How come no one in the American military could come up with the idea of "Hey, maybe our landing boats should have doors that DON'T face the enemy machine guns"
How come no one in the American military could come up with the idea of "Hey...
Ayden Nelson
Isaiah Harris
>he doesn't know the machine gun emplacements were offset so the gunners would shoot up the length of the beach, not at the boats
Ryder Kelly
Because they didn't, movies aren't real. The beach was like 700 ft from the hill and the MGs didn't look out to sea .
Daniel Gonzalez
they did in the pacific actually
Mason Baker
Anyone who has ever been to Normandy knows that image is BS. The distances were far greater. Anyway all thing considered that landing wasn't so expensive considering the shit that happened in the war, americans just can't stop talking about themselves.
Grayson Bailey
where the fuck else are they gonna put it? on the back?
>soldiers pour out of the back of the landing craft
>into neck-deep water
>guys who don't know how to swim are fucked
>even guys who do are weighed down by now wet gear
>have to wade around landing craft to get to the beach anyway
>slow-moving targets for germans
>if you survived getting onto the beach, now you're soaked to the bone and still have to fight
there's no perfect place to put a door on a landing craft but fuck the front's probably the best
Jack Lopez
>where the fuck else are they gonna put it? on the back?
On the front, but let the doors open up on the sides. That way the entire crew isn't exposed from the front.
Gabriel Martin
You would be speaking German right now, without America, Faggot
Anthony Anderson
The Soviets won WW2, not the US. You would know what if your history education wasn't biased to brainwash your mutt mind
Cooper Mitchell
Hudson Foster
>where the fuck else are they gonna put it? on the back?
Literally yes. They'd already solved the problem, just couldn't deploy it in time for D-day
Bentley Anderson
They sure were good a Dying
Jordan Scott
Nah the soviets won the war.
Joseph Howard
Because the entire point is that you go onto the ground and not into the water you fucktard
Henry Russell
Because you're even more of a sitting duck if you're wading through neck deep water in full combat gear
Wyatt Nguyen
>vatnik talks about brainwashing
Jaxson King
Gee whiz that really sounds terrible looking at how things have worked out.
Lincoln Wright
imagine America invading Europe in 1941? No, you cant' because they would have been wiped.
Blake Sanders
>You would be speaking German right now
Ugh, I WISH.
Cooper Anderson
Tfw people without shoes, rifles, ammunition or even money won a war against a colossal military industrial power without any assistance from anybody else
Their strategy was literally throw as many men at the Germans as they can until the Nazis run out of ammunition.
Levi Perry
"Throw your soldiers into a position from which there is no escape and they will prefer death to flight."-Sun Tzu
They want them going forward, not hiding behind the boats.
Austin Nguyen
>The Soviets won WW2
Not without American lend lease. Although militarily they didn't do anything important ("b-b-but muh pacific", like who gives a shit), the logistical and economic contributions of the US cant be downplayed.
Matthew Garcia
>Tfw people without shoes, rifles, ammunition or even money won a war against a colossal military industrial power without any assistance from anybody else
>without any assistance from anybody else
Stalin himself said they couldn't win without Lend Lease.
Brayden Thomas
in reality the soldiers did not disembark from the boats and directly into machinegun fire. this was just some idiotic murder porn spielberg dreamed up because it was more interesting than the slow and frustrating battle that actually happened. in the film it appears that the landing took about ten minutes to go from the first wave to getting off the beach. in reality it took the entire day.
pic related, an actual photo of the beach, not some hollywood bullshit
Jason Miller
As well a tying up a bunch of German industrial output in the Defense of the Reich
Bentley Scott
Pic related
Lincoln Powell
Caleb Miller
>pic
for one you haven't been there, second they disembarked low tide fuck tard.
Jacob Turner
Those are my pictures, retard
Jace Lee
I hope this meme dies one day
Connor Robinson
>What are tides
Hudson Watson
These are mine deepshit.
Carson Lee
>Unironically posting a Jow Forums post as historical evidence
Jesus Wept no wonder 99% of the people here are dumb as a brick
Angel Thomas
t.kike
Colton Ramirez
>the soviets didn't win WW2 all by themselves
wow stop the presses this is some hard hitting historical research here
literally never seen this take ever
Wyatt Martin
tbf the british bombing campaigns were utter shit... They bombed the shit out of civilian targets in France and couldn't hit a fucking uboat pen so much they feared the French would turn against them in case of invasion...
