>The probe exposes how personal distrust led the officer of the deck, Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock, to avoid communicating with the destroyer’s electronic nerve center — the combat information center, or CIC — while the Fitzgerald tried to cross a shipping superhighway.
>When Fort walked into the trash-strewn CIC in the wake of the disaster, he was hit with the acrid smell of urine. He saw kettlebells on the floor and [b]bottles filled with pee[/b]. Some radar controls didn’t work and he soon discovered crew members [i]who didn’t know how to use them anyway[/i].
>trash-strewn CIC in the wake of the disaster, he was hit with the acrid smell of urine. He saw kettlebells on the floor and [b]bottles filled with pee[/b]. Ok, which one of you fags was it?
Sebastian Reed
Took his neet lifestyle with him when he enlisted.
Aiden Smith
>he is unironically on a small boy Don’t puke up your lunch shiplets.
Michael Clark
>Ok, which one of you fags was it? Me
Adam Butler
>Some radar controls didn’t work and he soon discovered crew members who didn’t know how to use them anyway Shouldn't a commanding officer look under the hood —or in this case, the deck— once in a while to check that things work?
Russian bot propaganda usa #1 unbeatable shill vatnik.
Andrew Russell
When did the us navy become such a shit show. Even the US coast guard is run better than that.
Samuel Howard
This is what happens when it becomes morally unacceptable to expect and enforce high discipline. When subordiantes can sue you for manhandling them when they fuck up or if you call them the wrong pronoum then demoralization sets in and everyone stop caring what happens outside their shrinking bubble.
Jaxson Long
At least the damage control aboard the US destroyers involved in accidents has been good. If the American sailors are considered to be some of the best then imagine how others, which are considered worse, would handle the situation. Still, Seventh Fleet rightfully had some heads roll because it was seeming like a consistent lapse in training, certification, and supervision in some areas.
When discipline was dropped and destroyed in favor of not hurting the feelings of niggers and women. When ships began running their schedules to the bone thanks to a lack of personnel, leading to consistent 12-14 days, 7 days a week. When crewmen were often denied shore leave on spurious reasoning, just to make up labor shortfalls. When officers were disallowed to peer review candidates during training. Jim Webb covered that one decades ago.
Like, women *can* do Navy stuff. Thats not the issue. The issue is the politics around them, and the refusal to enforce discipline and hygiene. When the stupid THOTs start lushing tampons and pads down the drain, clogging everything up, you aren't allowed to force them to clean it up and march them across deck with the filth.
So for the women who were capable and proud to serve, they were just used as leverage so the retarded THOTs could get in and crap all over everything. And so now, the capable, smart, patriotic, and non-deluded? Never join the military. And anyone who gets disillusioned and manages to break conditioning, leaves ASAP.
Jayden Williams
i m p r e s s i v e
Wyatt Sullivan
>[Takes inward swinging hatch to face]
Carter Collins
the 7th fleet specifically. It's pre-ww2 us navy all over again.
Josiah Barnes
I still bet that the PLAN is better at disciplining their enlisted and officers than the USN.
I bet they still have keelhauling as punishment for fuck ups.
Ryder Martin
>>When Fort walked into the trash-strewn CIC in the wake of the disaster, he was hit with the acrid smell of urine. He saw kettlebells on the floor and [b]bottles filled with pee[/b]. Some radar controls didn’t work and he soon discovered crew members [i]who didn’t know how to use them anyway[/i].
Sounds just like Jow Forums
Kayden Clark
>Trying to [b] and [i] on Jow Forums FUCK OFF CROSSPOSTERS
Hunter Gonzalez
Damn...I hate to say it but that's some clean clear sea water with almost clear visibility to that damn frigate..
Matthew Morris
All the navy guys I know talk about how much backstabbing bullshit goes on, how fucking horrible their chiefs are, and how the officers are in a completely other world of ass-kissing and politics to even know how to read enlisted name-tapes. Is the navy really that bad?
Juan Morgan
>When did the us navy become such a shit show (((Diversity is our strength))) Can't have a strong military without women and brown people.
