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Traditional Martial Arts that actually work?
Kevin Mitchell
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Brayden Rogers
Krabi Krabong, Kali and escrima are kinda effective but neutered by not using actual swords
Carter Wilson
pls no MMA/BJJ tapout faggotry
Nicholas Bell
>Krabi Krabong, Kali and escrima
Those are all the same thing, right?
Logan Robinson
Stick fighting enthusiasts would probably say a stick is plenty effective, though.
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Kayden Collins
regional variations
Jackson Garcia
Boxing
Colton James
Wrestling
David White
muay thai, for kicking ass. krav maga for self defence
Lucas King
Well, it is sort of experimentally proven time and time again to be the best one-on-one martial art.
Connor Long
the sticks in FMA are meant to be substitutes for actual swords or knives
"neutered" Arnis would be what they teach to elementary kids for traditional dance PE class
Isaac Ross
Does it matter? You'll only take like ten classes and then quite while thinking you're Bruce Lee
Xavier Carter
Wrestling and boxing
Bjj isn't traditional, but if youre likely to go hands on, its necessary imo
Nolan Long
> fight like a white man
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Jaxon Butler
Muay Thai is very effective at combating your average street combatant (niggers) as once you get in close the average person will try and clinch up. The closer in you get the worse most people fight and the better you will, they need distance for their sloppy ass punches.
Carter Brown
Holy Trinity of Krav Maga, Muy Thai, and Sambo
Liam Rodriguez
go take krav maga then you fucking faggot
Joseph Garcia
Fuck all of you faggots. Seriously. You fucking people are so goddamn deluded with your "krav maga" bullshit. I bet all of you faggots cant even throw a punch. Then the other half of you fucking faggots are going on about "le epic sambo khabib wrestles bears!!!!!!1!!1! XD" I wish you fucking stupid niggers would die in a fire. If you faggots ever came across anyone with a lick of real combat sports training you would get heemed stiff like the fucking dumb niggers you are. I fucking hate you people so much. If you had any sense about you you'd train wrestling, boxing, or muay thai. But instead you jerk yourself off to shitty krav maga self defense videos on youtube because youre still sensitive about that kid in grade 6 who used to beat you. Fucking unironically heem yourselves you braindead faggots
Nathan Nguyen
She's perfect, get over it.
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Cameron Myers
>Krav Maga
Any Okinawan style of Karate is pretty nice.
Carter Campbell
It's amazing how bongs can always find new way to crack me up, lmao.
Isaac King
In general, if it works in a TMA then it exists in a sport and it's better trained there.
As much as I love training muay thai, and as much as I love watching boxing, kickboxing and MMA, the fact is that you need to grapple. If you can't grapple, and your opponent can, he's usually gonna fuck you up. Striking at range is for professional fighters, on da streetz you need skill in the clinch and on the ground. And TMA is for larpers.
Sorta to that point
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Not my video btw. But shows how important dominant position is. And pokes holes in the "well I woulda just drawn my CC and put five center mass" argument. Remember, the criminal always picks the time and the place. You better expect to have to fight to get your gun out.
/rant
Adrian Mitchell
It is literally the best option you have with the most return
Quit being a meme faggot
Aiden Richardson
>mma being literally the best option
what
Levi Diaz
Christian Cooper
None. You could train for years, and all it'd take is one fatty with a gun to drop you. Its inherently pointless to waste your time on these memearts, when you should be training your shooting instead.
Angel Russell
Henry Wood
how do you expect to defend yourself in an airport or courthouse where you can't carry?
>inb4 carry anyways do not comply
Jace Cox
You should probably define Traditional Martial Arts first then.
Cameron Collins
Sadly, no. All the time I wasted there could have been better spend in Muai Tai or something
William Baker
Pre-Fight Club. Not one of those meme Martial Arts invented in the past 20 years or so.
Eli King
A boxer will lose 99 % of the fights against an MMA fighter because boxing teaches you to fight in an extremely tight frame work of rules and regulations. A boxer does not kick, he does not grapple, he does not fight on the ground, he does not twist arms and legs etc etc, he's at an extreme disadvantage against anyone who's not a boxer.
