Going to be traveling to alaska this year, want to bring a rifle or handgun for bear protection.
But heres the thing, there is a stop/layover in California on the way, I want to avoid the clusterfuck that is travelling with a gun.
can I go to alaska and just buy another long gun, It's easy enough to mail home then to myself.
Peaceable journey laws say you should be fine, but I remember a case a few years ago where New York ignored them and arrested a guy.
>Peaceable journey laws say you should be fine,
I should be, but googling turns up numerous cases of people being arrested and charged, I'd rather just fork out the dough just to avoid the BS of flying with one altogether.
Ship it to an FFL at your destination. Would probably cost less than baggage fees.
Prob just get one here tbqhf, mosin carbines are still like 175 up here. Shits cool.
I'm telling you from my extremely recent experience of flying into California with both a long gun and pistol, neither of which were CA compliant, it wasn't any different than checking my normal luggage.
The key is to carry your locked, hard sided firearm cases inside your larger luggage case. It takes another half hour at most to get your firearm checked. Your end of journey is in Alaska, you're completely fine. Don't let the fuckups in CA stress out your travel plans.
If you take possession of your baggage they will arrest you on the spot. IIRC everybody that has gotten fucked has lost their peacable journey protection because they took possession of their firearms in a ban state.
>Aka stop in NJ for a layover
>Flight gets delayed so airline puts you up in a hotel
>Get arrested as soon as you leave for the hotel with your baggage.
Wat really
>But heres the thing, there is a stop/layover in California on the way
What exactly is it that you plan to take with you that isn't California-legal?
I'll take Shit That Never Happened for $1000, Alex.
What isn't illegal in California?
Think I heard you have to be the resident of the state to buy a gun in it. But that could be fuddlore
I think that is pistols only.
Lots of stuff. Our gun laws are bad enough without exaggerating them. Unless you’re bringing something that violates the state AWB with you, you have nothing to worry about.
if you want to buy from a store you are going to need an Alaska ID of some sort
you can buy privately all you want, just be careful
>Unless you bring a standard rifle that violates our commie laws, or a handgun that isn't on the registry, or countless other things that violate laws and make you a felon you have nothing to worry about.
Promptly kys.
tell that to the people who's lives have been ruined for being arrested for unregistered guns in a layover cucked state.
We traded machineguns for FOPA, fight them OP
Why do you need an Alaskan ID?
Bring a 10mm glock or a .500 sw.
T. ex alaska user
I don't think you realize the cost of shipping to Alaska. That plus FFL transfer fee is definitely more than the $50 for a second bag
Did I write the laws? Then what are you mad at me for?
Also, that's not how the handgun roster works. Possession of an off-roster handgun is perfectly legal in California. It's a whitelist of guns you can buy new at retail, not that you can own. There's a difference.
>tell that to the people who's lives have been ruined for being arrested for unregistered guns in a layover cucked state.
If you're talking about an airline layover, I don't believe that it's ever actually happened. Traffic stops, yes, but airline? I'll have to see evidence of that.
>I accept my commie laws, and I'm not a commie because there are exceptions!!!
Promptly kys.
>>I accept my commie laws
I don't find them acceptable at all. Somehow, oddly enough, this seems not to have any effect at all on how our governor or attorney general approach them. If you know how to change that, please clue me in.
Anyhow, if your advice to OP is DO NOT COMPLY, then fine, that's what it is, and he can decide whether he wants to take that advice or not. If he decides that he doesn't want to, then I'm more than happy to help him understand the relevant legalities.
He definitely wont have any problems if he's on a layover, if there is a problem with the plane and they give him back his luggage now he's fucked, cant check back in without it being inspected.
A random stop/layover is nothing, No airline is going to give out baggage and then recheck it all during a layover lmao.
>But heres the thing, there is a stop/layover in California on the way,
gassing up the plane before heading over the ocean the rest of the way, you won't see your luggage until you land in alaska.
