Resources: Armyranger.com For Ranger info, obviously.
sealswcc.com/ SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum
Shadowspear.com All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
A-10s are like brick shithouses. Big, thick, but reliable and happily do dirty things.
Henry Jones
>Addition kek
Jose Taylor
I'm 18 and graudating high school this summer. Thinking about joining the army or marines and going to talk to a recruiter as the summer nears. Wich of these two branches is best for a kid fresh out school? Which job will fit someone my age best where I won't be out of place?
Dylan Jenkins
Im 19, about to turn 20. Have an almost obsessive need to support myself without family's help. Might be out of a house soon, what do Jow Forums?
Thinking of joining the marines, and was wondering what do tanker and aav crew do along with what are deployments or time on meu is like?
Jose Wright
i'm typing this form my airforce dorm in tech school currently and this shit is lit if you want to be self sufficient at 18 or 19
Chase Lopez
AFSC? Sounds like a you're having a good time
Colton Foster
Where can I buy 30mm shells?
Brayden Johnson
It's edition you Meathead
Carter Jones
>he dont math
Jacob Jones
good goy die for israel your greatest ally
Brody Cooper
I'm 32 and in decent shape mentally and physically. I suck at math but I'm pretty good at everything else. I really like helping/caring for/dealing with other people. Shooting at people or being shot at is fine with me. What are some decent prospects for me in the military?
I have a bachelor's in something the military doesn't give a shit about
No real job
No family
Adam Harris
>I have a bachelor's in something the military doesn't give a shit about You can commission as an officer anyway. Officers get better pay and quality of life. They don't deal with a lot of the bullshit enlisted do, and at your age anything enlisted is a waste of time.
What branches were thinking about or what jobs were you considering?
Logan Wood
>You can commission as an officer anyway.
Is that actually true? I thought you had to have a degree in something real like STEM
>What branches were thinking about or what jobs were you considering?
Army or Marines. Jobs I don't know about. Something where I get to deal with real shit and actually do something. I don't want to be counting beans or tidying up an office. I'd like to do something that matters, whether it involves dropping ordnance on people or not. Like I said in my original post, I like dealing with people. Mentoring/guiding younger people to avoid mistakes and get stuff done would suit me. I don't mind starting at the bottom and learning how to do stuff. I just want whatever I do to be something real rather than bullshit. Sorry if that's too vague, I'm just not sure what my options are. The only thing I'm sure of is that I have the proper attitude to succeed at whatever I do.
Ryan Wright
Kek
Julian Sanchez
>Is that actually true? I thought you had to have a degree in something real like STEM Nah, I know fucking pilots with psych degrees.
Isaiah Murphy
>Is that actually true? I thought you had to have a degree in something real like STEM Yes as long as your GPA wasn't terrible >Something where I get to deal with real shit and actually do something >Mentoring/guiding younger people to avoid mistakes and get stuff done would suit me. Maybe look into Warrant Officer. They get the best of the officer side and the enlisted side. they still do their technical work but dont have to take shit
Hunter Wilson
Is the dlab hard?
Angel Bell
officer is the best way to go but it wont be exactly what you're looking for
Daniel Rogers
>but it wont be exactly what you're looking for
Why do you say that? And what do you think I'm looking for? Honest questions.
>Yes as long as your GPA wasn't terrible
3.5 IIRC. That should be good enough right?
>Maybe look into Warrant Officer. They get the best of the officer side and the enlisted side. they still do their technical work but dont have to take shit
I'll keep that in mind and look into it, thanks.
Grayson Parker
3.5 is fine.
Whether you decide to go for CO or WO dont do enlisted. If you stick with it you'll be surrounded by high school kids for years and work for McDonalds tier pay.
Lincoln Wilson
>If you stick with it you'll be surrounded by high school kids for years and work for McDonalds tier pay. this isnt necessarily true. college credits let you join at a higher rank depending on how many you have
Hudson Lewis
>dont do enlisted. If you stick with it you'll be surrounded by high school kids for years and work for McDonalds tier pay.
Noted, thanks. I wanted to go officer but I just wasn't sure that was even an option.
Lincoln Wood
I guess the answer is here is I'd better talk to a recruiter.
Jace Powell
>this isnt necessarily true. college credits let you join at a higher rank depending on how many you have The highest you can get with credits is E4 the last time I checked. That's not a good spot unless your under 22. Wanna know how I can tell you're a neverserved? Officer is the best choice, but talking to a recruiter can help you narrow it down to what you really want. Just be careful of the lies and mind games they'll play with you to fill their quota
Isaac Fisher
Good go slave away in my company so I can buy a new yacht
James Ross
>Just be careful of the lies and mind games they'll play with you to fill their quota
I've read about this, and I'm wary, but I don't know exactly what this will consist of. Any advice/resources I can turn to?
Should I treat a recruiter the same way I treat a police officer who's asking if he can search my car?