Jonathan Long
>ill take go for the legs for 500 Alex
>t.manlet that knows better than to try to box
Dominic Ramirez
>Choking someone into a useless, unconscious bag of meat is DUMB!
Jaxson Cox
I assume by traditional you mean something Asian wear you get a belt and a gi. In this case I reccomend judo.
Noah Myers
I love that video.
Adrian Gomez
>Jamal will let you roll around with Tyrone and choke him out
That may work in a gay dojo, though.
Colton Bennett
I bet the other fighters at your gym love having you around lol
Ayden Cooper
God damn, you sound like a butthurt kung fu guy from the early 2000's. "WHAT IF THERE IS MULItPLE ATTACKS AND GLASS ON THE GROUND?!?!"
Grappling is an essential part of fighting and you're a fucking idiot if you ignore it.
Joshua Hughes
*Attackers*
Charles Bailey
Don't forget the aids needles and lava golems.
Angel James
Krav is the only valid martial art
Julian Harris
> tfw no great grand master Gaylord to mentor you
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Aiden Kelly
That doesn't invalidate boxing. Most people don't practice MMA and a boxer is clearly advantageous against any regular street fighter. Most old martial arts don't really provide leverage.
Gabriel Myers
>don't be your meme, be the current cool kids meme
Elijah Campbell
Turkish wrestling.
Isaiah Diaz
Isn't Pankration MMA before MMA?
Blake Davis
At the end of the day, even the best, strongest, most complete style is useless if you lack the wisdom and judgment to use it effectively. It's also kind of important to stay in shape.
But fuck the internal styles. They are pretty, but useless.
Cooper Rogers
He's not wrong. If you're attacked by some random street nigger, there's almost always more than one of them. Striking and staying mobile is better than tying yourself up, though obviously you need to study grappling, mainly to avoid getting grappled.
Caleb Perry
I’m not an expert but wouldn’t judo work well in a street situation? I’d imagine throwing niggas to the ground would really fuck them up
Christian Clark
dude do you wanna flow right now bro?
Julian Cox
judo would work very well. it has a high learning curve though
Logan Butler
so its literally just karate with jewish marketing?
Nicholas Hill
a fellow man of taste? goju or uechi or isshin?
Connor Johnson
>excuse me sir can you put on this gi before we fight?
Mason Peterson
But Fight Club was out in 1996...
William Garcia
Believe it or not, just because black people are in the same area as eachother doesn't necessarily mean they're a gang.
Joshua Jones
>nobody wears clothes anymore
Luke Gomez
>Relaxing around blacks
No.
Samuel Brown
See
Aiden Miller
The founder was a national champion in boxing and wrestling. If you really want to know Krav maga you ought to just box, wrestle, and be willing to dick kick someone.
Parker Cook
They all worked when they were created. How well depends on the user, the training, and the circumstances. The ones that transitioned well to civilian defense were heavy striking and practical grappling forms that anticipated the user being outnumbered and unarmed. The ones that have full contact sparring that don't follow "the rules" like "no punching to the face, that thing every human does in a fight" will work.
Wushu was never a martial art. Wing Chun worked great when a 5' woman made it to beat up Chinese men with basic kung fu training. If you're a 230 lbs. 6' guy it might not be the best use of your time. And that's all the effort I'm willing to spend actually answering /asp/ thread # 1375. Keep arguing about which of your Jewish cock-kicking techniques works the best, you all seem to enjoy it instead of getting any answers.
Levi Hall
If they actually worked there wouldn’t of have been such a rush towards an alternative (Melee weapons/Firearms)
Blake Price
What if you're doing a traditional martial arts that includes firearms or weapons though...?
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But more seriously, most of the old martial arts were about weapons or grappling with daggers/knives. Only the late 19th - 20th century "traditional" martial arts are mostly about hand to hand stuff.
Angel Kelly
Shorin-Ryu.
Landon Gutierrez
Believe it or not, the more people the more chance of you being knocked down or taken down. PRACTICE GRAPPLING YOU FUCKING IDIOT. IF YOU KNOW HOW TO GRAPPLE YOU KNOW HOW TO BETTER STAY ON YOUR FEET.