I won't bother to protest or change the laws that violate my second amendment rights because it is what it is. Rather I've done my research on how to comply with these laws in the most cucked way possible.
promptly kys
It's happened in new Jersey a couple times, people getting arrested for having legal firearms that are illegal in new Jersey.
I don't think it's happened in California but I don't know for sure.
>if there is a problem with the plane and they give him back his luggage now he's fucked, cant check back in without it being inspected
Inspected by who? TSA isn't empowered to enforce state gun laws, and aren't even trained on what those laws are. An airline employee ratting you out sounds like a good way for them to get fired (t: ex-airline employee). The regular cops need a warrant to search your luggage, and won't get it if you're otherwise law-abiding.
I've never seen a documented case of anything like this happening. Again, it's happened at traffic stops, but on an airline layover? I don't believe it.
If his bags "get inspected" they'd have to be opened by local PD. On top of that, unless local PD waiting for them to pick a bag up they won't get bothered by anyone else. TSA certainly isn't going to do a damn thing.
T. Federal Butt-Toucher
>I won't bother to protest or change the laws that violate my second amendment rights because it is what it is
There are pro-2A protests in California all the time. They haven't changed Gavin Newsom's mind yet, though.
I always imagined a 10mm glock would be choice for alaska
What kind of loads do you use? Hard cast or HP?
Interesting. So I guess it did happen once. It also seems to have resulted in the charges being dismissed and the state getting sued, so I doubt it will happen again.
Hollow point? For wild life defense? Out of a handgun?? I guess if your main concern is wolves or similar sized animals.
>t.never flown
Do you know what happens when you try to board a airplane or hand over luggage?
Op I fly with guns a lot. and yes through cucked states and countries.
Go to airport early go to counter fill out firearms declaration then get escorted to TSA guy who inspects and puts carbon copy inside. Then you lock it back up. Then you retrieve bag on other end. some airports it will be in the regular baggage area some in the special bagging pickup. you can also have ammo as long as it meets the requirement and the plastic reloading boxes meet those requirements if you are bringing custom ammo.
that's why I'm asking pal
I take your condescending reply to be a no for HP
You'd be suprised
usacarry.com
To respond to the story of the NJ guy being arrested it is because he is a fucking idiot. If you are delayed the airport and TSA are to keep custody of the firearm containing luggage until final destination. They keep in in their luggage area where you have to go in and show ID to claim area.
So unless you are a moron and go to the special area Show your ID sign the case out ,leave the Federal zone that all airports are. and then go into the State that your firearm is banned in and then do something dumb to attract the attention of the cops to arrest you.
If you do all of the above yes you can be arrested.
I had a flight 24 delay with my 50BMG in California and had zero problems because I am not an idiot. I also had specific insurance on that luggage because it worth over 10K and I did not want problems if it did get lost.
People make it out to be a much bigger deal than it is because they want their own version of fuddlore.
Do your homework before you fling shit. Believe it or not, others might have knowledge you don't.
>If you're talking about an airline layover, I don't believe that it's ever actually happened. Traffic stops, yes, but airline? I'll have to see evidence of that
It's past your bedtime, you have school tomorrow.
You were probably 8 when this happened:
foxnews.com
>you will never publicly execute the lawmakers that allowed this to happen
I think public execution is too humane for them desu, this just makes my fucking blood boil
ATF has a section in their FAQ. You're allowed to ship a gun to your own hotel room or other destination before you travel to it, no FFL necessary.
Just make sure your name is listed as the recipient.
Identify one of those people on a layover in California who was arrested for carrying an unregistered firearm.
This is the only good advice in this thread
>changes the argument
Guess I won that one, try not debating a lost argument next time.
>If you do all of the above yes you can be arrested.
what happens when the terminal closes and you gotta leave.
>If you are delayed the airport and TSA are to keep custody of the firearm containing luggage until final destination. They keep in in their luggage area where you have to go in and show ID to claim area.
you don't wanna use hard cast in a glock barrel.
use FMJ. plenty of penetrationi
NY has arrested people for magazines many times. John Stossel did a thing on it.