This fishing guide in Alaska shot and killed a grizzly bear with 6 shots of hard cast 9mm. Assuming you can get good shot placements, wouldn't something smaller like 9mm or .40 be a better idea?
Are big handgun calibers really necessary for protection against wildlife?
Dominic Myers
Jack Phillips
Big iron
BIIIIIG IRON
Parker Stewart
Lincoln White
This honestly triggers me man. There are 8 billion humans. That old cunt and his nigger buddy aren't worth the life of a grizzly. At least kill the thing with a headshot you like.
Dominic Peterson
I shot this decent sized bear with a 30 caliber rifle from over 200 yards. The round went through both lungs (they were almost pulp) as well as the heart and the bear was still able to run 300 yards in the brush before he fell over dead. That guide was pure blind lucky to stop that bear and the only reason it worked out is the first stop happened to sting the bear and cause the bear to stop and start spinning around and around while the guide kept shooting it in the lungs every time ot went around and around. If the bear had kept coming, the guide would have been dead. I've killed over 100 bears in hunting and while working. My go to is a 12 gauge slug if I need to stop a bear in it's tracks. 400 grain 45-70 is my next. Granted here in Canada we cannot carry handguns in the bush without begging out Government and jumping through a shit ton of red tape and hoops.
Michael Ross
> - t. treadwell
Jeremiah Wood
>That old cunt and his nigger buddy aren't worth the life of a grizzly
Kill yourself you self hating faggot.
You are a symptom of the plague that is infesting humanity. You worthless sack of shit
Elijah Garcia
I think a 12 gauge with some sabot slugs would be the best bet, as well. But from doing a lot of binge watching youtube last night, I've seen a number of bears get dropped pretty quickly by a short burst of 9mm or .40 shots. Certainly they're not the best caliber for the job but it seems to be that with the right bullet they're viable.
Austin Cooper
That’s right. When a bear can possibly kill you at any moment, pouncing on you and eating you crotch-first, you don’t have time to go for a “headshot” besides there’s plenty of cases with bullets glancing off bear heads too
Christian Anderson
>kills bear while taking city yuppies fishing for money
>takes picture with bear
>leaves it there to rot
Who's the plague?
Thomas Cruz
A L U M I N U M
Jace Robinson
Read the article. He was attacked and so where his clients. He defended himself and saved their lives. They left notified le came back and skinned it. Which is exactly what you're supposed to do.
Alexander Foster
If you think 9mm is good protection against a Griz, knock your self out. I have been to Alaska, and I'd laugh at any dumb cunt who thinks they could protect themselves from Griz or moose with a puss round.
Parker Harris
Functional =/= ideal. To use a human example--while you COULD potentially incapacitate a 6'2 300 lbs crackhead high on PCP with just a .22 pistol, what would actually be ideal for that scenario would be an AR.
William Foster
A bloo bloo bloo, a poor furry nigger attacked people and got ventilated. Fuck on outta here fag
Easton Cook
>are large caliber handguns needed
No
>ammoland.com
Lucas Allen
She shot it while it was sleeping.
Landon Richardson
>spouting bullshit while not even reading the article.
Fuck off underage retard, it was walking towards her and she decided ot was too close for comfort.
Those .22 longs (less FPS then .22 LR) went right through its skull. Pictures are in the article you didnt read.
Jonathan Jones
So it wasn't charging but standing still?
Jacob Sanders
So even a .22 long, which is weaker that a .22 LR will go through a grizz skull see
But that assuming you can hit a target the size of a soft ball, that is moving in 3 dimensions, while you are experiencing an adrenalin dump, and have a more second or two to take the shot.
If you can hit the center mass of the skull, caliber is irrelevant, BUT if you miss slightly, then you need something can can drive deep and relatively straight to go through all the bone, muscle, hide deep into the chest cavity at that angle.
Xavier Kelly
what? Like OP's post is a verified picture of a guy who used buffalo bore 9mm outdoorsmen and killed a grizzly. Are you saying they lied?
Again no one is saying 9mm is optimal, but if its all you have and your using the right ammo it works.
