so german bureaucrats are working on fullfilling the EUs next wet dream in restricting private gun ownership.
>Magazines will be limited to max. 10 rounds for rifle & shotgun, 20 rounds for pistols >Magazines with higher capacity will be classified as "cat. A" which means they will become illegal to own, purchase and use if you dont have special permits for them (which no one will get of course) >Pinching 30rd mags to 10 rounds is not allowed, the magazine will be still classified on the theoretical size of the magazine body >If a magazine for a pistol also fits in a rifle (Beretta 92 for Beretta CX4 i.e.) such magazine must be limited to 10rd for both the pistol and the rifle or it is illegal to own, when the owner has both pistol and the rifle >Muzzle Loaders which could be bought without permits until now if you are above 18y of age will need a purchase permit (Erwerbsberechtigung) and will need to be stored in gun safes >Decoration guns "deactivated guns" will need to be registered to local authorities
>Its looking really bad Kommandos and I dont know how we can avert this nonesense... Who are the EU? Oh, that's right, it's you. Or specifically, the government you elected, some bureaucrats they've put in place, and a bunch of parliamentarians that, once again, you elected. So yeah, you're not going to be keeping this away for long, because it's not some alien idea forced upon you by an exterior entity. It's something that's largely an idea from German politicians, elected by German voters, and it definitely wouldn't have become actual EU directive without the support of a large number of said politicians.
This isn't just something EU wants, this is something Germany wants. But sure, do blame the EU for it comrad пoлeзный идиoт.
Liam Roberts
Are you even allowed to have guns?
Leo Flores
It's like you don't understand how EU works. If Germany wants something they get it. And outside of few select could countries there really isn't much of a gun ownership culture. And where there is it's practically all fudds who don't care as long as their bolt actions and shotguns are left alone.
Even if there was one nation full of gun nuts in the EU all they can do is have the new directive not apply to them at best. EU is determined to remove all guns outside of few bolt action rifles and shotguns from private citizens. It's been going on for quite a while already and will be going on until they've reached their goal.
Dylan Mitchell
dude we cant conceal carry so guns here are useless 9/10 if something happens where you need a gun it will be outside
Nicholas Foster
Given that the EU is becoming increasingly Islamic this actually seems like a rational course of action. Nobody sane wants to live amongst armed muslims.
Literally nobody cares since you don't need guns for self defense in Europe.
They are just toys and you can rent them at any range.
Tyler Cruz
>and I dont know how we can avert this nonesense There is only one way and the second you start talking about it your countries intelligence agency is going to come for you with everything they've got. Sending out their specially trained DSI, GIGN or GSG attack dogs that don't give a fuck if what they're enforcing is draconian, as long as they get to blow up peoples front doors and blackbag people the states deems necessary. And why wouldn't they? Easier to supress dissenting citizens than it is to fix the problem with all the north-african, turkish and albanian gangs with eastern-bloc full auto weapons or islamic would be terrorists right? You need to take a closer look how the EU actually works and what kind of figures reside within its rotten bloated structure. You'd easily see that its an amalgamation of self-aggrandizing socialists, crypto-communists and corporate whores who believe in complete top down governance. They are changing the already draconian gun laws to further curtail the few Europeans still patient enough to ask their overlords if they could please have a gun for "sporting" or "hunting" reasons.
Cooper Robinson
Not this meme again.
Joseph Ramirez
>Muzzle Loaders which could be bought without permits until now if you are above 18y of age will need a purchase permit (Erwerbsberechtigung) and will need to be stored in gun safes
And private homes and museums must remove all antique muzzleloaders guns or lock them up or what? You nee to apply for a permit to buy a 200 year old flintlock? I don't think so. The auction houses would go excuse the pun ballistic. I assume this applies to garbage rods made for obscure reasons to do with hunting regulations in the USA like inline muzzleloaders and for regulating people who actually shoot gun reproductions like pedersolis and to try and control the availability of Italian cap and ball revolvers I assume antique arms are exempt from this nonsense. On of the joys of owing them is the interesting chats that arise form their display.
>Given that the EU is becoming increasingly Islamic
Plese fuck off this is not pol. The muslin population in Europe, is squalid, uneducated, ghettoised, backward and an irrelevant divided minority devoted to hating other muslims who's children are invariable perrty criminals who deal drugs in urban areas. They have no land, property, political power, presence in the officer corps, the administrative civil services or anything much except as denizens of slums and prisons. The british do have a percular fetish for them, I suppose because they went to such great lengths to go to far flung places and bring them back even in England they are about 5% o the population, 50% of them arabs who hate niggers and 50% o them niggers to hate arabs,sunnis who hate shites etc etc. I know the theme is one that is plugged on shitholes like /pol by Russia (which ironically has a huge and mostly barbaric Muslim population) but it's not reality. They are greatly disliked its true and in many ways are establishing the void left by the ghettoised Jews, except rather than being a hated slum dwelling minority that lend money, they sell weed
Caleb Brooks
>Europe 2017 - 512 million population >62 people killed in terrorist attacks >almost 5000 murders total
>USA 2017 - 325 million population >almost 40000 deaths by gun >over 17000 murders
Yeah guys, Europe is such a shithole. God bless USA.
