Is it more common for soldiers to wear their blade across the chest or on the hip?

"why are we here... just to suffer?"

wooo...WWWOOOOAAAAAAA~!!!

A folding knife clipped in your pocket is better for utility and good enough as a emergency backup weapon that you'll never use.

I'm sorry, I meant a "telephone colonel"

When I was deployed I just saw a bunch of nerds with their knives tied to their armor's left shoulder strap.

Just another piece of gear to serialize and get lost. I had a KaBar the entire time I was in that I wore innadesert. Never used it for anything I couldn’t use my benchmade for. It was more of a legacy thing honestly.

I got issued a knife as did my entire unit. Maybe you were just a POG.

I wore mine on my flak on the front because I didnt want it getting launched from my belt into my armpit at 800 fps when I stepped on an IED.

Light colonel is another to call a lieutenant colonel you fucking fag

Randall 14 patrician tier.

I was mortars, but no one in our entire battalion got issues knives. Another battalion in our regiment got bayonets though. I know of a POG wing unit that all got Benchmades.

I was issues a Gerber LMF II infantry knife when I deployed. Carried it handle down in my left shoulder. It was easier and quicker to draw than my strap cutter when my truck was hit by an IED.

Also used it to get my point across to some inbred ANA motherfucker when he wouldn't stop flagging my team with his fucking AK.

were you with dirtybums or 60's?

Holy Never served detected

Sk8y ones

Shit meant to reply to this one. Phoneposting is gay.

Hold up, you mean we've gotten to the point where fixed knives are actually just a meme/fashion accessory?

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I assume they have a role for camping and hunting. But for combat their time is past.

I was a machine-dumber.

>left shoulder handle down
Peak aesthetic!

Nope.
When I was in Ramadi in 2007-2008, we had a guy who got a knife kill with his Ka-Bar.

CAFfag here, we wear them hilt up centre of the chest. uncomfortable as fuck.

My friend who got the knife kill had it set up on his shoulder. It allowed for a quicler draw. He says it saved his life.

Can you Greentext the story?

it's a fucking poser thing to wear it on the chest, you don't need the fucking thing anyways. anyone who claims otherwise is stupid. a good, small knife is always usefull, a bayonet is literally nothing but ballast. the dude in the op is not even the worst, the worst ones are those who put their bayonets upside down on the shoulderstrap, like they were fucking schwarzenegger hunting the predator or something

Maybe feeling like the baddest dude in the country is worth a bit of extra weight

there have been instances of hand to hand combat, most notably in fallujah where a marine managed to loosen his chest plate and smash the skull of a jihadi in hand to hand combat

>the worst ones are those who put their bayonets upside down on the shoulder strap

I wonder why people do this?

>natural fisticuff defensive stance has hands up to protect head
>blade on shoulder straps puts it in a good position so you dont have to drop your guard on one side for to long to fetch the blade
>blade towards the ground puts it in a good orientation to slip in in behind their clavicle as soon as it is drawn

Im no combatoves expert, but seems like a good thing to me. On paper at least.

why's his helmet so smol

like i said, in reality your bayonet is useless and ballast. might be true that it's super useful in your hypothetical self defence situation, which has not much to do with the reality of what soldiers actually do these days, in reality it's just a poser thing that people who like to show off do. maybe to impress iraqi street children, i don't know. those are probably the only ones impressed by a huge useless bayonet strapped to your chest. there's many better things you could put on that chest rig that you might actually find a real use for.

>I wonder why people do this?

It was a cool thing in the 80s and 90s because it was a good place to put a knife on with Vietnam War webgear, and since thermals didn't exist, radios were 1 per platoon, and NODs were rare as hell at the time, a knife was potentially useful at night.

>have knife or gun on chest plate
>while detaining prisoners

It’s a giant “grab me” sign to people you were detaining that had more balls than sense

They issued pure khaki BDU's? When? That's pretty cool.

it's not a knife, it's a bayonet. you can dig a hole with one of those or stab someone in the neck with a lot of force if you put it on a rifle and use it like a spear, but trying to use it as an actual knife won't work. you can't cut anything with it, literally nothing. and they're usually not even pointy at all, iirc to inflict higher damage if it's actually used as intended. bayonets are fucking useless, they have been for decades now.

