AFSOC

What are Jow Forums's thoughts of AFSOC/special tactics?
>Combat Control
>Pararescue
>TACP/JTAC
>SERE specialist
>The oft forgotten SOWT

Any stories?

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unironically the best sof in the military

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you forgot
>Special Mission Aviation
>DAGRE
>SRT

What do SERE specialists do?

They teach people how to SERE. Not really operators but they go to some cool schools.
DAGRE itself is just SF, they fall under afsoc but theyre not sof. What do you mean by srt? Security reaponse team is the only thing that comes to mind and they for sure are not afsoc.

>DAGRE itself is just SF
no it isn't
>What do you mean by srt?
Special Response Team

He thinks special mission aviation is sof.
I'm guessing he's sf.

Dont forget the actual special aviation squadrons, spooky dudes doing spooky things in spooky airplanes.

Or muh drone strikes.

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Dudes who wear dagre tabs are still security forces and special reaponse teams are 100% not afsoc. Anyone sf can go to the school if their unit will send them. Its a cert which is kind of cool but most people will never unit. Unless your nukes in which case lol

Im just ignoring that part.

Ever wondered what it's like to be left to die on a dusty mountain when the SEALs chicken out? Then join AFSOC.

>special reaponse teams are 100% not afsoc.
americanspecialops.com/usaf-special-operations/special-operations-security-forces-squadron/

Damn haha

i think its better to join the SEALS and get medals for leaving Airmen behind on a mountain and then try to stop them from getting the MoH because muh feels

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>special reaponse teams are 100% not afsoc.

correct

I guess I can answer some questions.
Also yeah DAGRE and other SF jobs are not AFSOC or what used to be called Battlefield Airmen and is now rebranded as Special Warfare Airmen.
Though to be fair TACP are not AFSOC unless they are SOF TACP in STS.

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Howd you like sitting in jdoc during your last deployment?

You can control way more from the TOC so it is not that bad. Easy to communicate with the ASOC and get requests filled. Better SA from Rover feeds etc.

Still not as fun as humping it with the Joes.

You guys are pretty cool, i bullshitted a lot with some of you at jbad. Those guys werent very happy about it but i think they were still young.
Im in the middle of trying to figure out what i want to do with my career, you think tacp is something you could do for 20? Right now i either want to retrain or get out and try to fly helicopters for the army.

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Do NG TACPs do any worthwhile assignments? Or is it basic b.s. like most guard jobs?

ANG TACP is super fun. Get all the cool guy TDYs can do awesome training. And they deploy mainly through the bucket system. Also get a lot of options to go with the 19th and 20th SF group on ODA.

4U

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CCTs always look so comfy

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I don't get what SOWT actually does
Like can't you just watch the local version of the weather channel?

They take all of the goddamn budget for themselves, for one. All of the Mobility squadrons get fucked because AFSOC needs new shit.

Salt aside, PJs scare the shit out of me. They all look empty behind the eyes. I'm convinced they are living incarnations of war.

>PJs
>Living incarnations of war
LOL they aren't even a direct action unit, they're just glorified medics
Rangers, SF, SEALs, and even infantry in the Army and USMC are more so "incarnations of war" than fucking PJs

I was in a tacp unit for a while, they're fucking badass. They wanted me to cross train over but I was too much of a fat fuck to survive training

Not him, but I think the medical aspect creates that look. They go into the hottest zones and try to rescue people who've had their shit pushed in so hard their teeth are brown.
It would fuck with me anyway, I could never do medical because I'd lose my mind trying and failing to keep someone alive.

Stories?

They do mission planning. My understanding is you need hyperlocalized and real-time data for those super important ops. It was explained to me that SOWT tell you what aircraft to use, because different wearther systems will interfere with their onboard tech/maybe there is low visability at B height for aircraft X because of an incoming storm from, but it is clear at C height for Y plane.

They collect valuable and precise weather data at a location where there is no weather data, many months before an op takes place. That info is critical if you want any sort of air support at all, they have a pretty valuable job

These niggas seem to stay very low key and do their job while other groups/units like to write books/scripts.

>>The oft forgotten SOWT
Lel my AF recruiter shilled this hard when I was a junior in high school looking to enlist
I honestly only knew of SOWT in AFSOC
I didn't think Air Force had anything else until a couple of years ago

Lol, whatever, man. Go tell a PJ he's basically just a Corpsman to his face.

as a student of ROTC but never a serviceman, bunch of funny names that mean nothing to me. me I like my Navy in the water, my Army on the ground, my Coastguard chasing girls, my Airforce flying roun', and my Marines eating crayons

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Well i'm trying for pararescue so It's safe to say i think they're badass.
SOWT from what i can tell is like a specialized recon unit that can tell weather as well as regular recon intel.

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some guy on reddit said he spent 6 years in ANG TACP, never deployed and never even went airborne

I'm 27 with a degree in ATC should I join TACP?

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ATC is more of a cct thing, but if you have a degree, you might as well go Air Liaison Officer or Special Tactics Officer.

Make sure you're really good at swimming before you go for it. Pararescue selection emphasizes water confidence almost as much as the SEAL's do.

So I just learned that Combat Aviation Advisors are a thing.
I sounds like the air force trying to make their own green berets. Anybody heard about them?
Does it come out like the army SFAB?

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>Does it come out like the army SFAB?
I guess but I think they train pilots on turboprops in Nigeria and Afghanistan

does tacp have a swim requirement?

Fail spend six years behind a computer separate in 76 days never having deployed or done anything in a military sense.

?

It's a high failure rate for all of, when I went through were called, battle field airmen but what they don't tell you is the other jobs in the air force are all very un military. I spent the rest of my career as a network technician configuring routers and switches. I tried like he'll to retain early in my career but my leadership didn't give a shit.

Officially no, but you do have to do water survival. Sink to bottom of pool, strip gear, swim to surface. GTG

Yeah, the "guaranteed retrain" package after your first term is bullshit.
>here's my cross train package captain.
>tell me user, why do you want to leave the most important career in the air force?
>sir, we're overstaffed, I'm not allowed to stay in this career field.
>that's disappointing user.
Denied
>shred this on your way out.

I had an ncoic all me what I had done to deserve him signing it stfu you're a tech sergeant chill
He was also an anti gun Bernie bro true story the while office openly mocked him when trump won

>can't be tacp prior to becoming a CAA
damn
afsoc.af.mil/Portals/86/Users/135/15/1415/CAALeaflet.pdf?ver=2017-06-19-133423-923

>They teach people how to SERE
They routinely deploy attached to ODAs, however most of them just run around innawoods outside Spokane.

Not him but I worked with the 111th ASOS for awhile and they got tons of cool shit, got pushed through schools, and had a high as fuck deployment tempo.

What's the intel support like for a TACP? Do they seem like they do work or do they get stuffed in a corner with admin bullshit? I'm 1N0 Ops Intel and applying for AFSOC jobs sounds more interesting than bouncing between fighter squadrons.

>They routinely deploy attached to ODAs

teaching sere stuff?

>Do they seem like they do work or do they get stuffed in a corner with admin bullshit?
not that guy but, I've heard it goes either way, but I think non-jtac tacp and those with little time in have to all the BS work