You might be able to own a bizon in your lifetime

>you might be able to own a bizon in your lifetime
What a time to be alive.

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Pros:
>it's a bizon
>9x18, 9x19, possibly 7.62x25 as options
>original and new style mags
>sub-$1,800™
>already working out contracts for production
>easy to SBR

Cons:
>pistol only, with a brace

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>My subgunfu might actually be available within my lifetime
Are we getting the full 64 one in 9x19 or 9x18, or is this going to be the slightly reduced 50-something 9x19?

64 for 9x18, 53 for 9x19.

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>64 for 9x18
Know any good US sources for 9x18?

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It amazes me that yanks piss and moan about the brace thing, some are as good as stocks. I'd give my left nut for one of these, I'd take it in pink if I had to.

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I love them. Anyone who doesn't is probably a bootlicking fudd. The only guns I have that have actual stocks at this point are my bolt guns and my a4 clone. Fuck the ATF and SBR laws.

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They’re a lot better than they used to be, but the triangle or overfolding AK stocks are more aesthetic.

Crossing my fingers this won’t turn into yet another crowdfunded vaporware scam gun.

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Let me know when it’s on the shelves.

>t. still waiting for K-USA vityaz

I'm all for impractical guns, 90% of my guns are meme weapons, but having the Bizon be an SBR only totally makes sense. They've got to be really front heavy with that much ammo hanging off the front.

i know a guy

Idiot they already sold out their first batch on Atlantic.

GIBS

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... yeah where did the VSS guy go.

No idea. He hasn't posted anything on Facebook or Instagram since November 23rd.

Eh ill probably get a brace, why SBR it if you cant have a foregrip

Decades of waiting are finally going to be worth it, can we fet a groza next?

Did they really sell out, or is Atlantic just using “sold out” as a placeholder for an upcoming product? They do that sometimes.

>can we fet a groza next?
The Norinco Type 86S that was imported back in the 80’s is pretty close.

oh I did not know he was that active I thought he droped off like years ago.

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The guy making the Bizon said he might do the Groza next, but he might have been kidding about that.

>bizon in tok
do want
how much of my money would you like?

Where

Kalashnicohn has been building/helping people build them for quite some time. Doesnt mean they'll ever be available commercially.

Kalashnicohn is a meth-head scheister.

I know that no one likes him, but has RusBakes ever sold one of his?
and also, does the bizon have reliability that parallels other ak platform rifles? Cause if not then I'm just buying a calico instead.

whatever the fuck his name is, idc

.380 ACP.
Yes, it will work just fine.

>K USA's Vityaz actually came out
>PSA will figure out their Vityaz knockoff eventually
>Bizon """pistol""" soon

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3d print?

I hope so.. God I hope so. RE7 made me fall in with the gun all over again.

What is Vityaz?

9mm Kalashnikov-style PCC with a short barrel.

>did Vince ever sell an illegal unregistered machinegun
No you fucktard. Sure likes to brag about it tho.
He just helps bring in mags, furniture, otherwise unobtanium parts. I think like 75%+ of all Bizon mags in the US (which isnt much, less than 20) passed through him.

>helical mag that isn't even gravity assisted like the calico
You guys know its probably a piece of shit, right? Its your money, but Id wait for reviews. Especially since its been conspicuously superseded by the Vityaz in Rus service, which is basically the same thing without the drum.

Yeah I'm sure the Russia military continued to use and produce a magazine for their spec ops that doesnt work
Also you're aware US citizens own Bizons and have reported zero problems with them, right?
It's okay I know that sounded smarter in your head. Just try to think before you post next time

Which of those rounds is the one true 9mm?

>Yeah I'm sure the Russia military continued to use a magazine for their spec ops that doesn't work
Do they though? I mean actually use, not just parade around in VV kuzmin photosets from 2012.
>Also you're aware US citizens own Bizons and have reported zero problems with them, right?
Not exactly a reliable sample size. Ive got a stack of thermold mags that run fine, doesn't mean that thermold mags are in a broad sense reliable.