>soldier
that theres a marine
Damn sir be all fucked up soup sandwich bubbles lookin ass
>dumbass knife like that he ain't never going to use it anyway shit ain't even fuckin secured there high speed
>dick flap wrong size for his armor
>d rings just placed on there haphazardly and improperly, not even using them

Also, it's worth noting that this picture wasn't even taken in the sandbox. That's California. 3rd Naval Construction Regiment, Port Hueneme, CA. Pretty much just Oxnard, just a smidge up the coast from Los Angeles.

What's the point of serving (((their agenda))) if you don't look good while doing it?

>implying jews give a fuck about a-stan
If they really were in control they would have us buttfucking Iran

I disagree, I think a combat knife is just the upper end of useful before you cross into try hard territory. I used my CFK for shit every day as a tool. As a weapon they are pretty unlikley to ever be used but for cutting seatbelts on blown up trucks, opening crates, cutting parachord etc etc they were wonderful, and they had the added benifit of being a weapon in the infinitismally unlikley event you had to use it for that.

Tryhards carry those dumbass tomahawks or some flashy gay shit like a kukris or a machete.

How is killing Hadjis and drawing their attention and hate onto the US not a part of the Jewish agenda?

I once saw a 42A with not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 karambits on his flc

They were trying hard on Iran, and they did manage to get us into Syria.

i love how you people manage to bend literally everything happening in the world into fitting in some jewish world conspiracy

how much of that is real, and how much is memes gone too far?

>be 2007-2008
>guy had knife
>stabbed guy
>he died

We were told not to wear it on the chest because if you ever got into the extremly unliekly situation of hand to hand close combat your opponent will see it instantly and it will be just as, if not easier for him to grab it then for you to do so.

That said its such an unliekly situation nobody really cared.

All meme for me baby.

You fucking fools, ignoring the only REAL Jewish conspiracy: The Hot Dog Conspiracy. Hebrew National Hot Dogs have been decreasing the amount of hot dogs you get over the years. They started at 8, which is the righteous number because hot dog buns come in 8 packs. But the fucking jews have ben decreasing the amount of hotd ogs they sell you. Now it's 6 per pack. So you have to keep buying disproportionate amounts of hot dogs and hot dog buns. You pretty much have to keep buying them.

>youtube.com/watch?v=R4ydRsgNWO4

all those stabbings in israel back then, none of those evolved into badass melee fights, they all either ended with the attacker being shot or israeli soldiers being stabbed

a bayonet, or even a knife at that, strapped to your chest for self defence purposes is just bullshit. might boost the size of your balls and your subjective feeling of safety, but that's it

I carried a CRKT folder and that was it, mainly as an emergency mine prod, because our into was too povo to give everyone the fiberglass ones.
It was useful as tool, and I did use it to cuts straps once and I suppose if I ever needed it I could fight with it, but I carried a styer, so my plan for close combat was to bludgeon people with it.
The folder just sat in a molle loop on the side and in between may pouches.
I knew some guys that swore by the issues bayonet, but it was just extra weight to me.

>not knowing about oil on the Golan Heights and who's on the board of the energy companies developing it

Look at a map sometime.

As prejudiced as I am against Jow Forums-tards, the anti-conspiracy-posters are usually worse.

This is Mosad. Stay right fucking there. We'll be coming through you wall in about 30 seconds.

tomahawks are some gay shit but machetes have an actual fieldcraft purposes in certain environs and in those environs it's no more tryhard than a mattock or shovel

kukris are basically small machetes and once again in the proper biome can be legit but if you're not a ghurka you're probably a faggot.

yeah, i bet you have a large folder full of colorful memes and pictures you and your friends at Jow Forums keep reposting to each other a hundred times a day every day, proving the whole thing is run by jews. and has always been run by jews. and we're all fucking retarded cucks for not believing your proofs

You'll never take me alive jew-boy!

Quick question, do people in Israel also call cops pigs? Because of the jew thing

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy
>tfw you learn Wikipedia is a Jow Forums conspiracy

>goaln heights
But that's Israeli soldiers up in there not Americans ya dummy

I had a tomahawk/prybar thing I used inadesert to get into shit or go through doors. It was handy and beat carrying multiple tools in my bag. Also intimidated the fuck out of Hadjis when I started swinging that thing around.

>can

they could, if modern warfare would take place in those right environments, but it doesn't. it all happens in deserts or at least very hot, scarcely vegetated places. there's literally nothing a bayonet or machete could do for you that could not be done way better and more handy by some other tool in those places

yeah, we went on a convoy escort from duire to leatherneck and it was all the pogs first time outside the wire. They all looked like walking gear dumps and I saw machetes, tomahawks, and even a kukris.