Anthony Diaz
The fact that a .270 Win. is enough/minimum for killing an animal of this size, I can't figure out how can, what looks like a 9mm(I maybe say bullshit, but you understand what I mean), can kill an animal of this size.
Brandon Peterson
It is a 9mm buffalobore.com
scroll down for the story and pics.
A perfectly placed 22lr can kill a polar bear. All these energy numbers, and maximum ranges, and such are all designed to make up for humans not being perfect shots. If everyone could put a 22LR, into the weak points on a brown bears skull reliably then thats all that would be needed. But we cant, so we carry more powerful firearms to compensate.
Eli Wright
>6’2” 300lb crackhead
On what planet do you live, user?
Thomas Rogers
Shit, that's a lot of bears. Do you use their pelts as your wallpaper? Guy could fetch a pretty penny from that much hide.
Hudson Ortiz
why would you even try to shoot a bear with 9mm. Thats such a stupid fucking idea in the first place. That right there should tell you the type of people that are out their in the world.
Matthew Garcia
yeah after you unload your whole clip into him. You could just usa an ak or 300 meme out. Hell even my trust 45 will do the trick
Cameron Cooper
he shouldnt have been out their with 9mm to start with. Hes an idiot imho
Bentley King
He shot it in the weakest part of the back of its skull
Your brain has been jewed
Jayden Price
>Assuming you can get good shot placements
That's your problem, you can't base your safety on mere assumptions when you're dealing with bears or other dangerous wildlife. If you're shooting you want to make sure each shot is effective even if your aim is shit.
I once killed a wild boar with a .50AE to the head, I should have a pic of it somewhere.
Anyways, this is my go to gun when going innawoods.
Colton Edwards
>Jow Forums filename
>carrying a .50AE
Matthew Lewis
Are you jealous?
Gavin Fisher
>clip
Jesus fucking Christ what happened to this place
Asher Gomez
It's not your gun. You saved some else's picture, faggot
Jeremiah Powell
Or maybe it's actually my gun and you're jealous as fuck because all you can afford is a 1911.
Did I mention I live in Europe?
Andrew Reyes
it's not really about whether or not a larger or smaller round kills it just fine. It's about likelihood of a one-shot stop on a charging animal. It's the reason rich guys on safari back in the day carried a fuck huge caliber single shot rifle with them, so they could reliably and instantly stop a large animal charging at them.
Juan Rivera
Thank you. That's all you needed to post.
Carson Morales
Logan Thomas
Where in Europe?
Can't imagine where you would be allowed to carry a handgun?
Xavier Watson
Hardcast in any caliber will penetrate bone. This is not the same as using fmj or hollow points. Your bullet choice is more important than your gun and caliber. 9mm hardcast will kill anything that moves. So will m855.
Matthew Evans
Romania
It's not licensed as a carry though. It's "only" for shooting at the range, so that means I'm not allowed to own ammo for it. I do smuggle a couple of rounds out of the range every time I go so I can use it innawoods as well.
Dylan Reed
Ah i see, that would be the same laws in Denmark then, cant carry either.
I would be too scared to carry lol, if i got caught, the police confiscate all weapons and i would'nt even be allowed to hunt..
Brayden Taylor
You are on a weapons board.
Angel Ward
>it's a rare thing for someone browsing Jow Forums to own a gun
How far this board has fallen.
James Bailey
This is the real difference between American Chad's and Yuroslurps. If even the law prohibited us from carrying and owning we still fucking would pack heat. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: breaking the law is the true American tradition.
Landon Walker
Well, our government have a registry, so they would easily be able to take the guns... No options for boating accidents. Also prisontime and would get kicked out of the navy as well..
But i really dont see a reason for carrying in Denmark, no dangerous wild animals etc.
Would be awesome if we could, but thats just not the case... And no way the population would rally and secure some kind of 2nd ammendment for us.. Most people dont like guns here..
Robert Sullivan
>European guy with Deagle admits breaking the law by stealing ammo and using it off range
>muh Yuroslups that can't break laws
Henry Lee
>Jesus fucking Christ what happened to this place
he could be using a clip fed gun
idk