Apparently Russia has a cannon aboard the ISS

Apparently Russia has a cannon aboard the ISS.

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No they didn't, they had a cannon aboard a short-term space station that they never fired.

Salyut 3 which had at most had a 30mm which is nowhere as large as the shell in op

>Salyut 3
That's the one.

They fired it, they just didn't do it when it was manned and never in anger.
Unless you think a .410ish shotgun, 5.45 or a makarov constitutes a cannon, the other anons are correct.

the cannon in question
had to be aimed by rotating the station
vibrations and other considerations like how it would affect the orbit were the reason it was never fired

its basically another one of those russian ideas that were retarded as fuck and mostly a PR stunt to show evil american capitalist pigs that russian space stations could and would defend themselves

if you wanna talk cool russian spacegun shit lets talk tp-82, but OP is so retarded i highly doubt that anything will come of this

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>that they never fired.
but they did fire it

there are different sources, some say it was fired full brrrrrt others say it was pew pew pew either way the only time they fired it was shortly before the station deorbited on the last manned mission - for the reasons stated above:
hard to aim
vibrations
affects orbit

now git

>had to be aimed by rotating the station
True
>vibrations and other considerations like how it would affect the orbit were the reason it was never fired
This has been covered in the thread already, it was fired. The station was just unmanned when they just in case.
>its basically another one of those russian ideas that were retarded as fuck and mostly a PR stunt to show evil american capitalist pigs that russian space stations could and would defend themselves
Except Salyut 3's real role as the military Almaz 2 was a secret, and they released as little information as possible, even about it's supposed civilian mission, so no it wasn't.
>if you wanna talk cool russian spacegun shit lets talk tp-82, but OP is so retarded i highly doubt that anything will come of this
Eh it's just a drilling. It's not that cool, except it went to space. And makarovs have been sent to space.

allright so here is the thing:
there are different sources claiming different firings.
the most likely, and believable comes from
" ed. Yakovlev, V.N., Raketniy Sh'it Otechestva TsIPK RVSN, Moscow, 1999 "
where the following is claimed:
>" According to Igor Afanasiev, an expert on the history of space technology, firings were conducted in the direction opposite to the station's velocity vector, in order to shorten the "orbital life" of the cannon's shells. A total of three firings had were conducted during the flight of the OPS-2"

Now that makes sense, considering you dont want to create more space more space debris and create a dangerous zone of lul russian boolits in spess.

the US source however claims:
>"Several sources confirm
that after the last crew left the Salyut-3 station, the cannon was test
fired to depletion via remote control. "
without ever mentioning or confirming these magical sources

And while its true that the almaz stations were secret reconnaissance platforms, hiding the fact that youre launching a station is nigh impossible thanks to ground based radar.
The gun itself used telescoping ammunition, which is why it was likely chosen due to weight reduction vs brass or steel cased ammo.
It is unclear when the fact that salyut 3 was equipped with a gun went public, but the US source claims that pavel popovich (who was the commander of soyuz 14) was the one to confirm this (without any sources confirmed or given) likely between the fall of the soviet union and the turn of the new millenium.
Either way it could likely only fire prograde and normal and antinormal as any other firing would result in the station hitting its on bullet within the next orbit.
The point to the gun was to kill american interceptor spacecraft and lets be honest here it is highly unlikely that the US would start an incident by destroying a manned soviet station in space. Thus the conjecture that mounting a gun was more of a "moral boost" for cosmonauts

anyway my point is that the US source on this topic is so bad with providing proof and sources that my 4th grade teacher would slap me if i handed her an essay like that.
Even so, the US source claims that the gun would be effective within 1km.
Now think about how much 1km actually is at orbital speeds, when interceptor craft would likely approach from the stations opposite orbit to achieve the highest velocity difference and thus greatest kinetic kill potential.
Now imagine shooting down any object approaching you at a combined speed of whatever, lets say 6000 meters per second, and having the debris still hit you. Were talking about orbital velocities here where paintflakes destroy satellites and almost poke holes in the armored ISS windows.

tl;dr: the cannon was a retarded idea, that wouldve only worked against spacecraft approaching on the same orbital vector as the station, with 1km effective range and the firing endagering the space station.
Thus i think it is pretty safe to assume, that the cannon was more of a retarded idea that someone signed off to give comfort to cosmonauts and to do some sabre rattling towards the US if its existence ever became public knowledge.

The TP-82 is also the coolest survival drilling ever, so shut youre whore mouth.
And its sad that they replaced it with normal handguns because the 28g ammo is not produced and viable anymore.

>the almaz stations were secret reconnaissance platforms, hiding the fact that youre launching a station is nigh impossible thanks to ground based radar.

Secret does not mean "Nobody knows this even exists"

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you sound retarded

stop reading my posts in your own voice then

Neither source contradicts that it was fired though.
>And while its true that the almaz stations were secret reconnaissance platforms, hiding the fact that youre launching a station is nigh impossible thanks to ground based radar.
That's why they pretended it was the civilian station, hence Salyut 3, even though it was really Almaz 2
>The gun itself used telescoping ammunition, which is why it was likely chosen due to weight reduction vs brass or steel cased ammo.
It was telescoped but it was still steel cased. Though this has nothing to do with what I said.
>Either way it could likely only fire prograde and normal and antinormal as any other firing would result in the station hitting its on bullet within the next orbit.
You're severely underestimating just how large orbits are. The chances of hitting yourself is negligible.
>The point to the gun was to kill american interceptor spacecraft and lets be honest here it is highly unlikely that the US would start an incident by destroying a manned soviet station in space. Thus the conjecture that mounting a gun was more of a "moral boost" for cosmonauts
It was a tech demonstrator, nothing more. It was not intended to ever be used in anger on Salyut 3, hence why they performed tests to see how it went only at the end of the program. The station was only manned for about 2 weeks in total.
The cannon was far more likely to be for ASAT use if the concept had ever developed beyond an initial test. That said, its use in an Anti-ASAT role isn't as outlandish as you propose. When it flew, the only functional ASAT systems were 1) nuclear or 2) co-orbital and would have to get within range and at similar velocities.
>The TP-82 is also the coolest survival drilling ever
True, but it's not a strong market and it's still less cool than a space cannon.

All you retards know the main purpose of the space stations right up to MIR was not science it was to deploy a nuke. Yes nukes were deployed on Russian space stations because of the strategic advantage of a three minute flight to impact when over America

Now the orange Jew has declared space wars with the space force weaponized space the Russians are going to return nukes to space

Proof that they actually carried nukes or get out.
What an idiotic view point. You know Russia has had a space force for 20 years? The US space force changes nothing - they'll be doing exactly what their counterparts in the air force and other branches had been doing for decades. Literally nothing changes except the name and some of the hierarchy.

Reddit spacing and long text with no punctuation does that.

the TP-82 is cool and all but it's hardly impressive when compared to some of the other space weapons that the Soviets developed.

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Fucking Polyus. Stupidest fucking reason why it failed to get into orbit.

>PR stunt
>Classified mission

You literally have no idea how nuclear weapons work