Xavier James
USN's one of the biggest jokes ever. And a massive paper tiger. They're only good for fighting caveman-tier nations.
>I cant believe Chang was right all along. No you weren’t, Chang. Our problems come from a failure to adhere to doctrine. Your problems start with the design of your ships, and it only gets worse from there.
Levi Turner
I dont know about that...
-Evidence for USN discipline problems: Exist
-Evidence for PLAN ship-design problems: Dont Exist.
Noah Ortiz
I know, but it's a cool looking picture. Sunken ships always look fascinating.
Dylan Roberts
Your problems come from the fact that room temp iq subhumans are almost a majority of your citizenry and women have taken over your government. Dont expect things to get better ever.
Asher Robinson
>failure to adhere to doctrine. A ship that works completely right and will launch a missile at itself if the subhuman at the helm accidentally tells it to is far worse than a ship that's a little bit too unrefined.
Jacob Moore
Why doesnt the us military take a few pages from the armies in south america and africa and stick to speedboats since its obvious the us doesnt have the genetic ability to handle carriers or missile cruisers anymore.
Ryder Lee
>you aren't allowed to force them to clean it up and march them across deck with the filth. That sounds like a Navy problem. The first time I had to fish a tangle of tampons out of a shitter, I tossed the stinking bloody mess on the table in the female dayroom. Problem solved. On the second ship I was on that had mixed crew, the same problem cropped up. First, I sent my striker to fix the shitter to increase his fund of technical knowledge. While he was doing that, I had a chat with my chief about how to address the underlying issue. He took it from there. Next morning, the senior enlisted female aboard reported to the DC shop for a 2 hour tutorial on how to fix shitters. After that, she was responsible for the proper functioning of the shitters in the head in female berthing.
t. Retired Coastie DC.
James Evans
Was this in the sixties dude? Shit like that'll earn you a court martial nowadays.
William Adams
Probably 80s, right when the whores started in, and the trash began infecting the place.
Alexander Walker
When the military started pushing affirmative action.
Yeah I'm current CG and if you tried that shit today you'd find yourself dealing with allegations of sexism and hazing.
That said our issues don't seem near as bad as the Navy's because we actually do our jobs day to day, rather than just cruising around the ocean or bullshiting for 18 months while drydocked.
IT'S 2019. GET OFF THE BOATS, LITTLE BOYS. Good lord.
Owen Johnson
Here’s my plan to fix the military. Make the military a meritocracy again. Outlaw affirmative action. Outlaw race and gender quotas. Raise the female physical standards to equal men’s. That would get rid of 99% of females in the military. Good riddance. Get rid of all political correctness "training". Abolish all sensitivity brainwashing. Ban females from combat roles. Ban mentally ill eunuchs. Period.
End the wars in the middle east and bring all our soldiers home. Completely militarize the southern border. Order the Army to guard the border and the Army Corp of Engineers to build the Wall. Order the military to deport all illegals at once. No trials, no detention, no room or boarding. Just march them to the border and tell them to keep walking. How hard is that?
Arrest and court martial the entire chain of command responsible for forcing soldiers to wear high heels. That was an illegal order meant to shame and dishonor our troops. Make an example out of the scum that gave that order.
Make Navy warship names great again. Stop naming them after fucking politicians. Give them names with gravitas. Defiant, Reliant, Resolute, Retribution, Relentless, Reciprocity, Valiant, Vigilant, Vengeance, etc.
>Evidence for USN discipline problems: >Exist Which is a failure to adhere to doctrine, you pinheaded, slant eyed fuck.
