Small weapons

> not a pistol - better destructive potential
> not a long gun - better concealment, handling

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>not a rifle

Case closed

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Shortbwoy.

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why velcro?

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what's even the point of this

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and now it's easy to change out - get the new one out of your pocket and simply stick it on

Fun fact - a six or seven-round Velcro shotgun card is very similar in size to a 30-round AR magazine and will fit nicely in pouches made for them.

stop making me want stuff

post side

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i see you

shockwave/tac14 master race

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i like that handstop

It makes for a good magwell grip. Might not ever sbr it

I see that Z float rail.

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Kinda funny, you did a BCM VFG and a Magpul grip, and I did a Magpul VFG and a BCM grip.

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The Z rail saved this build, I tried a bunch and nothing looked or fit right.

How long is your barrel? Mine is currently wearing a 4.5" barrel with a Fortis brake. Replaced the barrel in pic related, a 5.5" with a thread protector so I could shoot suppressed.

I'm kind of thinking about putting a 7.5" barrel with a front sight post onto an A2 upper, and cutting some round carbine handguards to fit. Loosely attach an A1 flash hider, so I can easily take it off to shoot suppressed.
How do you think that would look?

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Step Up

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ayyyy

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Counter-sniping when your primary weapon is a red dot equipped carbine. Barrel length and accuracy are not actually correlated, though velocity, of course, is. In an urban environment that velocity is not as important as having an accurate rifle that is a good optics platform.

On your lower, that would be cool.

Mine has a 4.5" BA barrel, threads are about 0.25" past the z rail so it's perfect for the suppressor mount. gtg with a thread protector. Muzzle to collapsed stock is exactly 18", getting back to the thread theme.

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Noice. I had to install my Fortis brake with the handguard off because I couldn't get the wrench on it. Mine is about 21" from the brake to the collapsed stock, but it was 19" before I put the brake on.

Just for keks, here is the A2 upper with the 5.5" barrel. RRA makes a 7.5" with a front sight post that I'm gonna get if I can sell some shit I've got for sale.

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>for the children

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Your not a pistol.
>this is a Pistol
>This is superior to your MP5 in every way except for recoil.

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>Flash and muzzle blast
>overall length
>ability to be suppressed effectively

ayyy

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Smaller caliber ammo, clearly, as children are not able to handle recoil as well as an adult.

>collapsed 25.1
>extended 30.X w11.5 inch barrel fully and stock fully extended.
>Right Propellents = no Flame tldr=Choose the right Load
>Can suppress in place as necessary.
>Need shorter quieter /setup? get a 300memeout and you drop to 23/29 and suppress to your heart's content.

>no NFA
>Locked and Loaded in Vehicle at all time ( i will admit mp5k may match here as well)
>Standard Picc rail offering much greater amount of customisation.
>not lol9mm (get MP5/10 instead)
>engaging anything with 9mm past 50yards = Fail
>not using all of your pistol ammo in your SBR
>enjoy your day.

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>Right Propellents = no Flame
I see you've never shot at night

>Not shot at Night.....
It's part of my qualifications.

>Also numerous loads that minimize fireball and flame

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Nogunz are the ones I see talking constantly about flash blindness and night shooting. It really just isn't an issue. Signature reduction techniques and technologies are available if that's a problem for you, but if you're fighting at night without nods or a light source you're already fucked, and if you're fighting at night with nods or a light source then you don't give a shit about this.

>flash blindness
This does exist. It's just not as prevalent as it used to be.

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I want to build an old ww2 sten. But i dont want to dish out all the cash for the semi auto conversion. Trying to figure how to rebuild the OG reciever.

this story is dubious, but it does demonstrate one thing - small guns are the true masterrace


> Teams of marksmen will patrol parts of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, with high-powered weapons and a license to kill, said a security adviser to state Gov.-elect Wilson Witzel.

> Bloomberg News reported Saturday that as many as 120 sharpshooters will join police patrolling the city’s slums to wipe out gun-toting criminals. The shooters will work in pairs — one pulls the trigger while the other videotapes deaths.

> “The protocol will be to immediately . . . slaughter anyone who has a rifle,” said Witzel, a federal judge and former Brazilian Marine. “Whoever has a rifle isn’t worried about other people’s lives, they’re ready to eliminate anyone who crosses their path.’’

get dat smallboi nigga, it'll save you

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Dillingers wasn’t it? In .38super?

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I'm really considering getting one of these. My 4' 10" wife likes the idea too.

>literal right wing death squads
M-merry christmas

How much did you pay for just the rifle(pistol)

Local here. They are translating "Sniper" (Which is an already english term that needs no translation) to Sharpshooter. Witzel wants literally trained snipers with rifle + scope targeting criminals that walk through streets and slums visibly armed.
Even 9mm is forbidden to the population around here. Anyone walking with a Rifle obviously deserve to be shot.

wait, you're a local and this is really happening?

Yeah, i voted for the guy. The understanding is that a criminal openly carrying a rifle in public is a danger to society, and a sniper can neutralize it without risks. He only takes the office in January. so as of today, no, we still dont have snipers headshotting criminals in slums.

Holy shit is this actually as wild as it sounds?
Just let people legally own guns ffs, they'll murder the shit out of the gangs.

where i'm at, it would be a bad law.
however, i watched Narcos, so i understand everything, completely

anyway, point is: buy small guns. Visibly armed isn't good enough.
handguns don't give you an edge over other handgun users.

