I'm a Security Officer at a Hospital. Several of my coworkers have invested in concealed body armor that they wear under their uniform.
What does Jow Forums recommend for a security guard in terms of body armor and replacing his duty belt, cuffs and collapsible baton with proper, non-poor versions?
Limitations: Administration doesn't allow firearms or OC Spray because they're fucking retarded.
When I was a janitor at a hospital, all the security fags concealed carry, even though it wasn't allowed. They use to go into the roof and smoke weed too, so not surprised they carried too. Now for your security questions, what's your budget?
Fellow se/k/urityfag as well, although we contract for the DOC. I've considered surplus IIIA vests, but honestly I may get a lowvis carrier for my plates.
I don't make a fuck-ton but I understand the importance of at least spending $350+ on body armor.
Have you checked out the /gq/ sticky?
/gq?
Not that user but gear queer
>tfw the security at my hospital are all armed and wear full vests
inner city hospitals lmoa
I have not. I don't frequent this board like I did when I was younger.
this threadthey are your go to for all gear related things. Now go read theur sticky and check catalog before posting stupid threads again.
Check out the Enforcer 5000 from Body armor outlet.
I wore it daily for security and it is quite comfortable
None of those pastebins are helpful for the specific gear one needs in hospital security. Not even the medical. I don't even need a First Aid kit because I've got a radio that can literally summon Rapid Response trained medical staff.
The general one points you in the direction of brands you can use, and obviously we aren't pointing you to the IFAK lists.
This user might be worth looking at, or you could just ask the /gq/ thread itself
Looks good. Thanks for the suggestion.
>Security """officer"""
Working as an armed guard as I type this
I rock a safelife lvl iiia+
I'd recommend something with stab protection
Working as an EMT I've gotten into a lot more close calls getting stabbed than shot
Hospitals are full of sharps and you don't want AIDs sooo
As for duty belts I'm running a 5.11 Sierra bravo duty belt and it has held up for two years of use and is rigid enough for a gun
Protip: stay clear of bianchi
Safariland is the best duty company for pouches, don't cheap out or you'll be re-snapping all of your pouches all day
I have a small amount of tactics and medical training and recently quit my day job, how do I find an armed security job?
A good one requires .mil or previous security experience
Shitty ones require a pulse
Get your states armed guard cert on your own so they don't have to worry about you getting it from them then leaving
On a personal note, make sure what you're guarding is worth your life
t. Private Security contractor for the aerospace and defense industry
Stab, ballistic, both?
whats the point of security if you cant be armed? like literally what do you do?
>shooter
>"STOP RIGHT THERE OR I'LL USE FORCE!"
>"do it faggot"
>spills spaghetti
>gets shot
>dies
>security officer
>officer
Get a stab vest if youre in a getto hospitol, you wont get shot Officer Blart.
Gatorhawk for vest. It's my favorite I've had.
Safariland for all belt shit, get STX or whatever their most recent easy clean stuff.
Peerless hinged cuffs, seriously hinged is the shit.
T. 10 year ghetto cop, who bought his own shy because issue gear was shit and old.
Also work somewhere they'll let you have a fucking gun
Also if you have to buy the uniform.
Blauer Supershirts, fuck red kap and 5.11.
Royal Robbins used to be good too.
how much do you make an hour?
t. Vegas Security officer
does admin search you
if not, get a subcompact in an ankle holster.
>Security Officer
WEW
Quality post
Not OP but I make 16.50 an hour. Feels poor man
>butthurt "officer"
at least he's not a chef at Wendy's
I work in a factory
not bad, i turn 21 soon so i can be casino security and make $18 an hour ez
How do l even get into a decent armed security job? I got my guard card and am looking at getting my armed soon but where do l look because l get paid garbage right now
Wendys chefs are an indespensible part of a functioning community.
Federal sites. Look up SCIS, Paragon Systems and Constellis Group. All 3 of these require previous armed security experience though.
SCIS is good to go
Paragon requires .mil or leo for most contracts
Appreciate it man
How much experience?
If you can't have a gun, you shouldn't bother with armor. It might cause you to forget that your job is to run away alongside anyone else if someone with a gun and an attitude shows up.
oh hi Todd, whatever happened to that cutie nurse that wanted your number anyways?
For SCIS?
For all unarmed usually none
Armed 6 months is usually g2g
This can change per contract, sometimes clients can have a say, specially at cool kid assignments
You can get lucky and find a desperate site, but it'll take close to 6 months just to get hired
Any position at SCIS requires you being an American citizen and be eligible for at least a SECRET clearance
Any questions on clearances should be directed to /meg/
Thanks I was having a bad day till you cheered me up, your encouragement will insure that I'll stick around not only in this thread, but Jow Forums at large.