>Evidence for PLAN ship-design problems: >Dont Exist. Oh, did your CIDF bots manage to scrub all of the copies of that vid of the PLAN sailor collecting his medical retirement from the watertight door that was installed backwards? Remember the one I’m talking about? You shills went into overdrive, calling it a minor problem, and that it had already been fixed across the entire class. Type 52C, iirc. Stupid, simple shit like that is what sinks ships, Hop Sing. Then there’s the fact that you shills were continuously braying about how the PLAN was building their ships to commercial standards to keep costs down. The speed with which you guys have been pumping out new hulls verifies that particular nugget of information. Then there’s the official propaganda pics you guys have posted of your CIC spaces, with watchstanders sitting on folding auditorium chairs. And don’t even get me started on the missile hazards and gear adrift abundantly evident in every one of your propaganda pics. And wooden trim on the mess decks? Who the fuck does that? That’s a cascading casualty scenario just waiting to happen, Horatio.
Yeah, there’s a fucking metric fuckton of Chink design problems, with volumes of supporting evidence. You guys are just too stupid to see it. You’ll find out, soon enough, Ping.
Austin Wood
Samefag
Logan Rodriguez
>Give them names with gravitas. Defiant, Reliant, Resolute, Retribution, Relentless, Reciprocity, Valiant, Vigilant, Vengeance, etc. For what purpose? I mean, sure, there's no point in naming a warship after a politician who's sole accomplishment in office is getting shot in the head, but there are plenty of names to honor without having to pull this kind of cringy bullshit. This is the US Navy in 2019, not the Royal Navy in 1819.
Dylan Watson
>launch a missile at itself if the subhuman at the helm accidentally tells it to Your ignorance of how a ship functions is abyssmal. As is your irredeemable lack of knowledge regarding any topic that’s even vaguely naval. And your shitposting is tepid, at best.
Easton Howard
First time around was in the 80s, second was in the 90s.
Zachary Morales
>Defiant, Reliant, Resolute, Retribution, Relentless, Reciprocity, Valiant, Vigilant, Vengeance, About half of those were WMECs. The Reliance class had all of the old cool Brit names.
All helicopter and CAS aircraft are mandated to have shark faces. Fighters and Bombers must have a pinup of an 8/10+ chick somewhere on the aircraft
Noah Walker
You know what the Royal Navy of 1819 did?
Won naval battles and ruled the oceans.
Lincoln Diaz
>For what purpose?
To end the bullshit politics and give ships beautiful names with meaning.
>not the Royal Navy in 1819
That's the navy that ruled the world. If you were trying to make an insult, then you failed.
Grayson Hernandez
>Raise standards to be equal for all applicants >Refuse them equal roles If someone can meet standards then that is all that matters. You claim to be against emotional-based sensitivities and quotas but then want to implement your own based on discriminating against groups you believe currently are pandered to. It's no better.
>Order the military to deport all illegals at once Not their role. >How hard is that? Pretty hard considering not all of them would be from Mexico and you'd be pushing foreigners onto their soil.
>Make Navy warship names great again. Stop naming them after fucking politicians. I agree that naming ships after people just to gain political favor is silly. There are a few individuals who served and that deserve that honor. In general the naming convention is after places and battles and I think that is fine. Giving them "badass" names sounds pointless, especially when that's more of a Royal Navy tradition and part of the weight of those names comes from invoking the ships that had that name before.
Isaiah Kelly
>Not their role so it's not the military's role to kick out invaders? >Pretty hard considering not all of them would be from Mexico and you'd be pushing foreigners onto their soil Let those fuckers get a taste of their own medicine then.
Jonathan Lewis
The military's role is to protect the country from foreign invasion. Aside from buzzwords, individuals entering illegally is a policing matter and belongs to those agencies and ICE. Using the military like that would create a bad precedent when they're expected to perform other law enforcement actions. Like say, enforcing a state's gun laws if they find compliance is not satisfactory.
>Let those fuckers get a taste of their own medicine then. That does not solve the problem. That just makes trying to work together to solve a problem that originates further South even harder.
Charles Clark
>The military's role is to protect the country from foreign invasion 500,000 spics does not seem like and invasion to you? Aside from buzzwords, individuals entering illegally is a policing matter and belongs to those agencies and ICE And the Armed forces
Xavier Turner
>that is all that matters
Winning wars is all that matters. When human nature completely changes and men and women can share shower rooms without rapes happening, then maybe I'll reconsider. Unfortunately we don't live in the movie Starship Troopers.