Ethan Rodriguez
If there's lava golems then you use MCMAP, dumbass.
Jaxson Murphy
S I L A T
Eli Rivera
By this logic cowboy action shooting is a traditional marital art.
Lincoln Morris
i was training judo before i broke my femur. many of the throws have your opponents head strike the ground. on mats, it hurts to get thrown. but on concrete? that could easily kill someone. jiu jitsu would be better for subduing a melanin enriched person without actually hurting them.
Matthew Williams
Don't you have to register your body as a lethal weapon after they teach you MCMAP?
Hudson Morales
Bartitsu
Bentley Miller
Pankration
Eli Bennett
>We’s aight, you can chill around us
Nice try Treyshawn.
Angel Harris
I duel wield 1911s, and have incorporated several acrobatic jumps, and legged slides as a part of my fighting style. The key is to incorporate martial arts into your operating a firearm.
Connor Bell
IRISH BARE KNUCKLE BOXING
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Easton Fisher
Kek no, take that tan belt to a barfight and see what happens. Mcmap is cool if you get into it but you shouldn't rely on it alone.
Zachary Martin
No, it wouldn't.
William Powell
Non McDojo JJ/MT are the most practical things you're going to learn.
Not specifically the meme that is an MMA school all over suburban America because that's shit.
A) You were fucked to begin with and
B) You should have shot both of them
Jaxson Jenkins
The original pankration was MMA before MMA, the sport of Pankration today is like an MMA LITE.
Luke Howard
>he's not wrong
>but he's wrong
>but you're not wrong
>maybe you're right.
Leo Miller
Krav Maga isn't a martial art or fighting style you morons.
Xavier Smith
Glock no Jutsu
Hudson Diaz
Trips cofirm
Parker Mitchell
Technically speaking there's a lot, the main problem is people get this weird idea that martial arts is this magic pressure point bullshit where a 5'2" 80Ibs woman can suddenly take down 250Ibs of pure tank flesh by poking him and saying "you're already dead."
Shits really physically intensive and if you want it to do fuck all you gotta get swole and study for years.
Jaxon Clark
WHATS UP MY HILA KLEINERS
Brandon Johnson
This is a typical "I've never grappled" misconception. Like 90% of throws in judo can also be done without gripping clothing, you just grab the neck, wrists or elbows, or under the shoulder.
Also you can murder a guy in a button down shirt.
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Bentley Watson
>be willing to dick kick someone.
that is my entire unarmed self defense technique
Samuel White
Isaiah Kelly
Christian Martin
Remember whan /asp/ used to be about alternative sports and not just full blown wrestling threads?
Good times.
James Rivera
Then what is it?
Cameron King
Wrestling, shits been practiced for thousands of years and it still works whether on the battlefield or a mat. A lot of times you can stay on your feet when someone else tries to grapple you too. Not only that but wrestlers have unparalleled stamina, its fucking ridiculous. BJJ is good too but you won't get the same athleticism that that wrestling gives you.
Sebastian Evans
Israelis have a motto: SHOOT THE WOMEN FIRST!
Matthew Foster
if you don't want mma or bjj then you could do boxing, muay thai, kick boxing or judo, you'll be less trained all around but you'll fuck up most normies knowing any of that.
James Foster
All martial arts is just a theory on how to fight better. In practice learning a martial art just teaches you how to be mentally psyched up and disciplined to actually fight. There's never going to be some kind of "KILLER MOVE" that stumps all attackers. There's never going to be a "PERFECT MARTIAL ARTS".
Leo Nguyen
You have no idea what youre talking about
Hunter Thomas
Since traditional martial arts included weapons yeah they did. A sword even in the hands of a novice would almost always win again an unarmed opponent.
MMA vs traditional unarmed, mma wins due to being just about winning. Its simple, effective and barbaric.
MMA is not an art. Has no weapons.
TMA unarmed wins against unarmed non-mma opponent, or scares them away.
Jonathan Ortiz
More than that, the founder was in a Jewish street gang and was the go-to guy when they needed a street fighter. So it's practical experience on top of his boxing and wrestling skill. Also, it's literally MMA.
Hudson Long
Boxing