Evan Fisher
not that guy, but recruiters want to get you in, but on their terms. they're told what jobs are undermanned and will try to get people to sign on for them by lying about the job or trying to persuade with bonuses.
my recruiter would come up with bullshit excuses and convince me to take a different MOS. he went as far as to feign laziness and not answer his phone. this is on the enlisted side though i dont know abou the OCS process
Landon Morris
Can someone compare Navy CTN to Army 17C? How different or similar are they?
Mason Murphy
does anyone know if recon is still doing combat deployments? i got out in 2011 and was looking to re-enlist bc i have nothing else in my life. ex-tl told me that i should just go into the army and try out for sf, but that pipeline is like 2 fucking years long if you dont break a leg during sfas
Ayden Perez
On a meu you're just along for the ride and do basic bitch work as needed. That's really it. Deployments aren't going on right now really so idk what you're looking for
Kevin Price
Do you know how warrant officers work? Doesn't look like it
Levi Russell
Very similar. Army 17c is mostly under cyber com. Ctns are not strictly cybercom so they also do what 35qs do, depending on billet. Really it boils down to branch though and what you want out of your time in the military. both are chill but CTN is more chill. They technically can deploy on a ship but it's not common and they don't do anything when they do...yet
Brayden Long
how pissed will my natguard recruiter get if i tell him i want to join the usmc instead
Jaxson Hill
if you're in DEP, very if not, who cares?
Liam Johnson
This
James Ortiz
Honestly, I'm not sure myself. I guess I would like to see the world, but I assume most of my time if I join the marines would be stateside. I'm also tempted to join the air force instead.
Jaxson Harris
I've been attempting to get into Navy OCS for about 4 months now but my recruiter has been totally flaky. I recently found out that he was moved to the enlisted side and that I've basically been wasting my time. I'm going to talk to an Army Recruiter today since I'm sick of living with my dad and his 3 stepchildren. Is this a bad idea considering I graduated with a shitty degree 3.1 GPA? Can I advance with enough effort on the enlisted side?
Zachary Rogers
3.1 is good enough for OCS, a degree would also get you to E-4 specialist as enlisted. But the only reason to do that would be sub 2.5 GPA or desire to go into a specialized field (Army CID with a CJ degree, or Counterintelligence, both with the goal of going warrent), but you don't seem to want those.
Joseph Cook
anyone know anything about the Cal Air gaurd or reserves? then again I just turned 35 last week. but Im getting fat and waiting tables isnt cutting it. it would take me a month to get 2 miles under 15 minutes again. >just found out I can still join air force proper I took the asvab in high school and got like 98th percentile. but I know regular air force is all negro women yelling at competent men.
whats the california national guard or reserves like for air or army? or reserves? not about the money. just about the benefits/resume material. out of a bad relationship and have nothing holding me to anything anymore. a POG uniform would mean a lot to my dad I guess is the real motivation for me. normal air force I think I can get all the information I want from MEG but air/army guard and reserves in CA? anyone know anything at all? youtube is nothing but propaganda vids from spics and niggers talking it up.
Pick a job, go to training, come back home, resume life.
Earn a few hundred bucks a month, access to cheaper shitty health care, and maybe 1 deployment every few years(depends on unit).
I personally would suggest going for a long training job that gives a certificate or license, so you can get a full time paycheck for a year or so, to save up for when you get back home.
35T is chill as hell, and you can earn an AA and a bunch of comp certs. There are other good computer jobs, but this one is a bit more relaxed.
91F can get you an AA and gunsmith certification, if that interests you. I always see arms repair or arms room full time jobs for guard stations. Good way to earn uniform AND full time federal pay.
Easton Lopez
If it wasnt more than 140 bucks, you dont have to report it.
Also, just write received speeding ticket fined x amount and paid it/it was dropped/judge threw it out. Whatever.
Ryan Nguyen
neither could that american ship apparently
Evan Cox
thanks. the more I look into reserve and guard though why not just go full active airforce?
James Robinson
Is war really a ugly and terrible like the civilian world makes it out to be? Do soldiers generally enjoy war?
Luis Lopez
this thread is for americans
Dylan Lewis
Hey guy asking about AGR/Technician job here again. Now if I go the technician route, its like a normal job right and I dont have to worry about "boatspaces" or reenlisting or anything? Like I could potentially have that job until I retire? And if I go the AGR route is reenlisting easy or is it like the Marines where all the people get out because its difficult to get a spot in reenlisting?
Henry Russell
>tech You could keep that job forever, but the GS level doesn’t really shift so no extra money with rank and time. The benefit is that you’re more competitive if you want to move around in the federal world. You can also move around in the Guard for promotions and schools or deployment while retaining the federal technician employment. >AGR Essentially it’s a 3 year tour or active contract, but you can come off the orders without repercussion and go back to traditional drill status. Staying past the tour depends on the mission and unit, recruiters are AGR, and I’ve seen some do it for 10-15 years. One guy went E-5 to E-8 in recruiting then left when an E-9 slot came up, he went straight to a battalion ops AGR position. Networking is the biggest plus to the Guard, AGR guys usually help each other out and bounce around between different tours.
