Magnum handgun thread

>~60,000 psi in a handgun
>~2000 fps

5.7 Is based, load some elite ammunition and your an honorary magnum caliber.

The heaviest 10mm I've seen is doubletaps 230 grain round. 230 grains at 11-1200 fps is a pretty sweet supressed round. If you wanna go heavier the .45 +p++ Wildcats are your best bet. Or get an ar10 pistol chambered in 500 automax :).

10mm basically matches short barrel .300 blackout / 5.56

OP, how DARE you change the original image I made?
9mm isn't even a "big boy" round.

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>People still carry 45 aarp when 45 super exits
>People still carry 45 aarp when 460 rowland exists
boomers explain yourselves

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>Already hand loading hot HP rounds

If I had more knowledge in the subject I would make my own tungsten rounds for it to punch holes through damn bear everything

Lmao the caliber twink deleted his post

Redpill me on 450 smc vs 45 super vs 460 rowland

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>more recoil
>makes hole the same size
>same capacity
>.45 aarp already has sufficient penetration for human SD
really only makes sense for wilderness defense imo.

ill take "Targets beyond 50 ft" for 500, Johnny!

>J-just as good!
imagine using the same line as 9mm and PSA apologists at the same time

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Make a new one that includes other magnum calibers and I'll post your oc.

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How is 10mm? I own and love my .357 S&W Model 13-1, but I'm looking into high powered semiautomatic handguns as well. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to try firing a 10mm and I'm kind of worried about going in blind, don't want to make another firearm purchase I'll regret.

Unironically get a G40. You'll want an optics cut eventually, and the 40 is essentially a gen 5 thanks to the slide bevel as well. You also get real long boi ballistics as well from a 6"

More like 50yrds, but yea i guess hunting and long range shooting make sense too.
I mean, are there really any .45 Sup or .460 rowland loadings that do noticeably better than 1" of expansion and 14.5" of penetration? they could theoretically push the same bullet deeper but that isn't really a pressing need considering 14.5 is plenty sufficient. I guess i could understand something like a .45 sup loading that could get an extra 2-3" just for insurance though. Not like the extra 100fps of .45 super is gonna start liquefying organs at the velocity ranges we're talking about or something.

Isn’t 357 only marginally better then 9mm out of a 2.5 inch barrel?

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>How is 10mm?
Great if you want an autoloading handgun with magnum performance and plenty of good medium and heavy weight loadings. Surprisingly lack luster if you want to mimic .357 magnum 125gr loadings, most loadings 155grs and under in 10mm tend to have rather lackluster penetration in comparison. .357 Sig is a better choice for that, and with top of the line loadings it's frequently within 100fps of 9x25 with comparable loads. OTOH if you want to meme real hardcore then liberty ammo 60gr rounds are kind of neat if you're into the super light and fast stuff, although .357 only lags behind by a little over 100fps with 65gr loads.

were that actually the case all anyone would ever "need" is 32 ACP in an FMJ loading.
Some of us go into the woods, too.

>.357 only lags behind by a little over 100fps with 65gr loads.
Actually i take that back, most testing of LCD seems to be coming in below advertised figures putting it neck and neck with underwoods 65gr ED loading out of a 4.5"bbl. Haven't found any 6" data for the 10mm but i swear i saw some at some point in the past...
youtube.com/watch?v=HarK-i9U0vI
youtube.com/watch?v=fgCRl80ZPdM
Your post makes literally no sense. I already said they were sensible choices for woods use and your .32 ACP point is completely illogical as none of the numerous downsides of .32 acp are shared by .45.

forgot picture...

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wait did i say neck and neck? i meant more like 80-90fps off...

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dumb frogposter

76" Master Race.

Not when you factor in heavier bullet weights

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This will have to do.

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>5'3 gets featured.

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>Falling for the Coonan meme

Why did you give the glock to the .45 avatar and the 1911 to the 9mm avatar

Is that the joke

I remember replying to that. Chad would use 9mm/.40/45acp because he's not a dork nerd who cares about statistics and numbers. Basically, he would give a bakers fuck about caliber wars. He'd go with a Glock in whatever caliber the idiot behind the counter recommends. Chad lives life, they don't argue about it like we do in an anime website.

.45ACP .230 Grain FMJ work on bears...I feel fine.

Nah senpai, a real chad would ask the guy behind the counter for the strongest applicable gun he had because he knows he could handle it. Not like he let some virgin desk clerk steer his decision making. He'd probably end up with a .44 or 10mm depending on whether he wanted an autoloader or revolver. Slim chance of a Deagle in .44 or .50 ae too, even chads have seen the matrix and the deagle is one of the chaddest guns around.

>t. limp wrists
If you don't ccw one of these then you shouldn't be allowed to post here.

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450 smc is 45 super with a small primer
45 super is 45 acp brass made much stronger to allow higher pressures think of it like a 45+p+
460 is a a hair larger than 45 acp/super/smc to prevent it from chambering but OAL is the same so same mags. It runs at pressures that make a 44 mag blush

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10mm works best with 180-200 grain jhps traveling at 1200+ fps

357 liberty is like 400 fps slower and 10 grains lighter

I know a chad and he Carrys a 4 inch sw500

"No"

Is that motherfucking 45-70?

my .44 mag is my favorite gun in my collection and I shoot it at any opertunity but I can’t hit shit with it, how do I fix this?