Thats quite a low bar though
now we're talking
SafeLife defense for stab and bullet protection, a 5.11 nylon duty belt, ASP collapsible baton, and S&W's. Thank me later.
There is a difference. My state is the only one where a SLED Certified Guard has the same legal authority as a Sherriff's Deputy. I can legally make full arrests, ask dispatch to run plate numbers, etc. while I'm on the premises of the location I've been hired to protect.
I spend all fucking day resnapping the pouches on my issued belt. It's a cheap piece of shit and sometimes if I have to bend over forwards, the belt just fucking comes undone and falls off when I stand back up.
We still have batons and physical force. We're mostly a visual deterrent. But most of the guys keep a gun in their vehicle. Whichever officer is posted at the entrance where the shooting starts is absolutely boned. But that gives the others time to get to their guns and come back. We recently went through a merger so hopefully we can talk to new Admins and get this changed. We are literally in the middle of some slums outside a growing city and they need to get with the fucking times.
Both.
See
See the problem is I have a gun even though I'm not supposed to. I just have to get to it first.
I did armed security with Constellis on a government contract in the DC area for almost 5 years, we had been issued Safariland “Second Chance” vests. They were level II and concealable under our uniforms. They weren’t too bad.
I don’t know what state you live in, but you could possibly be sued and legally liable for doing something like that..
OP Here
$12/hr. But this state has fucking cheap cost of living. I can afford rent on a 2-story house and 2 car payments with $12/hr.
>I can afford rent on a 2-story house and 2 car payments with $12/hr.
God damn. I made $27/hr doing armed security in northern Virginia, but it’s still hard to live out here on that
Honestly, I wouldn't fucking care. If I had to go get it, I'd be doing my best to save lives coming back in with the gun.
Now if only I could be sure P.D. wouldn't fucking mow me down immediately after I put down an active shooter.
$27/hr and I'd be one rich motherfucker around here. My site manager doesn't make that much.
Even if you went to jail?
Our LTs make $33/hr
Covert - coolmax safeguard. The pastebins just have hard armor. You're most likely going to run into pistols, edge weapons, and spikes. They have covert soft armor 2a, edge/spike weapon vests for around $200.
I only do armed jobs, we're not allowed to do unarmed contracts where I am at.
>Even if you went to jail?
Only an administrative fee and not a crime if caught in some states.
First, in this state I don't think any jury would find me guilty for running for my gun when a shooting started.
Second, with $33/hr, I could retire in like 4 years that's fucking insane.
Where the hell do you live where $33 an hour is enough to retire after a couple years?
er sorry soft armor 2 and edge/spike 1
South Carolina. The cost of living is unbelievably cheap unless you're in one of the major cities. (Greenville, Columbia, Charleston, Myrtle Beach)
I don’t mean with having a gun, I mean for retreating to safety, but THEN going back in. In many states that not allowed, because you’re suppose to use your weapon to get you to safety. Not only that. But your employer would surely fire you and not accept any responsibility since you have not been trained on firearms and are not authorized firearms on the job.
4 years is a bit of an exaggeration, but honestly I could probably retire after 20 years and be comfortable for the rest of my life.
My firm is pretty grassroots threeper. I honestly expect I'd get a solid pat on the back for it.
The first difference is that a hospital is full of sitting ducks. They can't evacuate when the shooting starts.
At which point you abandon post and transition from on duty to conceal carry" or "license to carry" laws and on your own insurance. If living in a free state you're not required to retreat.
What if your one your rounds hits and kills an innocent? Who will back you?
Fellow SC bro here, it used to be like this for me but I live near the border right under Charlotte and it's influence is stretching farther and farther into where I'm at so it's affecting the cost of living. It's still good, but these has been rapid development in our county because of it. Don't get too comfortable, something similar could happen anywhere.
No one. So don't be a retard and know your surroundings.
I just took a part time gig with them. How is it working for them? I'm a full time EMS fag and I'm doing it on the side
Whatever's cheapest since you guys only make $9/hr.
TX user here. What is the best route/starting point to open the door to an armed security career? I have zero experience but I have always been interested. (Just not in being a retard wrangler at a hospital)
Casino Security Officer here just passing by don't mind me
You don’t control your richochets, but you are still responsible for where that round goes
Which subsidiary do you work for under them? I worked under Omniplex. Let me just say, Omniplex was way better BEFORE Constellis acquired them
Honestly, retard wrangler is the highest paid starting position. I plan on moving on to larger posts with much better pay in a few years.
Tard wrangling is entry-level. Because if you can't wrangle tards you aren't competent enough for the higher-tier jobs.
Yeah, I figured. Getting bit fucking sucks, though.
