Nothing personnel, kinder
*stops the German war machine*
Julian Sanchez
Noah Jones
it wasnt the winter that stopped the germans, it was their over extended supply lines and overtaxed logistical train
winter was just the final dump that russia decided to take on barborossa after a long string of problems that should have told them that victory was not gonna happen
Carson Clark
Don't ruin my meme with your fucking autism I got Holy Trips and you got Hitler dubs so let's just bask in this
Dominic Green
>expecting Turks to operate well in the snow
stupid burger.
Joshua Barnes
>implying hitler gave winter clothing to german soldier
>implying stalin didnt call in siberian fighters who were trained to fight in the cold
>implying germans didnt have to leave their horses on the side of the road as frozen as a popsicle
Julian Murphy
Nicholas Ortiz
the germans were woefully underprepared for it and the soviets were exploiting it greatly
the lack of winter clothing was a symptom and not a cause of the greater problems with the german supply system
winter, by itself, was not what stopped germany
it was a combination of germany being unable to properly deliver goods across an incredibly wide front covering an area three times the size of france while also running every train and truck they had absolutely ragged and facing much stiffer, better organized, soviet defenders who were willing to dig in rather than flee
Isaac Reed
Funny how Russian winter killed more Russians.
Jonathan Bailey
>better organized, soviet defenders
There's this funny part in Hoth's memoirs "Panzer Operations" where he mentions the Soviets are sending the Germans supplies for up to two days on average because they can't keep up with the territory they lost. They were literally supplying the German army for them. Easier just to spout military channel memes than read a book though I guess.
Alexander Nelson
the blitzkrieg was stopped by the rasputitsa, not the winter. in fact the winter was beneficial at first since it hardened the roads again.
it was the deep soft mud from that rasputitsa that stopped the german war machine, preventing all vehicles and tanks, as well as heavy weapons from moving forward, thereby delaying the attack on moscow a whole month. by then it was too late and the germans were fucked.
Parker Cook
>Easier just to spout military channel memes than read a book though I guess.
the real military history meme is the "soviets were only saved by winter" part that glosses over the sheer strain the germans had keeping up with their rapid gains
Justin Rivera
>the real military history meme is the "soviets were only saved by winter" part that glosses over the sheer strain the germans had keeping up with their rapid gains
Ha yeah you're right. All I'm saying is that the Soviets were not well organized or anywhere near decent. I'm just burned out of tankies and commutards trying to push the "deep battle" meme when their lead theorists got purged and their own side got deep operationed hard from the get go.
Good post. I've heard that the Mongols used to attack in winter for this reason, but I'm not sure if that's just folklore or not desu.
Levi Bailey
This. Russia's extreme poverty and technological backwardness is ironically what saved them. Germans weren't used to using such shit-tier roads, they'd been invading white countries like France, Czechoslovakia, and Poland for the past few years.
Ethan Butler
i meant better organized in comparison to their previous showing at ukraine, where entire armies made unauthorized retreats
by the time the germans were at the gates of moscow, the russians had seriously re-armed and were no longer going to simply fold when poked or outmaneuvered
Blake Reyes
>dabs on the entire German War effort
Not even the red hoard can compete.
Chase King
he... yet, the soviets still got assraped
look up the battles of rzhev and all previous operations
the germans hold their grounds close to moscow (with some setbacks) until april '43
their glorified Zhukov bit his teeth out at this front for over a year and they lost probably over 2 million soldiers while the germans only lost ~700k
>mfw be a german soldier
>have only summer clothing
>be somewhere near moscow
>russians in front of me
>partisans behind me
>lack of food and supplies due overextended supply lines and bad weather
>constant harassment from all sides
>fingers are freezing off
>russians are sending their elite forces from the far east
>they outnumber us in everything, troops, guns, airplanes, tanks
>they are lead by their best general
>they cut us off with their elite paras who teamed up with the partisans
>they are short supply lines, are near their capital and fight on their home turf
>they are charging on the back of a t34 my position perfect winter equipment and PPSH's
>while im sitting here with my no support and only armed with a K98
>still managed to kill 3 of them before i have to abandon my position a few kilometers back, fight through partisan and para infested territory
lmao!
Colton Murphy
autism
John Harris
>gases all the kikes in .5 seconds
Luis Morales
Binland is warmer than russia tho
Parker Flores
nay
Isaiah Richardson
William Lewis
mental illnes
James Wood
Doesn't matter what your K:D ratio is when you still lose.
Benjamin Cook
dubs of truth
Camden Allen
Noah Rivera
>Green where most of the Russian front was
>Cyan-ish in Finland
Isaac Scott
yeah yeah
Matthew Watson
disco
Jason Martin
It was actually just the Germans lack of oil and other raw materials
Brandon Jackson
The Germans fought like hell. They shoulda never invaded Russia. They shoulda sent their boys home to make babies and work in factories. After Russia invades, counterattack and free the lands they hit instead of mass graving them
Owen Myers
Wo ist die Luftwaffe?
Christian Gutierrez
dabs on the entire british bloodline