ITT: We discuss the viability/ pros and cons of using an RMR on your CCW
It’s 2019 boys, the future is now. So tell me; why are you still carrying with iron sights? Are you a fudd? Are you afraid of the future? When are you going to accept that RMRs are superior to your Civil War era iron sights?
I'm strongly considering an RMR for my Glock 20 but when it comes to CCW I have some issues
- less concealable
- quite costly for a good one (not Vortex/Burris)
that's pretty much it
>irons
-will still work in extreme temperatures and weather
-most forces that would render them unusable would probably turn your handgun into a paperweight as well
>rmr
-glass
-battery operated
-adds bulk to an already strange profile to conceal
You should practice with both. Should your RMR go down, being able to use your iron sights still helps.
People get sentenced harsher for RMR sights. There was this one guy who CC'd a Glock 40 MOS equipped with a Trijicon RMR, shot someone trying to take his car, now he's in jail for 35 years.
irons dont fog up
Source?
I can't stand the amount of nogunz faggots we have in the legal system. If a person feels more comforatble/accurate with an RMR, they should be fine carrying a pistol equipped with an RMR.
B U L L S H I T
gimme a source for that immediately.
+ faster target acquisition, be it while moving or over longer distance
+ don't have to focus on sight aligment nearly as much, can shift said focus on the threat instead
+ by far the best, most visible option in low light conditions
- expensive
- harder to conceal, less comfortable to carry
- can get fucked up by bad weather (rain drop falls in in front of the LED making it useless, the window can get all fogged up if you are moving from hot to cold enviroment which is even worse since it also prevents you from using BUIS as well, etc.)
- the battery can go out for whatever reason at the worst possible moment, even if you replace it frequently
- can lose zero if struck with enough force
- electronic failure can happen
>So tell me; why are you still carrying with iron sights?
The biggest reason for me is concealability and comfort. Carrying all day everyday is a pain in the ass as is.
or maybe having a nogunz tacticool sights on a fucking handgun serves no purpose, and can only come to your detriment
Evidence? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Does that state even have a castle law? Because it sounds like they don't
+1
hes 1000% talking out of his ass
I can't stand the amount of nogunz and idiots within the firearm communities that can't recognize and not react to absolute bullshit when they see it.
>why are you still carrying with iron sights?
cuz i pocket carry and i ankle carry. Enough weight already
>CC'd a Glock 40 MOS
wtf dude must've been a behemoth
>shot someone trying to take his car
that may be more dependent on his jurisdiction and actions than on what his sights were.
also, source.
>get sentenced harsher
That’s true for all tactical and semi auto.
>implying he got 35 years because he was justified in the shooting but his gun was too tacticool
Thats now how it works retard.
Neither do rmrs if you dont poorfag it.
I semi open carry my glock 20 (owb, with hoodie over gun) it has an rmr on it, fucking worth it
This. It's more convenient with an OWB. I have a shitty pull proof blackhawk that I use during the winter. My 26 is so small the optic really isn't a big deal. I ditched the iron sights because I never bought a cut slide, but I plan on it soon. Also crosspost from EDC thread because I don't wanna pull my piece at work.
If you are actually skilled with iron sights, RMR's are a huge setback. I know a few guys in USPSA and IDPA trying out RMR's, and it's like the years spent developing their speed and accuracy are totally wiped out.
One guy is a Master (5/5) class in IDPA, and he tried a 1911 with an RMR and his qualifier was marksman (2/5). Sure with hundreds of hours of retraining himself he can get back up there, but is it worth starting over?
If you are a noob with no skills anyway, might as well get an RMR and start skill building there.
That being said, if you put in the work, RMR's are better than iron sights, but you can't just buy them and install them and expect to be faster or more accurate.
It isn’t starting over. An honest downside to pistol red dots is a consistent draw and presentation so you aren’t searching for the dot. Noobs struggle with that, a competitive pistol shooter doesn’t. If it was his first time trying it that makes sense but within a few hundred rounds he would be back to the same or better. The only reason he wouldn’t is if the sight was mounted way too high.
Your argument is the same that was used on scopes and red dots on rifles initially, yet everyone now uses them because they are better. It doesn’t get rid of the need to train but everyone can shoot quicker with a red dot than irons assuming a very base level of competency on a rifle.
Switched platforms and i want to put a couple thousand rounds through it before throw stacks of cash money at it for proper milling and shit
> less concealable
Not really a thing, desu. The placement doesn't really effect printing.
((you))
>rmr never fogs
Hahaha no.
Every RMR I've seen fogs up once indoors in Canadian winter.
They do though.
Live in a better place? I'm not the guy you're responding to but good RMRs don't fog up. I live in the south where it's humid enough to make glasses fog, but I've never have a foggy RMR. Even if I did I can still see the dot, it's no worse than shooting with iron sights because you have the same field of view with a foggy RMR and irons.
>Live in a better place
>dude RMRs are totally immune to bad weather, unless you live in a place with bad weather
> live in the south where it's humid enough to make glasses fog
>he doesn't understand that red dots fog mainly when going from cold to hot environments
lmao
>he looks THROUGH the red dot on a handgun
You do know how to use a red dot, right? fogging isn't really a big deal, and there are anti fog coatings