Look dude, no need to get condescending and sour because I shat on your favorite videogame gun. I get that you want it to be good, fine, but just temper your expectations.

Chitin Defense here.

The older Calico-style mags and the interim aluminum ones can have some feeding issues. This was remediated in the later polymer magazines where the feed lips had a tapered chute for the round implemented and the design was reversed - the helical elevator is in the center and the splined housing that moves the rounds up the elevator through spring tension is on the outside of this, but inside the main magazine housing.

The later ones are very reliable.

Helical magazines are still used in Russia today with the PP90M1.

If helical magazines are not your jam, I am developing a modular magazine adapter that utilizes the front hinge and trigger guard for mounting. I have a 3D printed model done, but they will be aluminum. Aiming for EVO mags first, but will also male adapter wells for Vityaz/KR9 mags, potentially MP5 magazines, and Colt pattern magazines. The Vityaz orototype was just that - a modified Bizon with a magwell for Kedr or Kiparis magazines (I can’t really tell)

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it will bounce down the barrel

Relevant Vityaz prototype picture

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It's like Saiga-9.

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Post chitincock

I'll marry you if you keep the price below $1800.

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You understand that you're making a money printer, right?

big if true

Only if you buy at full MSRP

Jesus that's sexy

Largo

The fire rises. I wonder what's the next piece of obscure slavshit we'll get to buy in the future.

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My dick

So wheres my VSS at? Slagga hasnt posted new progress in a bit.

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Oh I thought it was a plasma rifle or something
Ur dumb

Bump

>SHOT Show 2020
Check out our new Cardboard Mockup™ of the Bizon! Preorder now for only $1800!
>SHOT Show 2021
Bizon will be ready soon! We're making it predominately in .233 and compatible with PMAGS!! It will still be available in 9x18, but the mags are $100 apiece. Preorder now for only $1950!
>SHOT Show 2022
It's too expensive to make accurately, so we kept the general shape of the Bizon, and upgraded it with hex screws! No more pesky rivets to worry about! Preorder now for only $2100!

learn from history. pic related.

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But the Bizon realistically isnt much harder to make than other 9mm AKs.

>sbr

Fuckoff

Yes. It shares 60% of the parts with the AKS-74.

delet this

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We're also now offering the Bizon™ in your choice of Cerakote™ FDE or Cerakote™ Multicam Black! The muzzle is threaded in 5/8x24 to make it compatible with most AR-15 muzzle devices.

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>60% of the parts with the AKS-74.
so 40% of it will shear off within 500rds? neat

I didn't mean the full gun lol
His parts arrived in kits, what I meant is if he ever sold one of his kits, which I guess is no then

So what you're saying is, they aren't in stock or some would say, ON SHELVES

I like your pistol.

>you might be able to spend 5 months and like 3k welding together a russky piece of shit
cool beans man

Y-you too...

jesus wept

So. What's the big deal? I can never keep up with everything people are buzzing about on the gun world.

Wasn’t zasta building one?

Well well well how the turn tables.

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9x19 of course. Been around longer than even the fuddy five and is the most popular pistol round today. Goat

I loved that gun in Syphon Filter.

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who dis

you talking about slagga? they're probably trying to work out production

Dis Chitin Defense

Just like getting a semi Kriss (aside from 10mm) what's the point.
Never going to get a bizon with a fun switch.

Pretty sure the latter, cause it was "sold out" even before they released their shooting video aka when they got their shipment.

...

OH BOY

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over 50 rounds per mag seems like a good reason to me

Make a website already, retard. People need a place to keep track of the product other than an Instagram account. Relying on an Instagram account to solely represent your company image is terrible PR.

Are those avaliable as an 80 receiver?

I'm as big a fan of slavshit as anyone, but honestly, what's the point in paying that much when we already have a domestic equivalent with a double stack helical mag that comes in rifle and pistol flavors?

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