The Tiger I was an overengineered expensive piece of sh-

Nice, another Jow Forums shitposting thread except without flags. Just what this board needed.

>only the Germans achieved feats above and beyond the call of duty
Shut the fuck up you colossal dick riding wehraboo faggot

lel dude I was just trollin xd

Still fucking lost lmao

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why do you have to bring in charlemagne into this, us franks do not associate with saxons and their autistic nazi larpings

>the germans exaggerated their kills:losses for propaganda purposes
>check the soviet archives, they would never do that
okay bud

pic is me kamerad

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>us franks
Shut the fuck up you LARPing queer.

shut the fuck up you fucking stinking burger, im a dutch guy who can literally trace back his entire recorded family history back to the 1300s, not my fault we actually stayed to live in one place, and its always the fucking saxons to our east fucking shit up, look into it, the nazis hated franks just like their saxon forefathers

daily reminder that fighters from the french SS division were the last defenders of berlin

whose talking about french traitors lol, im frankish not french

Dabbing on inferior russian hardware and personnel isn't anything special Hans.

Your technical superiority didn't save you in North Africa, Normandy at Cherbourg, it didn't let you escape the falaise pocket, your technical superiority didn't save Caen, it failed you at Arracourt and it didn't win the Battle of the Bulge.

Classic Wehraboo bait threads.
Yeah, the tanks looked cool, but they were plagued with reliability issues and just because they had a high kill count doesn't mean they were right for the war that Germany found itself in.
Hell, the Royal Tiger used two gallons to get a mile, and the Nazis were running out by 1941. But yeah, complain that it was evil joo Bolshevik communism imperialism that stopped the horribly managed Socialist Imperial war machine.

>mfw burgers and teebs unironically think their part in the war even pales in comparison to the scale of combat on the eastern front
it's a good thing you cucks spent almost a year fighting 2nd rate troops/reservists/teenagers instead of the guys who went through 3-4 years of continuous combat on the eastern front without leave.

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>everything multiplied by 10
>not counting destroyed but evacuated tanks as loss
>counting kills by hit amount
There are still "people" who refer to german numbers? Lmao

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Soviet archives are the most accurate when it comes to counting casualities retard

sasuga kraut "over-engineering"

BRUH
LOOK AT THESE DUDES
WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE THEY HAVE NO STABILIZERS
OH NO NO NO NO NO

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meanwhile in reality

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>American propaganda! Jewish revisionism! Soviet nonsense!

Reminder that without the US, your country would be even more communist, and you owe your existence to us.

*dabs*

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*dabs agian*

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>Tiger Losses Total: almost the entire production run
>Tank Kills Total: not even a tenth of total T-34 production, let alone total Allied tank production
Whoa bros.... They truly were the Master Race.... Really makes me think.....

>nation literally made out of people who will go and die for the first better leader
>not NPCs

*dabs for the last time, 70 yrs later*

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>wake up
>operation unthinkable never happened

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>thinking FDR would do anything to hurt his beloved communist allies

>imagine the world had the former won.

Hitler dies and the Nazi party falls apart leaving Germany in control but completely directionless?

>expensive
Germany devoted more of its armaments production to its fucking navy than it did to tanks and SPGs, and in 1943 they made up < 7% of total weapons output.

The importance of tanks in WW2 is almost as big of a meme as the tanks themselves.

should have listened to patton famalam

>Hitler dies and the Nazi party falls apart
imagine getting your history from man in the high castle

Everyone in the line of succession hated each others guts and only Goebbels was the only one who had any popularity with the people. Also alt-history is trash.

that doesnt mean the party falls apart, you are talking out of your ass

>you will never live in a timeline where US armored divisions and SS panzer divisions roll eastward towards Moscow while the USAAC/RAF send bomber streams over the Urals to firebomb the fuck out of the slavs

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if you carefully look at the people around fdr you will see why it was not gonna happen

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>Massive power vacuum in a political party that just lost its, basically only, cohesive element
>Stable

Yeah, its got a long and prosperous future ahead. You know, after the upper echelons rip each other apart.

those are just assumptions on your part

HELP I lost the two part sherman pasta

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There's always some losers questioning German numbers but they never have anything to back it up.
One Russian "historian" in the 90s or early 2000s published an article to debunk Erich Hartmann's count and put it at 60-ish. The article was full of factual errors and was itself debunked.
Another "historian" claimed that Hans Ulrich Rudel's achievements were fake and put his total at roughly 50 without a single fact to back that up. Just based on vague things like "it was difficult to hit a tank from a plane so I don't think it can be that high"

Goering was an object of national ridicule and even in his own air force, especially after the war started. Himmler had virtually no influence outside the SS. Goebbels was a well known figure but had little respect within the Wehrmacht. None of them could stand any of the others leading. I can see a man standing on railroad tracks with a train rushing towards him, I can get a pretty good idea what will happen next.

>>>r/shitwehraboossay

shut up kid

just keeping the kids in check

Hess probably would fare the best I say, had he not gone full retard.

le ebin xD Jow Forums tier shitposts nice

>le ebin xD Jow Forums tier shitposts nice
rent free

Maybe, but he didn't exactly handle pressure well.

Germans are absolute boot licking npcs

>im a dutch guy who can literally trace back his entire recorded family history back to the 1300s
Alright pal, whatever you say. I'm sure you're definitely a part of an ethnicity that hasn't existed since the 7th century.

*dabs on all wehraboos*

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In late February, two Shermans were captured; their turrets were removed and they were converted into recovery vehicles, greatly improving the ability of the battalion to recover damaged Tigers

i dont get the point of showing a dead body in a tank and claiming the tank is a death trap because of it

war is inherently dangerous and unsafe, and even a very well made tank will inevitably suffer from casualties and often gruesome deaths
if 4/5 people survive, then that would be extremely safe for a WW2 tank
the fifth man was unlucky to be sure, but that doesnt mean he was riding in an unsafe tank

by this logic, the bob semple would be the safest tank in the world because no pictures of casualties were ever taken

AND THEY STILL LOST

In every single one of those battles they were 1. heavily outnumbered, 2. out of fucking fuel, or 3. had literal 15 year olds with no training driving tanks

What historian hasn't been debunked counting the numbers?

>designed to destroy enemy tanks at a favorable ratio to justify its cost
>can only build 1500 of them, far too few to create any sort of strategic impact on the battlefield
>is heavy and fuel inefficient, making it difficult to transport and maintain

anyone can make a tank that can destroy a very high amount of enemy tanks, if they are willing to invest enough time and money into doing so
its just that its very rare for such a design to be really worthwhile