Noah Sullivan
So say I take the tech job and because the generals got their panties in a bundle it switches over to AGR in a year or two. Am I pretty much fucked? Specific job is aviation maintenance. (idk if youre the bro who helped me yesterday)
Aiden Johnson
Yes, it’s me again. So they’ll probably keep everyone in place if they switch over to AGR, which honestly is a better outcome for you. Career wise they’d keep the techs in place years because the grade min-max is so big. Kick around for 6-10 years as a mechanic and move up into an admin role or take a tour at state headquarters. Also if it were a true AGR only shop, you wouldn’t need to drill or AT unless you had to come in to support another unit.
Wyatt Foster
holy shit youre the biggest lying neverserved ive ever seen in one of these threads... why do you civies come here and post like you know what youre talking about? stop spreading innacurate information because you want to LARP
Matthew Martin
If you want to see the world then join the navy.
Christian Ortiz
>after 8 months, med waiver finally came in >went to the station to pick the job >11x op 4 with 20k sign bonus for 3 yrs >mfw
Yeah I was in the Marines and I was in NC the whole time aside from the DET to Mississippi I went on
Zachary Torres
>why do you civies come here and post like you know what youre talking about? It’s the autismo equivalent to the gun shop commando, or the 5.11/grunt style queer that ‘could’ve served but...’
Grayson Thompson
It's the same few guys who do this, I think. I don't know why, but they're losers regardless
Gabriel Perez
>What are some decent prospects for me in the military? National Guard
Joseph Parker
OK gents, so I am in the process of filling out paperwork for Navy OCS Pilot. Now I arrived at the question I dreaded, "have you ever been depressed for more than two weeks" or something like that. Now in high school I was proscribed zoloft and cymbalta because I was an angsty teenager but got off it before I got to college. Should I lie and just say no? If I do say yes will this nuke my chances?
Bentley Foster
So what do pilots do in their respective branches?
this. please dont post advice unless you've actually served. it should be a bannable offense. also, its painfully obvious when you dont know what youre talking about.
My recruiter just texted me what the fuck do I do someone please help Background >in uni >go see recruier over christmas break >get 90 on practive asvab, I'm pretty Jow Forums >give him my number >back at school for a few weeks >today I get a text saying "hey user how is school going?" What the FUCK am I supposed to do about this? I want to join this summer but is this normal? Do recruiters text people and try to befriend them and shit? Is he even legally allowed to ask me personal questions like that?
Pick up your spaghetti user, he just wants to follow up. If you’re wanting to leave in the summer you really should be looking at signing a contract now anyways.
Isaac Long
Can you explain what's bullshit in this guy's posts? I'm interested in either enlisting or OCS and this generally what people tell me.
Lucas Mitchell
I don't want to leave in the summer, I was just going to go back to his office in the summer and signing up then Plus I'm a couple thousand miles away from him right now at school
Jace Russell
Air Force >Brief >Fly >Debrief >Plan sorties >Misc Officer stuff
Ryder King
he wants you to suck his dick. recruiter is the best dont turn him down
Luis Hughes
Not in military but >look into warrant officer As far as I can tell that's only available to mid level NCOs and civilians looking to become pilots.
Dylan Campbell
I can’t tell whether I should be impressed or terrified.
What designator are you shooting for? 3.1 is good to go for SWO, SNA, NFO, and I bet you could swing Supply. However, if you're trying to go Intel, you're just wasting time since it's very competitive at the officer level.
Ian Butler
Based retard
Samuel Ward
>recruiter is the best dont turn him down the best what?
Josiah Murphy
When is your 18th birthday?
Gabriel Richardson
Look I get it appears tistic as all hell but I was an only child with fucked parents so I pretty much just stayed in my room playing vidya or reading for my entire childhood. I'm not good with social interaction alright That being said is it normal for recruiters to text someone like that? He's a professional, not a friend
Dylan Taylor
yes it is normal, but he's only pretending to be friendly. youll encounter a lot during the enlistment process, especially during your investigation
Joshua Williams
Do you also cry when the McDonalds cashier ask how your day is going?
Dylan Powell
I don't eat at McDonald's you stupid piece of shit And you know what? The fact that you assume I eat at McDonald's on a somewhat regular basis shows that YOU are in fact a McFatass who eats there all the time You're a stupid fat fuck who wouldn't stand a chance in the military, at least I have the option to go
Ayden Hall
Investigation?
Connor Morris
>if you eat at mcdonalds you can't serve in the military Nani the fuck is this post
Angel Powell
during your security clearance investigation if you continue the enlistment process they'll be essentially play good cop with you to try to get you to come clean on anything that might disqualify you. not a problem if you dont have anything to hide
Brody Russell
is there much pussy at ft. benning? joint base lewis?
You wanna know how I can tell you're LARPing? It's because you're talking like you're in a James Bond movie. Get the fuck out of here. Fucking faggot I eat at McDonalds all the time. You fell for the Super Size Me meme didn't you?
Hudson Lee
Do you mean something other than criminal or medical issues? Because I'm clean on those
Jace Cook
Uh oh, hit a trigger point huh? Get fucked kid, McChickens are the best.
