Talk me out of buying an MPX Jow Forums

talk me out of buying an MPX Jow Forums

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dont.....stop....dont do it....
(do it)

Scorpion Evo has more aftermarket support, and is cheaper. From what I've seen from others, concerning the Evo, it runs well.

Why wouldn’t you? It’s just as good as an HK made MP5, far more modular, and it’s way cheaper.

its made by shit saur

I do like the evo a lot, but if user wants an MP5 then by god he should get one.

Cant slap it, why would you want an MP5 you cant slap.

Hey sorry, this thread is for people who actually own firearms.
>make unsubstantiated claim
>has obviously never shot an MPX or seen the reviews
We gotta noguns here folks.

Is this better than those Zenith MP5s that you most definitely can't and shouldn't accidentally put in a FA trigger group?

>nuSIG
Get the Skorpion instead.

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rule 34 on MP5 slap

and in comes shit saur's shill from india to shill his overpriced plastic.

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I actually was trying to decide between the scorpion and mpx. The scorpion has a better price point and the mags are cheap as hell. I dont like how it's all polymer though also was a little worried about CZ quality. Was hopping the MPX would be worth the extra $400 for quality sake.

>Worried about CZ quality... in comparison to nuSIG
:|

MP5 looks cooler

I've never owned a sig or a cz so I dont have a point a reference.

The original SIG, from Switzerland, was great.
The German made SIG's are great, too.
Modern SIG charges an arm for significantly poorer quality guns. They get their parts made in India via MIM and then assembles them in the US.
They also rush products to market with little to no testing.

never used the sig but I have a sbr scorpion with the 3lb trigger, better grip and it's pretty nice. No hangups after 3k rounds.

how does the polymer feel?

Get it. It's objectively the best 9mm platform at the moment.

If price point is a concern, and mags, the scorpion is a good option, but an AR9 is better than the scorpion in every dimension (price, tunable recoil, greater modularity, better and cheaper mags (glock) ).

user you should look at how many firearms nusig has introduced and discontinued in the last 10 years. Just get a 9mm AR15 that you will be able to actually get parts for.

Get a Mp5 clone or a Vector.

1399 the mpx, red dot, and folding brace. Good deal?

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$50 a mag

What's the value of spending 1300 on an mpx over 600 on an ar9?

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If larping as the 'gayminator' is your thing, it might be a good buy. Otherwise, I can fully recommend the Scorpion.

>costs more than an actual swiss made gun for exeter shit

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Crap - Sorry after a Google search, it turns out that was the MCX. So turn off that dub-step, you're doing it wrong.

From what I gather the scorpion is better in every aspect?

Installing aftermarket trigger groups voids the warranty
You cant replace the barrel without sending it to Sig
Did my part

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I have an MPX and had a scorpion. The scorpion didn't have as good of support when I first got it. It feels cheaper and does not shoot aswell. The MPX is just smoother and feels better. Both of them shot very well. I shot nothing but garbage 9mm and they both run well.

I don't think the MPX is worth the crazy ass price people want for it. I was able to trade a buddy of mine the MPX for the ACR. I wouldn't trade or sell it though after owning it. A lot like the FN SCAR....expensive....work well for what you want.

>7777

dayuuuuum siggies btfo

The CZ has bulletproof reliability. I've put thousands through mine with no malfunctions.

Its solid.

Those are two pretty big OOFs.

>OOFs
I am not familiar with this acronym...

its not an acronym.

wow a post that isn't a buzzword filled meme

It means he's a zoomer

id do it

Oh, is just mental problem. I get it now.

Are trigger groups ar pattern? I.e. do they take ar trigger groups?

>go to lgs mom and pop
>AR10 wooden furniture
>want
>come back days later
>gone

>go to l(meme)gs
>evo
>want
>come back days later
>gone

>go back to mom and pop
>arisaka
>want
you get the picture...

There's a lesson here, and I think it's "Carry around $1,000 at all times." but I'm not sure.

Buy an mp5 instead?

Buy online dumbass.

I go to pistol carbine competitions every month and the MPX is a very popular carbine. And every single month I see them jam. Literally every month one or two MPXs has some fucking problem with the gas system and won't eject properly or some shit. Really, really turned me off the MPX.

>You cant replace the barrel without sending it to Sig

I've removed my barrel for cleaning numerous times, what are you talking about?

Just make one of these.

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It's the 474,512th AR variant that brings practically nothing new to the market except being an overpriced shooty bang, like every other PCC based on an AR ever.

>Mein Kampf
>Israeli Pistol Brace

For how much I dislike kikes they do seem to make a good glock carbine conversion.

Yes. I own one ask me anything.

Just get a regular 9mm AR
>glock magazines
>AFTERMARKET glock magazines

>mp5
>mpx
??

its a mini arshit

Get the scorpion. It's cheaper, but utterly reliable, braces are available, mags are available. Save the other $ for ammo and v training.

Keep posting, user. We need more posters like you.

you could also talk to the owners and ask them to hold on to it for you while you run to the automatic ATM machine and get some cash money.

I'm debating between a PWS PCC and a Ruger PC carbine... What do?