Try searching on internet info on Rio de Janeiro organized crime. They are more like Guerrilla armies than the american understanding of gangs. People having guns in the past would prevent things to reach this point, but that alone wont solve it now.
Yeah, i dont think that this approach should be kept for life, but while the crime issue is not solved in the state. Hell, just go with it. Most of the population is supportive of the idea.

Never watched Narcos tough, Elite Squad (2007 movie) portray Rio de Janeiro a few decades back pretty well, check it if you desire. A lot of critics say that is over the top, but everyone from Rio will tell you that its realistic.

>Elite Squad
i'll check it

by the way, what weapons would you consider ideal?
> favella fighting
> autodefensa
> counter cartel weapon

>Favela Fighting.
>Counter Cartel Weapon.
Both are the same things, Organized Crime is entrenched in the slums, which are usually located in hills and i dont need to explain someone at Jow Forums how fucking harder that makes things.
>autodefense
I only have one pistol, but i like the idea of shotguns for home defense. Brazil gun control is tough and i cant carry, so honestly, i cant speak, but from my point of view, if you can conceal it and draw it, it is probably good enough.
>Ideal weapon for favela.
There is some people that think the police should use the thread "small weapons", because of lower penetration, less risks to innocents on those favelas and so on. The way i see it, its a war, criminals use weapons that range from old AK-47s to SCAR rifles. sending people there with worse equipment to fight an uphill battle seems to me a bad idea.

The Military and the Police had some operations on this decade that expelled criminals from Favelas, Two problems that surfaced are that, they couldnt kill criminals running away, So they let them run. and no operation was made to arrest those criminals. so eventually things went back to normal. So Tactically speaking we can strangle crime and take those favelas from them pretty easily, its most a question of being allowed to do so. (Which is why people like Witzel that are openly saying that armed criminals should be shot in sight won elections in the first place.)

jesus your dust cover is gay as fuck.

Why do people feel the need to engrave something edgy into it. complete eye sore

straight mags are a mistake.

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>be me, christmas eve 2018
>youtube suggests this video
>oh wow I've never seen this
>what the fuck, original back in 2016

>jewtube censorship actually works
>i have watched every video the NYC CNC guy has made for three years
>still never found this video

Censorship isn't cool, what are we going to do about it in 2019?

.38 super will always be a felon cartridge, it was then, it is today

the enormous fireball and concussive boom that comes out the end

fuck, i live in germany and i want such a gun so bad but our cuck-government wont allow. Whats it called again AK47 right?

is that... metal grating being used for keeping the magazine stable?

you shut your whore mouth!

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Basically
If the cartridge is so straight that you can have a straight mag, you should be doing a quad stack or a helical drum.

Straight mags are good for a classic look.

One of the inspiration videos for this

holy heck Elite Squad is amazing
thanks saudede-bro

Nice that you enjoyed it.

hey there little bruder

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> i am the flashbang

>better destructive potential
This is negligible unless you're talking about Civil Defense ammo. 800-1600 FPS has little to improve in terminal ballistics.

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> what is bracing for faster follow-on shots
> what is sight aquisition
> what is aiming
> what is a magazines bigger than 17
looks like more dakka to me, even without +p+


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Literally what is the difference between 9mm and 5.56 in that respect? Sure, cost is a benefit, but besides that, you might as well say a PCC is nothing but fun.

5.56 is pointless from a 4 inch barrel (if it can be made to work reliably), and 9mm is pointless from anything over a 5" barrel. So there's a gap there right? In other words, you wouldn't want a rifle length 9mm and you wouldn't want a pistol length 5.56, so each of them have a place.

I think 9mm actually stops gaining velocity from 10"+. 5.56 is still at least on par with 9mm at 5+".

Actually 5.56 is far worse than 9mm out of pistol length barrels. It drops to sub 1500 fps.

At pistol length. Just past that, it's putting out 500+ ft/lbs which is garbage for 5.56, but spectacular for pistol calibers. At 8 inches, it's outshining anything short of .44 mag.

Never mind the fact that all $2K+ SBR snipers are instantly outclassed by an $800 .308 Saiga with a bullpup kit

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>I voted for the guy
May your chains rest lightly upon you

And that's why my 1894 with an RMR is my primary defensive gun against burglars or beasts.
>the .308 is for tyrants

From what I understand it was either Brazilian Weeaboo Trump or a literal Communist.

>keymod
Good thing that your opinion doesn't matter

No chains for him, he's probably not a degenerate homosexual, socialist, or criminal.
Bolsonaro is going to loosen gun ownership laws for civilians.

>I'm not X, so it doesn't effect me
ya, not how tyranny works, my bluepilled negro

Killing commies, coons, and kikes is necessary for the remainder to be free in the long run, dumb lolbert.

Is that a PTR? How do you like it? I'm considering that for my next gun because WA is going full retard on rifles and that's a """pistol""".

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Nice klobb friend, i also dig the ratty aesthetic of that stendo

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It is a PTR and it's very nice. Almost no recoil and no issues with it other than a single ammo related malfunction in about 3k rounds. The HK slap makes my peepee the big peepee and the """brace""" functions """just as intended""". People bitch about the rail, but I like a red dot on mine so it's not huge deal.

Cool, I've got a rifle sized RDS in need of a good home already.
>fun fact, putting one on a straight stocked lever gun results in "beard weld"

Niceu. Don't be afraid to let your inner 14 year old out and tacticool it with amazon chinesium for funsies. 9mm roller delayed recoil means nothing ever breaks on it.

K thinks smgs/Pccs are useless because of the “obsolete” belief, but in all reality, SWATboi with the MP5 would make embarrass strelok with his overpriced collection of redundant ARs and 1911s

The glory of capitalism is you can have both.

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