Americans are farther north providing the operational room for Israelis to cordon off the area; and Americans are providing the fracking technology and corporate governance to the Israeli companies that handle local development.

i wasn't talking about that specific fact, i was referring to your idiotic conclussions and antisemitic fantasies that follow.
and yes, there's also many jews in other powerful positions, but for different reasons than you want to believe.

I'll always take extra ammo/water over some dumb fuckin gear that won't get used. I'm a thirsty boy, I need my water.

The Brits had a few bayonet charges in Iraq that worked.

Bayonets are still relevant.

everything is theoretically still relevant, martial arts, bayonet charges, whatever it is, it could still be usefull in some weird incidents somewhere in afghanistan.

also, iirc that bayonet charge would also have worked without the bayonets, they were overwhelming and surprising those taliban by charging

Exactly. If I was carrying extra anything on patrol it was extra ammo, extra water, and extra batteries. Even then, that was only when I couldn't get away with carrying less shit around.

>Also intimidated the fuck out of Hadjis when I started swinging that thing around.

>ywn be the Iceman's Native American brother, Tomahawk Missile
>ywn paint your face and scalp hadjis
>ywn charge into battle with Iceman and his meme officer sword

feels bad man

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sounds like a halligan entry tool. it's a standard piece of kit for firefighters but I can certainly see it having military

some dudes would get dry ice somehow and have a spare canteen full of dry ice chunks to put on their necks

Rah. I miss shooting machine guns. I’d pay a bit to be able to sit behind a deuce again.

it's common in the military too. every team/squad/truck will have one in a breach kit, along with bolt cutters, a sledgehammer, etc

would you also pay for carrying that shit and tons of ammo through the desert?

I never saw that one, we just sweated it out. If we had a mounted satellite patrol we'd stuff water bottles inside the MRAPs AC unit and have cold water whenever we caught up to em.

me too, I loved the duece. But honestly, if I could own my dream gun it would be the 240B with an MDO mounted.

I paid for it with my knees and spine already.

cold babywipes on your hot sweaty balls and gooch was the best feeling ever to cool down

naw, I got ya one better. That athletes foot aerosol spray. Its propellant is cold as fuck, you put that thing down in yer trousers and gave it a blast and it was like getting a blowjob from mother winter, plus its antifungal so it prevents crotch-rot.

The only reason to wear it on your chest is if you're sitting in a vehicle and cannot reach a blade for an emergency. It's important when I'm sealed into a kayak at the waist and underwater, but not so much in a car with a gun.

You do you boo boo but I'm not putting anything labelled "foot" near my goodies. And you won't have a problem with crotch rot if you stay away from desert queens

Based and meatpilled

Wore mine on my hip.

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crotch rot is when the same fungus that causes athletes foot colonises your ballsack, so using athletes foot spray makes perfect sense. Its just fine talcum powder with a wee bit of antifungal in it. Good shit. Especially if youve ever spent a week with your scrotum on fire.

I mean I caught chlamydia once but that was AFTER I got out of the army

breh thats a flight suit

You mount stuff on your chest if you are vehicle mounted and reaching your hip is difficult...so most put pistols, or ammo there.

I'd only have a knife chest mounted side ways if it had one if those carbide window breakers...which will be completely useless on military vehicle glass.

Some para units have knives mounted upside down for cutting yourself free, but is not better in melee because it's easy for an enemy to grab from front or behind.

>deserts

I was in Kunar and Nuristan. It aint no jungle but there was plenty of vegetation.

Personally, I would never deploy without a decent fixed blade. Yes you probably won't use it for anything other than opening MREs but its an essential survival tool, imo better to have it and not need it especially when the cost is a few extra ounces.

>bayonets aren't supposed to be sharp fuddlore
Just fucking stop, that's not true for modern bayonets and never has been. My surplus M7 came out of the box razor sharp and cuts better than my kitchen knives do.

It's a flight suit dumbass

Why the fuck is he wearing a flight suit if he was seabees

HSLD BREH

dude was literally a cop from texas who joined the marines and ended up in charge of sailors and was walking around in a tan onesie like could he get any gayer

Never served detected

>idiot who probably thought a training bayonet was real

Lel

Stuff like this is generally frowned upon now.

In the pre-deployment ROE briefing they even tell you that only weapons provided by the military are allowed because they have been tested and vetted as being in accordance with the laws of land warfare.