Is it true that Roman military weren't able to use cavalry effectively?

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>in 2019
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Very few civilizations used cavalry for anything other than scouting.
If you take away elephants, it drops to nearly none.

The Battle of Leuctra, which was the first time the Spartans lost in battle, was the first time in recorded history that cavalry was used tactically.
And most civilizations that would last in the ancient world would be sea based civilizations that did not have the needed agriculture or open land to support cavalry even being a normal part of the society to begin with.
Which is why the Egyptians were the only people to really incorporate them into their armies until much later.

Cavalry is also expensive as fuck, even today.

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Probably the lack of stirrups.

That is as close as we are getting to the hydraluis on Jow Forums so I'll take it

Alexander the Great had effective cavalry tactics without stirrups

Don't you dare mention that name itt

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Roman calvary had a pretty good success rate actually, they were just usually small in number and upon moving East were generally outclassed when they hit more calvary centric armies.

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No, it isn't true. The Romans used their superior cavalry at Zama to defeat Hannibal.

The Romans aren't known for their cavalry because Romans proper weren't cavalrymen. They didn't have a tradition of cavalry combat and it didn't fit their method of warfare well. What passed as "heavy cavalry" in the ancient era would be light skirmishers by medieval standards.

Cavalry were typically Auxiliaries and the Roman contemporary stereotype for the Auxiliaries is that they were shit.
You people are buying into a stereotype that's over 2000 years old.

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Not even, the Romans beat the Parthians all the time. They lost one famous crushing defeat due to a combination of the enemy general's genius and their general's incompetence but that's all anyone remembers.

no they just didn't have enough of it until it was too late

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and to answer OP, the Romans knew how to use cavalry. Problem was, so did their enemy and usually the enemy cavalry was purely nobles or locals who spent their ENTIRE lives in the saddle. Roman cavalry units were usually just semi-rich Romans arming themselves in the name of the Republic. After the Empire rose, they started using more and more auxiliary cavalry which helped some... but then they faced more and more steppe peoples who could out-horse anyone

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The Romans did use cavalry throughout the imperial period, and in the medieval era the Byzantines used cavalry extensively with their cataphracts being one of the most effective cavalries of the day.

It's just that when we think of Roman military history we usually think about the Republican era, and back then horses weren't deployed in the same way simply because horses were much smaller than they've been for the past thousand years or so. They literally just didn't evolve to be the size they are now yet. This is also why chariots fell out of fashion.

Italy is mostly mountains. Not exactly the best place for horse riding.

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>gets fucking nuked lmao

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Chariots turned out to be not so hot against men who didn't turn and run against them. Professionalism is really what killed them.

That's not entirely true, after the WRE fell and professional armies wouldn't return until the modern era chariots never made a comeback. Because by this point horses had been bred to become the giant hulking beasts we know today and having a chariot attached to them was just a redundant liability compared to sitting on top of the horse.

>>fuck you matpat
>>gets fucking nuked lmao
What?

Ubiquity of iron weapons killed the specialized chariot like fielding thousands of bowmen killed heavy knights thousands of years later.
Democratization of force kills the noble warrior castes.

user is quoting the image he replied to.

True, but they were obsolete even before truly heavy cavalry. Just a lightly (by later standards) equipped cavalryman on a small horse is a more effective military force than a chariot.

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Calvalry was massively important to every other culture. Basically everything east of the alps used horse archers and or cataphracts. Most of the other armies basically used their cavalry to flank for a pincer attack with infantry and to scare off archers/skirmishers before roman military dominance. Even sea faring people had a huge domestic thing for horses and agriculture.

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> L S S G I S T I K
What the fuck is this gay shit, I can't even read it. You could also just say "αβουτ" and it would have made sense if you used ancient greek spellings.

Why all the θ's;;;; γαμώτω νιγkερ, αυτό είναι γkαι πολύ
τώρα εχώ ΑΙΔΣ. σαν πραγγματιkο αυτό είναι πολύ kαkό. ω Θεέ μου. Αυτιστιkό

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>hoplite
>gayyyyy
>lies about how great she is
>"300" more like "7000"
>all factions were dicks
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>[AESTHETIC]
Pretty clear desu.
But I can't read what are you trying to say, so I consider your spelling to be worse.

I’m just here for the centurion

Ah, yours was actual Greek?
Well there's the problem.
You need to know an additional language to understand it, wouldn't work for a picture used in an English-speaking segment of the Internet.

Since you know Greek, what the fuck does say?

Go back to your cabbage farm, fag.

No I just hate the way we use the Greek alphabet, it's really cringy and is honestly overplayed. Imagine that faggot that says "desu" and "kawaii" in real lif, the Japanese look at that like the Greeks do with our incorrect use of their letters.

It's not that hard to use Google friend but here you go, a free lesson in Greek. A civilized man's language for the ones who wish to go into a lifetime of debt and butthurtness over Turks.
θ makes the "th" sound
χ makes the "kh" arabic sandnigger sound.
ρ makes the "r" sound
η makes the "i' sound
Λ makes the "l" sound
ψ makes the "ps" sound

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>I’m just here for the centurion
A fellow man of culture I see.

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"[A] Greek/Hellenistic Spartan Hoplite."

It's easy to forget about the rough breathing that make letters have the "h" at the beginning. Otherwise it would be "Oplite" thankfully I know some Modern and Ancient Greek.

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Basically Romans aren't really experienced with cavalry and mainly preferred foot combat. This is further compounded by the fact they found it easier to hire auxiliaries to do the actual cavalry work.

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One of the reasons Kaisar took Gaulic(Gaulian?) cavalry to attempt to conquer Britain was to take away the leadership of the Gauls and also reinforce their cavalry. I think Gaulic cavalry made up 30-40% of the entire cavalry Kaisar brought.

Did he succeed in taking away that leadership long enough for him to have firmer control or did it blow back in his face?

I'm not really sure, here's the video series.
I think he was successful but those pesky Gauls kept being unruly to the right heirs of Evropa.

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He was forced to withdrawl from Britain after a few token victories because he had to deal with the Gauls who were getting a little too uppity. Ceaser never went back and Rome as a whole didn't return to Britian for nearly a century.

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I suppose.

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Ah fuck, I'm gonna get suicided in the back with three swords.