle. It's nearly 90 degrees, and I've never been a fan of that in revolvers.
The LCR is a slick design, no doubt about that.
I pray every day for a 3" LCR in .327 Federal with the Fiber front sight and some better grips.
I doubt that will ever happen though,

anyone have experience with Buck Marks? Was gonna go for a Ruger Mark IV but I'm in CA so that's probably not gonna happen

what caliber are you looking for?

please identify my bad advice so I can give less of it for your sake explicitly. I am very ashamed that you would ever think so little of me, user. please forgive me!

Definitely get a nice full size metal frame 9mm. I like the Beretta 92 personally (it’s actually the favorite gun I own), but a lot of people have had good luck with CZ75s and SP01s. Any should fit right in with your budget

31 dollars isn't really a lot to get the gun that would make you happy. $230 for the gun you really want still sounds like a good deal to me.

9mm preferably. not dead set, but 9mm seems to be the overall standard and the cheapest and easiest to work with.

right now I'm lookin at the storm and the m9/m9a3, which I've heard good things about. but not sure how they compare to other 9mms
nice, I was looking at the 92, good to know this is about right.

M9 have really comfy ergonomics if you’re not a man let. Triggers really smooth out after some dry fire, I prefer it to a Sig (even Sig short reset). Muzzle flip is so mellow it’s incredible how quickly you can put accurate shots on target. Takedown is easy, controls easy to engage (except the slide safety but I never use it unless I’m decocking). The only downside to the gun IMO is it’s size, but since it’s not going to be a carry gun that’s pretty irrelevant.

It looks better but not by much. UDX is what I think looks good but that's $150 more. I figure for a cheap .22, might as well be cheap as it can get.

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Liar

All of it

Stop listening to that trip
He’s admitted openly that he’s not allowed in any of his LGS and has never shot a gun

What's the verdict on the FNP? Saw one at the store for cheap and they seemed nice but it also seemed like the most "it's a pistol" except it's DA/SA to separate it from Glocks.

I like mine. Nice trigger and looks, and it handles pretty well.
It was a bit finnicky with ammo at the start, but I think it's ironed out a bit with use.

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It wasn't remarkably inaccurate or accurate. The .357 has fixed sights but the .22 has adjustable sights fwiw

I just finished this project after thinking about it for a while and saving searches on gunbroker. Found a pre-mkii a-100 frame with all the original parts, including the bolt for < $100. I had to do some fitting on the frame, the pac-lite and my 22/45 lite upper were tight as fuck and wouldn't fully lock up. Now it's perfect and shoots like a dream. You can't buy something exactly like this unfortunately, but it turned out way better than I imagined. With the suppressor it's just downright cool. What's a good way to black out or get rid of the white lettering on a pac-lite?

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if you are willing to spend just above your 600 budget I found this deal on a 92A1 that would really be a nice upgrade over a standard FS or M9. It comes with three magazines and ships free to boot!
gun.deals/product/beretta-92a1-9mm-rail-and-3-magazines-67999-shipped

ah, well, that's not a bad way to go then. you'll probably be thinking about how its not a UDX the whole time, though. sometimes its worth waiting to get what you really want, ya know?
that is blatantly false. if you don't like my advice just filter me dude. No need to start making up shit about me. What the fuck, man. Calm your tits.
the .38 special has a 3" with target sights available, IIRC. strange there is no 3" target .357 magnum yet.

You told us all on the discord that you couldn’t buy a gun. On top of your admittance of having severe autism, you also admitted that you have never fired a gun before.
There are people here seeking legitimate advice for purchases that may help them defend their lives and the lives of their family and loved ones. Coming here and spouting the fucking bullshit you do to people who don’t know any better is exactly why I don’t filter you and constantly shit on your stupid noguns ass.