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Proper grip technique, light enough bullets that your barrel can actually stabilize, stop being dyel.

>460 is a a hair larger
FYI for any nubs he means longer not wider. Easy mistake to make if you just read the names and a post like that. .460 row is to .45 acp what .357 mag is to .38 spl. The diameter of the round is the same but they gave it a different number to make them easy to tell apart and made the case a hair longer so you couldn't chamber them in .45 or .38 only guns.
This is true, at least with current loadings. 10mm suffers from a real bad case of "bullets designed for a different caliber" -itis. There are some dedicated heavier designs built around 10mm, and in general heavier weight .40 designs handle 10mm velocities better, but once you try to chuck a 135gr bullet designed for .40 S&W velocities at 1500-1600fps bullets start to shit the bed.
That's an arbitrary limit likely based on the fact that .357 magnum rounds are expected to be fired through revolvers. They tend to have problems with very fast/light loads in terms of wear and tear. Look at .357 sig underwood 65gr xtreme defender loads and the difference is surprisingly small. A round about 8% heavier is moving around 4% slower, giving them roughly the same energy out of a 4.5" bbl.

45 p+ and 45 super
I also use 45 raptor and 460 SW
so 451/452 is god 45 is life

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It's .22 WRM, but it's actually surprisingly unpleasant to shoot out of that small of a revolver.

FFS get yourself some better speedloaders

9mm out of a full size 1911 feels fantastic, like shooting a .22. Only problem is century-old .45 Auto capacity but in 9mm

Imagine being so insecure that you have to externalize your sense of self-worth in that 1mm of difference between 9mm and 10mm. You are a low T faggot either way.

10mm is best mm.

Walked in the gun store one day with the intention of buying another $500-$700 revolver for the wilderness, Walked out with this for reasons that still escape me.

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It’s a plowhandle grip, does that affect anything? Also could you recommend some rounds?

No. In comparable barrel lengths, .357 vastly outclasses it.

>his only understanding of calibers is based on bullet diameter
Point, point and laugh!

You seem fun to party with

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I got em for 4 for 15$ not bad for a practice tool

Whats a good 10mm auto-loader?

G40

What caliber is that?

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45-70

9mm kurs more useful you cunts.
>But muh burrs
380 can penetrate a bear skull, dipshit.
>muh 300 lb meth head
Show me one

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COPE
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Get out of my thread bear

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If you ever come through Nevada I'd love to shoot with another Jow Forumsommando!

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but its objectively the same

you must really hate your wrists

"No."

someone doesn't understand gel tests

>10mmeme
>same class as a magnum
Kek

.22 short works on bears too, so it's all you should nee then
>ammoland.com/2017/06/bella-twin-the-22-used-to-take-the-1953-world-record-grizzly-and-more/#axzz5a1mw1mLo

best 10 mm 1911s under 2k USD?

.22 long* sorry.
>The .22 Long dates back to the 1930's and uses a 29 grain bullet at 1200 fps.

Glock

Yall may as well be shooting .22s while dilating your inside out tranny penises.

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Lmao this dudes all ready to defend himself from a block of jello

.380 has a fifth of the penetration of 10mm

What would you set the magnum barrier at? It's more powerful then .357 magnum.

RIA has a doublestack one

>5 times the energy per magazine of an original .45 acp 1911

What caliber is that?

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.380 avg penetration
FMJ: 19"
JHP: 11"
10mm
FMJ: 24"
JHP: 15"
Far from "a fifth" retard.
>luckygunner.com/labs/10mm-auto-self-defense-ammo-ballistic-gel-tests/

The hottest 10mm loads out of 6-8" test barrels are faster than basic .357 out of 4" test barrels, when the variables are similar, .357 mag is superior.
Hot .357 mag out of the same length barrel as hot 10mm, .357 mag is more powerful.

The best 10mm penetrates somewhere north of 72 inches

So you penetrate something less then a fourth. Correcting for the fact that clear ballistic gel gives inaccurate penetration measurements (usually showing 10-30 percent more penetration), you almost assuredly have like a fifth of the penetration.

Luckygunner a shit when it comes to his views on both on .380 and 10mm.

>33 round 10mm magazine
Fucking where? I've looked for an extended 10mm mag forever.

454 Casull, it will send a 240 gr bullet down range at about 1900 FPS.

As a .380 user your either stupid or poor, either way it doesn't surprise me that your a a liar.

The fmj loads show 32+ inches of penetration on luckygunners website, which is the max because there was only 32 inches of gel to fucking penetrate.

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>comparing meme rounds at loads most funs cant handle, with bullet composition the compared bullet doesnt use, and claiming that as an accurate representation of the average difference
10mm fags BTFO, having to take the upmost extreme example in the caliber against the average, or worst of the compared caliber to justify their poor choice/purchase.
Everyone knows 10mm is better for penetration and energy than .380, but you trying to do this pants on head example is laughable.