>decorative guns will need to be even more shitted on in order to be "deactivated" i gotta REALLY hurry up when it comes to buying that deactivated AKMS i wanted
Gabriel Cook
yes, displaying them on the wall wont be allowed anymore. museums may get permits, maybe they need to deactivate their muzzle loaders, maybe not but for the average citizen that is how it will end up being.
Lets have a quick look England 5% Ireland 2% France 5-10% (largely due to making Algeria part of France for a century) Germany 5%
And those percentages include deluded former heroin addicts that adopted it in prison, sunnis and shites that hate each other and niggers and arabs that hate each other. Half of them can't even speak the languages of the countries they live in. They are inept, squalid, ghettoised irrelevances with petty criminal children and a dying religion.
The real problem in Europe is militant secularists and their allies the looney atheists, feminists, lgbt etc. But that's been the case for s century
Broadly speaking as a free trade block the EU has massively raised prosperity and freedom of movement for white Europeans. You need to stop shovelling Russian shit into your brain.
ALL givernments EVERYWHERE including innumerable US states are on this ban firearms bandwagon for cheap votes form morons. Your deranged shitting on about irrelevant slum dwelling sand niggers is irritating nonsense. Sure you don't want sandniggers in slums to get guns, but the white urban low income urban populations have always been social puss buckets you don't want to have guns either or they would start using them as niggers do in the US, for pointless petty crime, which is undesirable.
Bentley Smith
Please tell me which gun laws we should choose from the light blue area to fight homicides. To make the choice easier: Gun ownership in the light blue areas next to each other can be as different as all households having a black rifle to gun ownership being pretty much non existent due to strict laws.
MEPs are elected (but usually only vote party line without reading the proposals), those writing the directives aren't.
Charles Edwards
The US rate of death by guns also include savage criminals justly shot dead in self defence, accidents and suicides. If anything I'd like to see the death rate in the EU due to guns rise as it would men petty urban criminals are being removed at the housebreaking state before they work their way up to rape or murder, You also sound like a sanctimonious cunt. I like Americans. I like their attitude to firearms as legitimate means of self defence and effective an cheap control of the active criminal population particularly in rural areas and people like you are fucking cancer
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Chase Gomez
EU commission It isn't that different from cabinet positions which aren't directly elected either.
Evan Parker
Guns are fun. Firing different guns at a range is fun.
When you feel like you need to carry a gun for defense and your schools have guards with automatic weapons something is very wrong with your country.
Ian James
Yes and you know who blocked reform to make the directorate democratically accountable to the elected MEPs. That's right the fucking British. Who then complained about it being undemocratic. The British loved the EU when (like their queen) they could be very important and dictate via the directorate to other nations. They hate it when the EU enlarged and diminished their authoritarian power and did everything possible to stall the adoption of a constitution and democratic reform. What do you expect from a feudal shithole with an official sectarian monarchy.
Jeremiah Cook
Yes guns are fun, they are also tools, for sport f0or hunting for war for defence. They are also objects for for study, vital parts of the historical, cultural, social and manufacturing record and generally delightful. I think its great you like shooting target and enjoy it. I think its great an elderly isolated farmer can shoot dead a housebreaker. Good for you. Good for him.
Xavier Collins
>When you feel like you need to carry a gun for defense and your schools have guards with automatic weapons something is very wrong with your country
Quite a few schools in London could probably benefit a great deal from armed guards such is their vile state. Where the fuck did you come from reddit?
Lucas Martin
>Magazines will be limited to max. 10 rounds for rifle & shotgun, 20 rounds for pistols Only center fired rifles >Decoration guns "deactivated guns" will need to be registered to local authorities Only deactivated guns will need registration. There is already "metal brick" law on use now so no decos that can be finger fucked
Everything about this eu gun law is retarded and fucked. Even officials admitted that it is only to look like they'r doing something against gun violence. Plot twist They aren't They don't care about illegal firearms
Christian Perez
>Its looking really bad Kommandos and I dont know how we can avert this nonesense...
to occasionally pull their heads out of the asses of green party politicians once in a while.
James Baker
Fox news said you'd end up in a concentration camp if you get caught with a gun in Europe.
Landon Smith
>They don't care about illegal firearms
IF they are in the hands of traditional rural populations and law abiding middle class people. Lets face it giving low income squalid urban types free access to guns IS a mistake.
Ayden Young
>Fox news said you'd end up in a concentration camp if you get caught with a gun in Europe.
I own about 50 thanks. I also don't watch fox news or cnn because I don't pack my brain with rotting shit
Ryan Bell
those niggers get them regardless, but somehow it's always the law-abiding citizens who have to pay how's that boot taste, my dear brit?
