Picked up the cheapest gun show souvenir that wasn't a hi point. Are these as crap as their price suggests or are they serviceable? Haven't shot it yet but the barrel is pretty clean.
STAR
Jaxson Hernandez
Julian Bailey
You probably overpaid and the one you bought is probably shit.
I love mine, performs flawlessly. Don’t dryfire it you’ll fuck up the firing pin
Ryder Jackson
It was just over $200. Given FFL fees and shipping, I figured it's about what it would cost from classic firearms. Granted the external condition isn't terrific.
Owen Baker
They’re reasonably good single stack 9mms for the price. They sometimes have reliability issues (typically bad extraction). I wouldn’t rely on one as a defensive piece unless you’ve shot it enough to work out the kinks. May or may not feed JHP reliably.
Samuel Garcia
Heard a mix about from what Ben has sold
Joseph Ward
Jesus, you paid $200 for a gun with pitting and finish wear that bad?
Josiah Campbell
It's an interesting range toy and a soon-to-be C&R piece (these were 70s' era production).
I'd test it extensively with both FMJs and JHPs before I ever consider relying on it for self defense, though. But for $200 it's a great buy.
William Kelly
Remove the magazine safety and the magazines drop free.
They're nice handguns and like most surplus the price is going to double as soon as the supply runs out.
Xavier Sanchez
they are shit make sure you only use ball ammo. I had one it wouldn't feed anything but ball.
Mason Williams
>dryfiring will fuck up the firing pin
Fuck is that why mine pierces primers every round?
William Cook
>pierces primers every round
jesus fuck do you still fire it??
Cameron Williams
>Ben
Sweaty Ben
Noah Barnes
Where do I get extra magazines, bros?
Isaac Butler
Walmart. Next to the easter eggs
Caleb Flores
eBay. Got mine for 35$ a mag.
Easton Reed
I like mine, but it is picky with ammo. I believe this to be a result of a worn recoil and/or extractor spring. I’ll happily pay the $25 for the springs and shipping and such if it solves the problem of FTEs.
>dry firing will fuck up the firing pin
How? The hammer hits the rounded end and pushes the pin forward against the spring pressure. The pin doesn’t hit anything and is made of steel. It isn’t a rimfire
Ian Stewart
Snap cap would solve this if it is really a problem
Luis Taylor
No they are great guns. Very accurate and trigger pull is better than most 1911’s
Austin Howard
I recently bought one to match the Super B I inherited from my father. So far it's worked flawlessly with anything I've fed it, granted I've only used FMJ and newer conical JHP's from hornady.
Hasn't malfunctioned once. For $200 it was a great deal, just hard to find mags for, but you can mod P225 mags I think.
Christian Rodriguez
FWIW mine still has the mag safety and mags drop free. So either I'm lucky or the complete teardown and clean I did fixed it.
Hudson Rodriguez
Make sure you remove the mag disconnect safety
Daniel Robinson
if you dont pay the hand select he tosses it down some concrete stairs and then sweats all over it
Christopher Green
Yes it still works 100% lel it’s only on shit Tula steel case which has hard primers. I think that’s part of the problem
Justin Hernandez
So it’s basically like every other 1911
Grayson Lopez
STARS
William Barnes
I've heard you can mod a p225 mag to work
Ryder Powell
Star BM is a nice gun, but I wouldn't carry one.
Luis Collins
This is true. Promags work with just a slight opening up of the mag catch hole.
Ian Price
Yours looks worse than his and $200 is fine, what are you mad about?
Because it's brittle and old.
Liam Stewart
They're all around $45 to $50 right now.
Maybe I should just buy the $150 star BM on JG right now instead.
Jacob Harris
>picky with ammo
I wonder if that's why my Super B FTEs so regularly. Any recommendations?
Nicholas Jackson
Yeah I'd say thats your best bet. I bought the $190 one on CF and it was pretty fucked. It worked but the bluing was really bad and the pitting was terrible so I stripped and polished.
