>60's through early 00's the MP5 was the Oper8ers go to weapon >it since changed over to SBR 556 carbines due to better ballistics, and stopping power of 556 vs. 9mm >the HK53 existed this whole time yet nobody ever used it in large numbers
Why is this? Not only was it peak aesthetic, but it also seems like instead of everyone clamoring to the MP5 that the HK53 would have made more sense, especially by the 80's or 90's when 556 was already well established.
the move to 5.56 carbines was in response to the proliferation of body armour.
A pistol calibre is better when you can be sure you're shooting an unarmed target
Kevin Torres
HK didn't pimp it like the MP5? No one wanted a stubby 5.56 back then? We didn't have the kinda of lower penetrating 5.56 rounds we do now?
Cameron Hill
>body armor
Just when the fuck are people wearing body army? The real reason is nothing to do with the agencies magically realizing 556 is better, its because the military was basically giving them M4's
Grayson Bennett
The SAS were fond of it. Andy McNab wrote about giving a car full of IRA guys a rinsing with it.
>inb4 reading Andy McNab unironically I was young.
Jaxon Butler
Because AR-15 pattern carbines existed since the 60s. Preferable manual of arms. I say this as a huge fanboy of my HK93.
>Standard issue sidearms carried by most local patrol officers at the time were 9 mm pistols or .38 Special revolvers; some patrol cars were also equipped with a 12-gauge shotgun. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu carried illegally modified now fully automatic Norinco Type 56 S-1s (an AK-47 variant), a Bushmaster XM15 Dissipator with high capacity drum magazine, and a Heckler & Koch HK-91 rifle, as well as a Beretta 92FS pistol. The robbers wore mostly homemade, heavy plated body armor which successfully protected them from handgun rounds and shotgun pellets fired by the responding officers. A police SWAT team eventually arrived bearing sufficient firepower, and they commandeered an armored truck to evacuate the wounded. Several officers also appropriated AR-15 and other semi-automatic rifles from a nearby firearms dealer. The incident sparked debate on the need for patrol officers to upgrade their firepower in preparation for similar situations in the future.[3]
>Due to the large number of injuries, rounds fired, weapons used, and overall length of the shootout, it's regarded as one of the longest and bloodiest events in American police history.[4] Both men had fired approximately 1,100 rounds total,[vague] while approximately 650 rounds were fired by police.[5] Another estimate is that a total of nearly 2,000 rounds were fired.[1]
Wyatt Ross
It's ok user... I was young once too.
Mason White
There's lots of PCC/SMG's with AR manual of arms
Hunter Powell
Because they are loud as fuck mate.
Justin Green
AR's are simply better in virtually every respect
Christian Scott
You realize you can just order body armor from the internet, right? Plenty of criminals have been discovered wearing body armor. Just because not every single perp is wearing a vest doesn't mean that nobody is.
Jacob Cooper
>tfw no more cheap $300 Century hk53 clones
Ethan Lewis
Did you really read the OP properly? The subject is AR vs HK53, not 9mm vs 556.
Colton Wood
They used to make them. C93 pistols existed. Like the old rifle version (not the recent PTR reworked ones), they were a solid 50/50 on if it would work at all or not. You can find one still on gunbroker but be prepared to pay at least $700. They stopped because there's so few parts kits for them left and demand didn't exist for them until recently.
Asher Robinson
>a one-off event so rare people still talk about it in mythical status much like the tales of bonnie and clyde
Mason Hughes
Shit. I misread. Disregard my post.
Samuel Carter
Why does the HK93 look so much sexier than the HK91?
Christopher Anderson
>The robbers wore mostly homemade, heavy plated body armor Has it ever been released what they made their armor from?
Samuel Allen
Mp5 is way more aesthetic
Grayson Gonzalez
Bulletproof vests.
Camden Murphy
dat magazine
Gavin Stewart
>The incident sparked debate on the need for patrol officers to upgrade their firepower in preparation for similar situations in the future.