What was the purpose of MiG-27?
Why did Soviets build both MiG-27 and Su-17?
What was the purpose of MiG-27?
Asher Edwards
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Mason Long
>What was the purpose of MiG-27?
fuck shit up
>Why did Soviets build both MiG-27 and Su-17?
because Mig 27 was introduced half a decade later than the other, had a higher top speed, bigger range, larger payload etc etc
the other was kept around for satellite nations and as a trainer/last ditch reserve
Cooper Brown
Jace Roberts
But none of that is true though?
Su-17 could fly faster, could carry a bigger payload, and had longer range. You're thinking of export versions, which were inferior to what the Soviets had.
Luis Phillips
To spend more rubles while the proles stood for hours in line to get bread and asswipe.
Owen Moore
>You're thinking of export versions, which were inferior to what the Soviets had.
?No I'm literally comparing two last VVS versions of those planes.
Su-17M4
Range: 2,300 km
Payload: 7,200 kg
Dry thrust: 76.4 kN
Speed: 1,860 km/h
Su-27K
Range: 2,500 km
Payload: 8,100 kg
Dry thrust: 78.5 kN
Speed: 1,885 km/h
Aaron Taylor
well us did operate close to 20 if not more combat aircraft during vietnam...
Connor Walker
Not the su27 the mig27
Gavin Reyes
>Why did Soviets build both MiG-27 and Su-17?
To keep the MiG and Sukhoi plants open. The same reason why T72, T64 and T80 were all in production at the same time.
Josiah Perry
during the late 70s the t-55, t-64 t-72 and t-80 were all being manufactured in soviet factories
the t-55 was for export
t-72 was the main line of mbt which equipped most infantry and tank regiments
t-64 was the older high tech revolutionary design which equiped the best units, was still capable but the design had little room for improvement
t-80 was the high end product for tank regiments but very expensive while not offering that much of a capability boost. t-72B was pretty much better that t-80 until t-80U appeared (even it didn't really justify the much build and operating higher cost)
Joshua Howard
Wtf.....you blind fuck
Ian Anderson
Still strong
Easton Flores
They had to keep the MiG factory going while the 23 had turned out to be a bit of a turd.
Andrew Morales
>Why did Soviets build both MiG-27 and Su-17
To keep job places.
Aaron Gutierrez
and they were being made by three different design buros in three different cities that depended on the work to survive. welcome to communism.
Aiden Thomas
>welcome to communism
das rite!
i-it's not like capitalism - the country is building biggest piece of shit of an airplane since Starfighter just to keep the fucking jobs around or anything
Samuel Lee
>What was the purpose of MiG-27?
To effectively deliver precision-guided munitions in frontline range.
>Why did Soviets build both MiG-27 and Su-17?
The same reason the US built both F-4 and F-15.
>higher top speed
Absolutely irrelevant to the intended role. Su-17M4 had fixed inlet cone which has limited its maximum speed to Mach 1.7 because Soviets realized it's pointless. In later versions (M5 and M6) that were in development during the late 80s and early 90s it was planned to completely ditch variable geometry wing in favour of better subsonic performance. Same story with Su-24: it used to have speed and altitude performance similar to F-111, but its variable intakes were then removed because it was completely useless in its role of low altitude attack and SEAD aircraft.
William Peterson
>depended on the work to survive. welcome to communism.
Right, because in capitalism you don't depend on work to survive. You fucking retard.
Josiah Parker
4 factories actually
en.wikipedia.org
Adrian Wilson
>23 had turned out to be a bit of a turd
Well memed, but next time try harder.
David Hughes
They exported the living hell out of the 23, didn't they?
Jaxon Foster
Yeah, kinda was more popular than F-16.
Mason Nelson
Why did the Soviets build T64, T72, and T80 simultaneously, OP? Why did they build the T54 and T55 simultaneously?
Why did the Soviets build MiG-29 and Su-27 simultaneously? Why did the Soviets build MiG-21 and Su-9 simultaneously?
Austin Thompson
Too much pilot workload though, not enough automation
Hunter Powell
>Why did the Soviets build T64, T72, and T80 simultaneously
Because design bureaus had plenty of political influence to push their respective projects. T-72 doesn't really belong to this list though and they only produced T-64 together with T-80 for a decade or so. T-80UD was developed specifically to allow T-80 production at the local plant without developing a new tank and without wasting money introducing GTD-1000/1250 production there. Having 5 main battle tanks in service was not a consensual decision, but rather a result of politicians not being able or not willing to resolve design bureaus' shenanigans. Soviets eventually developed their ultimate MBT called Object 187 to resolve this problem, but it never saw service due to the end of the Cold War and economical crisis in Russia. Its turret was used for T-90A though.
>Why did they build the T54 and T55 simultaneously?
They didn't and it's pretty much the same thing anyway.
>Why did the Soviets build MiG-29 and Su-27 simultaneously?
Same reason as with F-16 and F-15: hi-lo fighter doctrine.
>Why did the Soviets build MiG-21 and Su-9 simultaneously?
One is a fighter, another is interceptor. Su-9 was replaced in service by Su-15 and MiG-25. MiG-21 was succeeded by MiG-23.
Bentley Bell
It was indeed more complicated to operate and maintain compared to MiG-21, but this doesn't make it a bad aircraft, since characteristics were enhanced too. It had its share of infancy problems which were eventually resolved.