If I knew it was going to be that fucked I wouldve bought the $150 one and refinished that.
Aaron Russell
Well I already own one, it's got a good amount of holster wear but it's super accurate and never FTEs.
What I'm saying is if I'm gonna pay $50 for a fucking magazine I might as well get a gun for $150 and a magazine with it.
Wyatt Ross
Muh Star
Oliver Reyes
should've gotten a hipoint senpai
Noah Rivera
I find that Remington UMC 115gr FMJ is the most reliable, but I don’t have much experience with steel or aluminum case ammunition.
Josiah Cruz
Not going to lie, this is part of what I like about star BMs.
Evan Wright
Dollar for dollar I’d rather have the STAR
Thomas Hall
>all these 9mm babies
Here’s a real man’s Star
Alexander Ross
I just got one from J&G for $150 and I really like it, even if it's not reliable enough to be more than a range toy.
The slide keeps locking every 2 or 3 rounds and I'll get FTEs every 30 rounds or so. Any ideas what might be causing the slide lock?
Nolan Moore
Try different ammo, mine is picky like that. See . I think it’s due to weak recoil and/or extractor springs.
Jayden Roberts
Star BM $220
Leo Wood
Fucking fantastic firearms for the price. Love mine but read my following replies to some of the other anons for a bit of advice
Please keep in mind that these guns were designed to shoot STEEL CASED AMMO ONLY. They might function with brass cased ammunition but will always function more reliably with steel cased only. Yes they are old guns and yes parts may be worn or broken on them causing feeding or extraction issues but if you are using brass cased ammunition that is more likely the cause of the issues. Only use steel cased ammunition for these guns.
Connor Ward
wew lad, my lucky day. I just bought 1000 Wolf Steel cased 9mm for this bad boy. Can't wait to see how it performs
Ayden Walker
Best of luck user
Anthony Evans
>designed to shoot STEEL CASED AMMO ONLY
When they were designed steel case ammo was not common at all, it wasn't in real production until WW2.
Bentley Howard
Oh your the user with the super B huh. Yeah sorry about that one. You might actually have a worn extractor or something. Star BMs were designed to fire steel cased but the super A and super B i have no idea.
Connor Flores
Even the BM is not designed specifically for steel case. Except for a few pistols with fluted chamber delayed blowback there is no functional difference between brass or steel case.
Springs and other components wear and need to be replaced. This is simply normal maintenance that fixes 90% of problems and should be done for every surplus pistol.
David Smith
Yes, they were designed for steel cased ammo. forums.gunboards.com
>there is no functional difference between brass or steel case
So thats why theres so much brass cased 5.45 on the market, right? Oh yeah the ak74 wont feed brass cased 5.45. Because steel and brass expand differently.
Cooper Kelly
Forgot pic
Gavin Barnes
So your source is forums posts? Sounds legit.
No brass 5.45 would be down to market forces, not engineering. Why buy the more expensive brass when cheap steel is shit out by Russian arsenals. Brass was simply too expensive in comparison so was dropped by the companies making it.
Easton Barnes
Dude holy fuck. If you want to be retard be my fucking guest. The star BM was designed to shoot steel cased. One of the simplest debugging methods is to switch from brass cased to steel cased for the gun.
Adam Flores
Also, since you are too fucking braindead to actually read the forum post, he provides sources and is dedicated to the research of these firearms, unlike some random retard on Jow Forums.
Anthony Ward
>phoneposting tripfag cites one basement ridden boomer's post on an obscure forum so it must be fact
Holy. Fuck. This is like the white whale of worthless nothingburger shitposts.
Joseph Russell
Like i said if you want to be a fucking retard with a nonfunctioning gun, be my guest.
Oliver Gutierrez
He actually is talking about the B model there if you read it. His supporting info is also wrong.
Please point out in the manual or any other MANUFACTURER's document where it specifies steel case. