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Where is the gp11?

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2012

Bought ~2000 rounds of it at 20 cpr. Felt like stealing desu

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Shit became more scarce around 2015-2016.

Supposedly it still gets occasionally imported in smaller quantities now but the old surplus stockpiles are pretty much gone. There’s new production gp11 out there but the Swiss aren’t a particularly huge exporter of firearms/ammo - and the only thing available in the foreign market in the 7.5 Swiss are the old K11s and K31s anyways. They make enough for domestic use but the Swiss haven’t been in any major conflict in the past century and that the round hasn’t been standardized in their military for the past 30 years. They aren’t going to beef up production again just to sell to guys that own a pair of old surplus rifles.

Just use PPU. New production gp11 would end up costing just as much anyways.

Gp11 is still the round used in the swiss GpMGs.

PPU brass, Nosler Custom Competition, H4831 are your friends.
DO NOT EXCEED 45K PSI in your loads.
Reloader 17 and H4350 are other good powders
Case volume is similar to a 30-06.
Do not use modern 30-06 load data.
Powder puff loads for an M1 Garand are closest to what a Straight Pull action needs.
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Tfw my local range sells it at 35 cpr
Tfw comfy stgw57

Pics. Gun and range please.

Gun and...

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Is it true that it fucks brass up to the nth degree?

Hell yes it does, the fluted chamber fucks brass beyond all recognition, bulges out the neck and the full lenght of the sides too

No range pics, sadly

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Nice weapons and facilities.
Electronic targets.
Soft rubber flooring?
Is that an Anschutz or Walther rifle on top?

It's rubber granulate flooring, harsh on the elbows when shooting prone but very comfy with a jacket on

It's actually a voere rifle that's missing the front sight post and needs to be reblued
I also have a fat slab of walnut that i was planning on making a stock out of

And i forgot to post the handguns

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My only swiss firearm (as of now). 1924 manufactured karabiner 1911

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SUBCOMPACT.
Will take pics of my K31 and 1896/11 when I get home.

Oops

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Oof, sexy
The only thing sexier than sphinx' is the sig p210 desu

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Does that one have a 22LR barrel?

No, normal 9mm

i dont wanna raise hopes prematurely but we are talking about a civilian version of GP11 something like 7.5x55 Swiss CIP. Maybe there will be more info in 2020/22.

Jow Forumsheese = keys
kill yourself faggot

We have pallets upon pallets of it in Canada

>tfw never even seen gp11 for sale since I got my k31
I need to get some 7.5 dies

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The swiss were supposed to import more this january. There's still time, but I've given up hope

I wouldnt know about it since we are still on the gov. contract.

Any particular picture requests?

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Please note that space is limited so no whole family photo.

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Got any snipers or trainers?

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The Hämmerli 4mm air rifle insert.

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Can I buy ammo in Canada without a PAL?

This is good news really.
Scare ammo will deter bubba and keep prices from rising.
I still need a g11 infantry k11 and a 1889.
And maybe a better g96/11

it comes in waves. keep an eye out on ammo seek and dont wait when it does come back.

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I had no idea this existed now I want one badly. How much did you pay if you don't mind me asking?

Fuck, how much do those run nowadays? Hard want, but can't find one.

In switzerland? 350-450 bucks
In the us? Haha good luck finding one for under 10k

If you're swiss you might want to join the euro telegram for tips and recommendations about gunshops

Oh, you're Swiss? Well shit, I love the mountains, flying, and guns, so if I ever have to flee the US I think I'll come out by you.

I'd say you're welcome but the general train of thought here is fuck off, we're full

Diopter sights or a no drill mounted scope for a k31?

>fuck off, we're full
Ironically, you let one of my Australian compatriots live there

I fucking want a set of diopters

Stock iron, faggot

The diopters are practically stock, faggot - they've been used in target shooting from the minute conscripts started going home with their rifle

>40370693
>DO NOT EXCEED 45K PSI in your loads.
Pussy. What's your logic behind this? The actions can and have held up to much hotter rounds. Hammerli made them in .30-06 and .300 win mag.

I target shooting, yes. They still look gay as fuck and you might as well get a scope

You look gay as fuck

>In target shooting yes

What else would you use a k31 for? HD?

PPU is fine. Just use that. Oh, and it's boxer primed, unlike GP11.

I feel bad. My 1896/11 will likely never see GP11, because it's unobtainium right now in the states, and I doubt that will change.

*laughs but also cries in .308 import version*
Those bastards cut off the forend so I can't even use a bayonet. Although, it works perfectly and I got it for $200 so I can't really complain.

I... Want to see this...

What about clamp on muzzle brakes and bipod adapter? Which ones are good?

No .22s?

Son, I am disappoint

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Lets try the other end

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Im not into the third party modificated rifles. Unless Ive made them. I know someone who collects all kinds of these conversions. Not really in my intrest.

*addendum* only .22 i have right now is an FN 1912.

Get a cz455

You can easily change parts to fire all modern rim fire cartridges. Plus the rifle is very well made.

Meh. Looking for a semi or FA one.
Most cases i stumble over interesting stuff so i let patience guide me.

>it's all in my crate

But seriously my LGS always has it in stock now. Probably has 500 rounds of it on the shelf right now.

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And what are they called?

WA state.

I'm still after a box of Swiss 7.65mm Parabellum with the white and gray labels to round out my collection. Every once in a blue moon 6.45mm GP80 boxes show up as well. I have loose rounds of several Swiss experimentals but not any full boxes.

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>buying Euro guns in the US
lmao you deserve it, stick to your shit, burgers

There are other manufacturers, smoothbrain

So, how does one drift the front sight of a 1911 rifle? Not the K11, but the rifle version?

PPU ammo is underpowdered and burns slower/dirty. Their 7.92x57, 5.56x45 and .303 consistently hit noticeably lower than previous zeroes. Good plinking ammo.

It's not as good as GP11, but it's readily available.

I love PPU but their 7.5 swiss loadings are pitifully underpowered

I thought the loading was kinda in the ballpark of GP11? 174gr and similar powder load?

not even close.

Show?

I'll take a picture of the front sight when I get home from work.

Here's a picture I found online.

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There's a tool for that but i'd say just tap it with a center punch a bit

This makes me want to sell my k31 at times. I ain't in deep enough to reload and ppu being out of stock of fmj ammo pisses me off

That's what I was thinking, I just wanted to make sure.

Just be gentle, senpai

what scope is that

Why doesn't some swiss user look into becoming an ammo exporter and an American user the importer/seller?

Then we can have our own exclusive Jow Forums31 ammo supply.

With this marvel of engineering. Adaptable for 11 or 31 pattern of front sight.

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That's for the K31 and K11. Not the 1896/11 or 1911 rifle.

Swissfag here, send cheap ar's first
The cheapest good one is fucking 1k m+p2

As ive already said at the early bit of the thread. Be patient, behave, vote a good president and we might go one and make you some.

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A leuppld rifleman I think? 3-9x. Was cheap, holds zero and fits so the brass ejects no problem.

Scope on these rifles is a must imo. Mine shoots 2/3-3/4 moa with gp11. With irons the best I could manage was 3” groupings.

Get back to work, jjm

Derp sorry ment this one.

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Is that something you made, or purchased?

Bought at some gunshow at one time or another.

Alright.

Looks easy enough to manufacture yourself

That's what I was thinking about doing.

Here. Adapt into your inferior system if you must.
Like the madman i am i managed to spill beea all over me and the drawing.

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You are the real jihad, friend.

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