What certs and requirements should I start with? Not to treat you like a search engine, I'd just like to receive my info from people with the experience and will dumb it down
Fellow hospital security fag. I feel your pain my hospital is unarmed. Though I at least get a Taser. In regards to getting an armed job, try an armored car service. That's how I got my start. Been doing armed security for about 9 years now. To all the other anons talking about the "officer" part of our "title" in my city all security is commissioned through our PD, I can make arrest, run names etc as long as I'm on my property. Often we're called security Police officers, SPO short. DOE, department of energy calls their contact security officers SPO's. As does DHS.
Constellis. Got a part time gig at the FDIC building. I did the whole DHS region 6 contact through VT-SGI fire a few years and I can say fuck then
I've only had one try to bite me and it was a really half-assed attempt. Tard strength usually isn't a problem because at full development they're usually malnourished and sort of decrepit because they tend to be bed-ridden a lot of their lives.
The more important part is to always either keep your mouth closed or wear a mask. Diseased homeless like to spit as a means of fighting back. Poor nurse got HPV spit in her mouth the other day. She basically spent the next 2 hours rubbing sanitizer wipes through her mouth.
OP here's a link to the vest I wear. galls.com
What are hollow points. What is not using a meme round that over penetrates. You're a noguns aren't you? Or worse, a boomer that open carries a 454 casull?
Armored cars in this area are ass. The A/C is always out and it's hotter than fuck.
Correct me if I'm wrong, while less likely, can't a hollow point still ricochet? It's still going to penetrate completely through an unarmored target, unless I'm just retarded.
I’ve heard about that contract. Honestly I haven’t heard to many positive things. A tip though, the TSA contracts are by far the best they have
Which is why you train with your gear for holster draws, different ranges, and knowing what your accuracy limits are for engagements and times. You seriously are an armchair boomer aren't ya?
Are you guys armed? I know out here in KS / MO casino security have to be EMS, same where your are?
everyone here talking about ballistic vests while hospital security should be rockin' full fuckin chain-mail
Yes I know armored car jobs suck. For someone trying get into armed security, it's a good place to start. Why, the fuck anyone wants to work armed security is beyond me
This might be heresy on this board but I'm fucking glad security don't carry firearms at my hospital.
70% of your job is just showing and looking big, the remaining 30% is wading in wrangle tards, crazies and demented old grandmothers. Carrying a gun offers too much of an incentive to escalation and far too much of a risk that someone will grab it off you. You can't practice proper retention techniques when your primary responsibility required you to get in grappling close and dirty.
That said, I CC against hospital policy because my job is to step away from delirious retards and write a script for the rest of y'all. My lcp can stay safe, concealed and away from the melee.
OP here and the SafeLife iiia+ looks like the way to go for me. Mostly worried about a knife to the gut where I work.
I have no interest in TSA. I couldn't stand at a X-Ray machine all day. Dealing with pissed off people. Plus TSA doesn't carry, desu I think unarmed security is just a great way to get killed over nothing
We've had several shootings out here at hospitals
You're not completely wrong, there is higher risk but so long as you keep the tards in front of you and be mindful of where your firearm is, you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever. I doubt a tard could reverse-draw from a retention holster with the slide facing him/her.
Also this. Hospital shootings are only slightly more rare than school shootings.
>faggot wagie
I'm leaving boxes of Xtreme Penetrators and Liberty ammo in the streets, so you get killed by some dindu's hipoint and the ammo gets banned by whiny blueniggers. Fuck you xD
Yes, I understand that's true, but if and when it does I want to be able to meet force with force
ya, required to be armed one of the last casinos with armed security
no. Constellis has armed security contracts for TSA. You’re not a TSO. I’m sure you didn’t know this, because most people don’t, but TSA does a lot more than just airport screening. I did security for a TSA Multi-Agency operations center. It was a great place for networking. A lot of my colleagues got picked up by federal agencies for Federal Air Marshals, CBP, USSS, Pentagon Police and others.
I'm a co that works in IMU. We don't even wear stab proof vests during emergent cell entries. Stop being such a faggot.
Do they check if yoire carrying? If not carry. Former security guard for a pharmaceutical packaging plant and i wasnt allowed to either but it saved my life, will provide story if interested tho ive told it here before
Armor, you dont have the money as a security guard to replace it with something high end tbqh, if you cant carry, youre as good as dead if someone wants a shoot you anyhow
Blue alpha gear is decent, pretty hard to super fuck up a duty belt
Cuffs dont matter and are likely fine
Baton, desu not that useful, carry a maglite for a flashlight, much more reliable
Get out of security asap, especially if you cant carry, atleast get a job doing security that allows carry
Dont get cocky
If you havent already, learn wrestling or judo
Wrestling better for control, judo better for dealing with hand to hand
I was agreeing with you.