>discriminating against groups
So what? Men win wars. If I have to discriminate against women and trannys, then so be it. Let them cry on Tumblr.
>Not their role
That is exactly their role. Defending America. Not the CIA's poppy fields in Afghanistan. Definitely not fighting Israel's wars.
>not all of them would be from Mexico
That's Mexico's problem. They have no right to complain.
>"badass" names sounds pointless
Being badass is an end in itself.
Adrian Brooks
>9000 hours in Paint I suppose it’s not too difficult to spam multiple copies of a bot with the same non sequitur programming.
Owen Rodriguez
But I thought Mad Dog Mattis was going to wave his magic wand and make the Obama-era officer corps all lean and mean and stuff. What happened?
Zachary Anderson
>If someone can meet standards then that is all that matters That was the crowbar used to get the shit started, and what immediately followed was dropping peer reviews and destruction of discipline. >Not their role. Actually, expelling foreign invaders and exterminating the traitors who let them in is in fact, their role. But its so fucked, you'd spend years unfucking the military before you could ever move on the 50 million plus spics who need expelling. >protect the country from foreign invasion Foreign invaders who come to plunder the wealth of a nation and harm its people? Uh huh. Which they are failing at. Add 2 zeros to that number.
Anthony Baker
Mattis happened. Everyone thought he was based because they read le edgy faceberg quotes. But it turns out he sided with trannies and women over real fighting men.
Easton Sullivan
the 500,000 number was the amount coming in per year.
Matthew Ortiz
>Give them names with gravitas. Defiant, Reliant, Resolute, Retribution, Relentless, Reciprocity, Valiant, Vigilant, Vengeance, etc. Face it, America has become the first Judeo-Christian Globohomo Empire.
>If someone can meet standards then that is all that matters. Wrong. Bringing a single woman on the team comes with a bunch of problems outside her control, it is a liability in itself.
And institutions will always play politics, if you introduce women under the guise of equality, the standards will drop until women can pass them. Sweden did just that, after a while male firefighters couldn't pass the tougher old PT standards. youtube.com/watch?v=Y0jhx39i_kg
Jaxson Rodriguez
>he thinks folding chair CIC's are real CICs and not land based simulators
The ship will be an oiler and Milk was a Navy veteran.
Samuel Barnes
>Aside from buzzwords, individuals entering illegally is
Is an invasion and an act of war. Period.
>agencies and ICE
They have failed miserably for decades. Whatever their reasons are, they blew it. It's time to find another solution.
>create a bad precedent
No it wouldn't. It has always been the military's job to protect against foreign invasion.
>That does not solve the problem
It most certainly does.
>work together
With who? Fucking Mexico? They are the enemy. If your plan is to ask a narco state that beheads their own people by the dozens for help, then you are setting yourself up for failure.
My read is he sat there in an administrative role rather than a command one and froze in the headlights. I have yet to hear any of his fans tell me one noteworthy accomplishment of his as SecDef.
So Montana gets ethnically cleansed out of the electoral college all over again every other year. Yay.
The wall goes up, the illegals -- including the ones who overstayed their visa -- go home or in the fucking ground. Or our country is lost.
>It's an invasion And which enemy nation or force do they represent? You may have a point with caravans of people funded and pushed specifically into the US, but individuals are something that should be handled by the proper agencies. Use the military to secure the border but don't let them go around with squads catching people who broke laws.
>No it wouldn't. Shows what you know. You approve of the military being brought in to deal with domestic issues? That happened during the Civil War, units fresh from Gettysburg were brought into NYC to quell riots over drafts. If there's an anti-gun President then you've given them permission to send troops door-to-door since you see the military as a law enforcement agency. All they need is the claim that they're enforcing anti-terrorism operations by removing illegal guns.
>With who? Fucking Mexico? They are the enemy. Of course...that's what they tried to stop the caravans from coming through their country and their own police forces were assaulted for trying to do so. Most illegals are not from Mexico.