People put in aftermarket triggers all the time without issue and the new mpx PCC comes with a timney trigger anyways

I agree
I would say the mpx and mp5 are the smoothest pcc's I've shot with the mpx having better ergos and trigger than the mp5, but both are really overpriced

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The Scorpion is better and cheaper.

How do you like the quality? is the realiablity as finicky as people make it out? From what I gather online it has trouble cycling 115 grain and carbon build up is extreme after only 500 rounds. (not that I'm usually going shoot 500 rounds between cleaning but still I like high tolerances) Other than the Mag price my concern is that it wont be as reliable as the scorpion. I dont want to pay $500 more for a gun that wont take everything I can throw at it.

they're not exactly the same thing, user.

Considering the micro-Scorpion with brace and no optics is $1100, yeah.

That's $300 more with the difference being a sub$200 optic. Its a deal compared to the MSRP but not compared to the scorpion imo.

The MPX is leagues better than the Scorpion though.
>more accurate
>softer shooting
>much better factory trigger, much better aftermarket trigger options
>slightly better ergos (subjective)
>cleaner when suppressed
>lighter
IMO they're close enough in price at that point why not.

i need a source for the accuracy and better aftermarket triggers. and only the micro is close to the mpx pricepoint, the normal pistol is half the price of an mpx and is still less when a brace and the same optic is added.

>MPX is compatible with any and all aftermarket AR triggers
So the lowest pull weight you can get a Scorpion is somewhere around 4lbs. Yeah you can get it there with a $7 spring kit and an hour of polishing parts with a Q-tip covered in polishing compound, but there's nothing you can do about the long takeup and overtravel or creep. Compare that to a sub-2lb AR trigger with basically zero overtravel and creep and very little takeup, plus the plethora of options in trigger bow shape.
>source on accuracy
thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/03/foghorn/gun-review-sig-sauer-mpx-pistol/
>This target was fired from 15 yards, and for an 8 inch pistol caliber carbine that’s pretty darn good. More accurate than the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 pistol to be sure.

you literally cant afford it anyway so this larp is lame

There are fully adjustable drop in trigger packs for the scorpion. And that article states its more accurate without actually proving it.

So go google up the literally hundreds of other reviews that also claim the MPX is more accurate than the Scorpion, including the ones that are attempting to sing the Scorpion's praises. Like, goddamn, I'm not spoon feeding you any more.
>hey this Evo 3 S1 is bretty great! It's accurate enough for anything you'd ever need a PCC to do! Yeah the MPX is more accurate but it's also a bit more expensive!

my buttcoin account says otherwise. Stay mad poorfag.

>It’s just as good as an HK made MP5
pffffffffffffft

user. MP5 is great but the decades haven't been kind to her. She's a glorious MILF on one last hurrah.

>Made in India
>Good as MP5

get an APC 9 or hk mp5 instead

The scorpion is the only correct option. Just swap out the trigger springs, ambi safety, buy some cheap extra mags (they always go on sale), add a holosun 510c, get a sling, and you're g2g.

It's not bad, i use a vertical grip mostly though

Yes, it takes AR triggers

you can put a vertical grip on it as long as it has a brace right?

OAL needs to be over 26" with the brace fully collapsed.

>waiting for PSA's mp5 clone still

Their ak9 was a shithouse, I wouldn't get excited.

you unironically cant put a FA trigger group in them unless you cut out the shelf for the lower. Even then there is a denial cut in the bolt and a denial bar welded into the reciever

B&T is way better

The suppression is going to be a moot point as the skorpion is straight blow back and the MPX is piston driven

This is incorrect, 26"+ when extended is legal according to SB Tactical.

>be a moot point
piston suppresses worse than blow back. louder

purely from the standpoint of semi auto range toy the mpx is going to be a better option than the mp5. Its lighter and the controls are more user friendly being that they are ambi. It will still never be as cool as an mp5 though

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Piston is going to be cleaner with less gas to the face than straight blowback. The tradeoff is it will be slightly louder.

how can you call yourself a nat socialist and support the state of Zion simultaneously?

Are there meterings with the same can available? decibel levels are graduated logirithmically so if its more than 5db louder/quieter it will actually matter

not to mention the charging handle shooting gas into your eyes

MPX is a super duper nice AR-9 with no buffer tube. If you don't care about the folding brace aspect, get an AR-9.
If you plan on suppressing it, be warned that it will blow tons of shit in your face. The MP5 is most comfortable to shoot suppressed, followed by the CZ Evo 3 (it blows a little), and the MPX (and most AR-9s in general) are the least comfortable. If you don't have a suppressor, you'll be happy with any of them.
If you just want something light and easy to carry as a 'just in case' weapon, get a Kel-Tec sub2000.

wrong there the gas from a scorpion goes forward and out of the ejection port.

What's the down side to the Scorpion? Haven't seen any cons on it yet?

>have Scorpion
>have shot MPX with same can on it
>got SIGNIFICANTLY less gas to face with MPX
Not sure how much suppressor design matters on that though.

Your anecdote is in direct contrast to video testimony of reviewers claiming the opposite.