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>like legit autism for reals?
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post pictures of this nonsense or GTFO.
nice that you would use the discord as some sort of cover for your ridiculous slander, especially knowing that I no longer have access to it. I have no legal restrictions against me, and I've shot guns aplenty. If I haven't shot a particular gun, I never make claims to the contrary. Stop being an asshole and start bringing serious criticisms to the table or fuck off and filter me.
says the user greentexting like a ghetto nigger who beats his child because he's all out of scratchoffs and booze. Fucking sick wit you have there.

I'm not super interested in the buckmark in any emotional way, I think the UDX looks better because wood and bluing, as well as the stainless models, but the gun itself is not particularly compelling enough to spend twice the price to acquire those models. I just dislike the look of a short barrel with a longer grip, and in most cases heavy barrel's look ugly with the exception of the old rugers. If I was truly wanting to buy something I reealy want, I would be spending a gross amount of money on the old world pattern of target pistols that died in the 70's, Woodsman Match Target, High Standard .22's, browning challengers, etcetera. I'm just looking for a cheap .22 pistol.
I'd be more apt to get a revolver in this case instead, but there is no middle ground, it's either a zymac rough rider or a single six that costs as much as a proper Italian clone in a big boy caliber that I'd rather buy.

There's a colt 22lr 1911 on my local armslist I kinda really want.

>I have t-totally shot a lot of guns! I have no l-legal restrictions!
Post your fucking guns you autistic faggot. All of us will never take you seriously until you do.

Anyone know of any good Black Friday deals pertaining to handguns? So far I've bought bulk ammo.

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It actually really fucking blows that we can't get those walther Olympia clones made by Norinco.
I think the Olympia TT?
I love all those classic designs too, and it is plain dumb how expensive they all are now.

Nice trips
Post it

Look on gun.deals

Shut up noguns

Academy's got the Shield 2.0 with the laser for $300.

If my ultimate goal is to end up with a Roland special glock, is it better to build or buy? I'm going to piece it together over time, as this is a fun gun.

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Might as well build it from a P80 if you’re going to do this dumb shit

gee billy, 17 slide serrations!

Ruger's new guns apparently aren't compliant with some new micro stamping law in CA. I tried to look into ordering one online and they said they couldn't sell them any time soon.
But does that mean that I might find one grand fathered in in like a store or something? I found some at a gun show but they were all vintage and really expensive.

Ok guys, I grow tired of collecting many handguns and wish to cut down my collection to one handgun to practice constantly with, and to defend my family at home and on our outdoor or big city adventures. Something to throw in the pack or a holster and take everywhere with me. I am positive I want either a USP Compact in 9mm, or a S&W Model 27 in .357, but I cannot decide which. I just know one of these two will suit me better than my Glocks or my Super Redhawk. Which get?

Does this help?
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etc

iirc you can still buy off-roster used guns in CA but, like NFA firearms, they are a limited commodity and command a premium. It was that way when I left the state 15 years ago anyway.

Autoloaders are quantifiable more practical than revolvers so that should make things easier.

I think there are much better options these days than a USP Compact, though I guess it depends on your unlisted priorities. fwiw I trust most models from most manufacturers to be as reliable as a USPc (if not as long-lived).

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You're building either way, unless you pay someone at a proshop to build it for you which would be buying.

I bet you could make it easier by either buying a new premilled upper and buying some cheap ass gen 3 lower, so stripping the grooves and doing all the stippling etc wouldn't be a devastating thing, and then buying your OEM threaded barrel or whatever fucknuckle barrel and comp you would be getting, then the rest is just expensive gravy.

it's going to be expensive no matter what way you cut it.

Just get both you utter retard

this is not a helpful response me ol' chum

You’ll thank me later

I'm not the guy you responded to, just an observer saying that that's not helpful advice given his stated requirements

He’ll thank me later. No gun can do it all, thats why we buy more than one.

I've yet to hear anyone say their QC has improved. It also seems most of their stuff rarely moves off the shelves, so there's a lot of NOS.

My cousin has one. If you use the ammo Kimber states to use it works. Regular target/range ammo definitely does not work.

It needs hot self defense rounds to be reliable. Expensive gun to shoot.

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