Leo Green
hey if you're still around... I'm supposed to go sign a CG contract next week, if shit is really that terrible, I'd rather stay in the states and get my uncle to help me with a job doing the same thing I want to do in the coast guard for more money(aviation mechanic type stuff)
Ian Kelly
Aww, you're going to miss the time of night when your board gets bombed with scat and gay furry porn.
Parker Morris
Have they thought of just not raising the standards and telling people "Sorry, this job involves things beyond you. This is a vital service and the expectations won't be lowered."? Let anyone apply, let anyone try, let anyone who meets the expectations succeed.
Evan Bailey
>Red Wegener, King of SAR, pls stay
Noah Bennett
Enforcement of borders has been, traditionally, the job of the military. As a matter of fact I'd wager that the first "professional" soldiers were men who occupied border forts year-round as opposed to militiamen who would be raised in times of crisis. Border guards/troops are almost always uniformed soldiers in pretty much every nation except for the US and a some euro/euro-lite nations. People crossing the border illicitly is NOT a law enforcement issue, it's a national security problem.
The military's job, boiled down, is to protect the people of a nation and the integrity of the state. If you seriously can't make the connection between border security and protecting a nation from invasion, please visit the nearest euthanasia chamber because you are literally too stupid to live.
Traditionally there shouldn't be a standing army in the US if you want to go that route, and yes local milita was created by the city/county/state to enforce border security. Stop pretending you know history.
Josiah Long
That argument doesn't work with people whose sole goal is "diversity". If you don't have the right numbers it's discrimination pure and simple regardless of the reason.
That's not how any organization work, that's not how people work. Everything follows the path of least resistance, it's just easier to compromise your standards than to rely on finding freaks of nature. If you're ambitious and career minded, you'll make it work or someone else will. The higher you climb any hierarchy, the more political everything gets.
Jayden Cook
>google this thinking wtf >After aborting the approach, Hultgreen selected full afterburner on the remaining engine >she was ejected downward into the water What the shit was she trying to do?
Dylan Barnes
The shill posting the pic swore it was shipboard. Are you guys really so retarded you can’t tell the difference between your own simulators and ships? Damn, PLAN, unfuck yourself.
Benjamin Cooper
Eat a dick, nigger
Brayden Miller
Some of the khakis are like that. Not a majority. Yet.
I remember posting a story about this here when it first happened and telling everyone that this is what happened and would come to light when the story broke. More lives lost due to incompetent women and non-whites. (((Diversity))) sure is great, right?
Jaxson Martin
>individuals entering illegally is a policing matter
Wrong. They are NOT citizens or the judicial branches resposibility. They get no representation under the law. Illegal spics are foreign invaders and should be treated as such.
Logan James
>Face it, America has become the first Judeo-Christian Globohomo Empire
Replace “Christian” with “Capitalist” and you’re correct.
Aaron Hall
Jesus CHRIST straighten your shit up. You fags are also a part of our ABM defenses.
And also? Why is it EVERY time I watch a navy video on YouTube there’s niggers and women on them?
Brody Peterson
>Why is it EVERY time I watch a navy video on YouTube there’s niggers and women on them?
Because we need more (((Diversity))), goyim.
Liam Long
well the issue is that the VCR was on strike because they were so fucking butthurt about being led by a woman
Joshua Collins
>frigate
That's clearly a submarine, women did nothing wrong.
Levi Cook
>Sarah Coppock >Upper far left pic has a women with the name saying Coppock Hmm
Kayden Morris
Fitzgerald damage control officer replies on forum
The literal exact opposite of the very first thing tomcat pilots get taught. Her RIO in the back was the one who initiated the btw because he figured out what was inevitably going to happen.
The Military needs another George Marshall to go through and purge the ranks.
Michael Nguyen
TOP FUCKING KEK
Guess what Kara Hultgreen's call sign was...you cannot make this shit up...her call sign was REVLON hahahahahahahaha
Is every ship in the US navy pretty much one white captain with a bunch of diversity hire officers, second gen immigrant NCOs and an enlisted crew of retards, shitskins and nigs?