Gabriel Garcia
Can you actually imagine this picture in color juxtaposed with ? I'm so mad.
Brandon Ward
Why don’t you go visit Normandy?
Lincoln Perez
the MG42, MG34 could reach 1,000 meters thus to you it not nothing but to an American infantryman that is long distance
Michael Morales
Spotted the butt hurt antifag
Luke Turner
It's times like this I'm glad Trump isn't going to build the wall. You deserve to have your kids raped by Mexicans.
Joseph Jackson
I didn’t say it wasn’t
Jaxson Ward
no, because the tide clearly isn't nearly close... Maybe you show up at the correct time the next time you want to take a picture you deepshit.
Jacob Smith
so that is reason why we make a big deal out of it against modern emaplaced MG positions that is murder alley for an infantrymen no commander would want to do that to his men
Anthony Morris
You realize you can reverse search the evidence, right vatniks?
en.wikipedia.org
>The United States delivered to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1945 the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil) or 57.8 percent of the High-octane aviation fuel,[26] 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. Provided ordnance goods (ammunition, artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives) amounted to 53 percent of total domestic production
>soviets won WW2!
>nu-uh, it doesn't matter if they had so much US supplies!
Cope harder
Cooper Thomas
There really wasn’t anywhere else they could land
Sebastian Torres
>commander would want to do that to his men
They were only goyim.
Ryan King
>implying that's a bad thing
Zachary Sullivan
>soviets won WW2!
>nu-uh, it doesn't count because they were wearing US boots when they did all the important fighting!
Its not a cope, this lend-lease shit is just a non sequitur.
Eli Gonzalez
I know this is bait but I'll bite. It's the simplest method as it allows for the quickest evacuation of the boats contents whether it be men, supplies, or vehicles. The door method would remove any real capacity to carry supplies or vehicles and it would slow down the process of unloading soldiers. As for the back, on a boat its fucking retarded (propellers are a thing) but it was done on LCT's which were not possessed by the army at the time but by the marines.
>why could the army just get some then?
The LCT's were deployed from the inside of larger landing ships, ships that on Overlord were being used to carry larger vehicles like tanks and such. So if LCT's were used then they wouldn't be able to bring the tanks. The use of Higgins, Ducks and the english landing craft were the best option for the job at hand.
Alexander Gomez
I know but still the lack of taking a risk with aircraft doing CAS to me makes no sense, that and the fact shore bombardment was not better thought out makes no sense, granted enemy artillery kept them out of visual range probably it just bothers me, you take risk wiht men in combat and accept casualties but to me the last end of this was poorly though out
Jason Jackson
okay I can see that you are actually mentally disabled so I'll cut the sarcasm. here is what is actually happening here: I am making fun of you for thinking you're some sort of myth-busting badass for advancing a theory which has been accepted, mainstream opinion for over 70 years.
this is literally the equivalent of posting that water is wet and expecting to be patted on the ass for it
Easton Martin
watched enemy at the gates one too many times eh bob?
Sebastian Williams
Weather was shit. Weather was barely good enough for the c-47s.
It was either GO on that day, or they would have had to wait another month
Nathaniel Roberts
Bentley Diaz
how did that work? any pics or explanations? im a retard that trusted movies up untill now
Levi Hernandez
Brandon Wright
was was the point of those things on the beach? was it to stop ships when the tide was high?
Carson Cruz
Best I could find
Xavier Collins
There's no way the British Empire would had been defeated by Germany. No landing force, no navy, no air superiority, and none of the vast resources of a colonial empire.
Jaxon King
>7
forget that part, good point fair just when you actually been in charge soldiers stuff bothers you a lot more.
Andrew Wilson
huh, thats interesting. thanks!
Ryan Gomez
You're an idiot
You're also an idiot
No one cares about your nationalist shitflinging
>thinking the outcome of WW2 had anything to do with current year demographics
Picture related it's (you), you do realize who declared war first right?
Aiden Stewart
Brayden Davis
fuck Jow Forums. I have some great pictures of that exact position on the left in but Jow Forums says the file size it too large to upload
Christian Garcia
Shit was fucked at Omaha beach.
theatlantic.com
If you was the first wave and followed orders and tried to land there you was almost guaranteed death.
