>Development just started in the 90s
>Country falls apart
If they were given a bit more time, could they have developed the Object 299 Burlan into something worthwhile? It had 152mm.
Development just started in the 90s
Anthony Bennett
Aaron Kelly
Sure, but they didn't. It's kind of a moot point. Would've been nice if the cold war had stretched another 4-5 years tho
Leo Rogers
It would have ended up like every other Soviet/Russian military project. No funding because they're a socialist shithole with an economy in the gutter along with half their population and conscript corps who are dying of cirrhosis. Even if the design worked well the production issues due to a lack of quality raw materials and skilled labor (see socialist shithole above) means that the quality control is going to be so out of whack that you'll have to scavenge pieces from dozens of "working" units just to maintain one of them at fighting strength.
Carson Perry
>152mm.
what a fucking meme gun
how much ammo does it carry then? separated in how many different ammo racks? what is the ammo selection looks like?
1/2 for hard targets and 1/2 for soft targets? will be really useful if you have only 30rounds in total in 2 or more different racks.
will be a lot of fun if your entire unit has to retread after a very short engagement of 5 minutes because they ran out of ammo or restock the ammo rack and the crew has to leave the tank for that
just another typical soviet design, looks great on paper but you dont want to sit inside of it if the shit hits the fan
Chase Jones
>Autoloader
That's racist
Julian Lee
Chinese survey says you don't need more than 24 shells. As long as you have supreme accuracy and infinite precision, even 12 shells is enough to utterly destroy a target before you need to re-arm. Keep in mind that it is 152mm, almost naval caliber in super kinetic energy according to Chinese reports.
Nolan Fisher
Autoloaders have come a long way from the primitive Russian and Chinese designs- Look at the ones on the Leclerc and TTB. The truth is that whether the army likes it or not falling recruit numbers will mean the next tank has one.
Kevin King
>Object 299
>Development just started in the 90s
In the 80s.
Angel Gray
OP is talking about the Burlan.
Camden Hall
Engine block in front of crew and autoloader/low profile turret seems like a recipe for very good survivability. Would have been interesting to see how it would have turned out
>Socialism
Brody Lopez
>No funding because they're a socialist shithole
>Talking about the country who built titanium submarines
Gavin Reyes
The Soviet Union was socialist, yes. I don't give a shit if that offends you because you don't want to be associated with communism but it's true. Communism is just a more extreme form of socialism.
Blake Wood
And now half of them are scrapped, sold, or rotting away in their berths.
Parker Reyes
2020-1
>Still believing liberal propaganda
You have no idea what you are talking about. The Soviet Union was never socialist. The workers did not own the means of production, plain and simple. You can't have an industrial democracy without widespread individual firearm ownership and nongovernmental unions. Lenin was just a nationalist republican with progressive trappings. Go read some Orwell or Bordiga, do you some good
Luis Fisher
imagine believing the utopian writing on the box and never figuring out that the manufacturer puts the same shitty product inside.
every single time
>people like you are why capitalism only works in theory
Sebastian Bell
Did you read any of my post, that was my point
Aiden Clark
the Soviet Union was 'socialist' and 'communist'; they're like socialism and communism, but with human nature chucking wrenches in the theoretical definitions
no country has ever had the workers own the means of production, and never will
no country will equalize doctors, politicians, HR department staff and trash collectors
no government will try and achieve these things without seizing power and never letting go of it
Hudson Hernandez
did they wrote this before or after they fried an aborted baby and ate its brain?
Evan Johnson
China is using ElectroChemical guns that has higher range and more efficient so you don't need to clean it after firing like American guns that are so inefficient. China uses liquid cooled guns that can fire for forty minutes sustained without fear of bending. China uses ramjet powered artillery shells that are regarded as super missiles by the West because it is guided and yet costs the same as a regular shell. A simple J-DAM kit is installed instead of a regular proximity fused and now the shell is guided and can glide and using superior kinetic energy because of ramjet power, the shell has the same impact of a 305mm American gun only more powerful because the shell also has a warhead.
Samuel Flores
OP is talking about Object 299: a family of modular vehicles one of which was supposed to be a tank. The development of Object 299 began in the 80s and by late 80s several full sized test mock-ups were on trials.
Jackson Myers
>If they were given a bit more time, could they have developed the Object 299 Burlan into something worthwhile? It had 152mm.
>could they have developed the Object 299 Burlan
>Object 299 Burlan
>Burlan
Christian Reed
For the destruction of the entire population of the United States 10 intercontinental ballistic missiles RS-28 Sarmat will suffice.
Connor Nelson
>Development just started in the 90s
Development of Object 299 started in the 80s, period. "Burlan" is a name of research project by SKBM from 2010. Neither originate from the 90s.
Parker Ramirez
That's wrong info. Burlan started development in the 90's. Stop making up fakenews, Mr. Ukrainian.