Bentley Taylor
I’ll wait friend
Ethan Young
Oh yeah the Soviets won the war alright, with all their American equipment, food, water, and money. Without that, Hitler probably would have beaten them
Oliver Diaz
Reminder that shitloads of spycraft and straight up misdirection made the Normandy landing less of a killing field than it might've been along with Hitler's shitty command
Julian Garcia
I’m eating some ravioli right now. I’ll try to resize once I’m done. 10min
Jacob Ward
ok so this is kind of a series. but this bunker is located to the right of this pictureas we were driving in. it had full view of the road that goes down to Vierville-sur-mer
Lincoln Rogers
just at the bottom of the position is a memorial for the 29th ID (VA National Guard)
Owen Brown
going all the way down to the beach is a information panel. facing straight out to the channel
Jack Edwards
Its kind of funny how russians managed to completely displace the fact that they are the ones that allowed hitler to rise up in first place. It is pretty telling how rest of the world considers WWII to have started in 1939, but if you ask a russkie, he will answer
>The Great Patriotic War 1941- 1945
Have you ever wondered why is that? Becasue in 1939 and 1940 russia was hitler's ally and partner. Right until 1941 Russia provided germany with steel, oil and all kinds of resources krauts needed to wage their war. For fucks sake, almost all german high quality steel production (the stuff used to make thanks, y'know? ) was completely relying on chrome and mangane imported from russia - and thats not even mentioning the iron itself which was also delivered courtesy of uncle Stalin. And the food krauts were eating? Almost quarter of german food were provided by the soviet import.
Russkies have a lot of gall bragging how about they defeated germany, when they are like a dindu that raised his pet pibble and then hails himself a hero after he fought him off when he tried to bite his head off.
Levi Green
looking off to the left, is the machine gun position overlooking the buildings
Chase Jackson
lets walk that way
Gavin Ortiz
Austin Allen
boots.. boots
Brody Walker
It's another
>brain dead Jow Forumstard somehow thinks the US would be better if Germany won somehow
episode
Dylan Davis
moving up and down again...
Leo Brown
so here is the empty remains of the bunker
Josiah Morgan
this is the view they would have seen
Evan Clark
Any of you guys ever read this? I like how it felt like a pretty even cross section of roles and personalities. And how they were all pissed that the armor never showed up.
Sebastian Scott
Fascinating
I’ve always wanted to visit the Normandy theatre, need to book a holiday this summer
Xavier Martin
if anyone is interested, this picture here is from the town of Etretat in upper normandy
Parker Anderson
oh what is this? looks right out of Saving Private Ryan
Hunter Lewis
Charles Ross
>that "shadow"
GTFOH with your obvious shops,, who are you trying to fool with these?
Jose Carter
Land locked Euros always overlook the massive naval strength it took to out match the Japanese in the Pacific. The all mighty royal navy wasn't gonna get that done on it's own. Gay europeans are gay
Gabriel Adams
Just got it off google, hence “best I could find”
Joseph Gonzalez
Idiotic murder porn? I'd call it the best depiction of what happened that day. I've read a really good account of what happened to the first wave after somebody posted the link on here. Whole boats of men absolutely did get cut down by machine guns but they were maybe 400 meters from the shore rather than 80-100 like in the "Spielberg murder porn" god damn you're a faggot.
Eli Sanchez
oh man it was. you should do it. You MUST book your Beach tour through the Caen Memorial Museum. they make life super easy for you. You can stay in Caen (hotels are better), you get a free pass for the Caen Museum which is fantastic. Its even built on top of a german command bunker. So with a Day Pass, you get free access to the museum, and then you have a very small private tour where they take you all over the place. It was just me, the guide, and like 4 other people. He gave us 45 min at each location to explore all on our own. So i went all over
normandy.memorial-caen.com
shall we go into the bunker at Pointe-Du-Hoc?
Matthew Jackson
>an mg42 would still be in its emplacement 80 years later
Christian Barnes
This. If those bunkers were coastal they'd be at the mercy of the navy with ease. Look what we did to Islands in the Pacific.
Jonathan Hall
So why shop one in? Again, who are you trying to fool?
Juan Nelson
Joseph Ward
>That little hut on the beach
I wonder how many guys his behind that. I would've.
Luis Garcia
Ever heard of a mock-up, dillweed?
Luis Collins
if nobody is interested im going to stop posting
Grayson Brooks
So why "mock up" the gun but leave in the parking lot and houses, fuck tard?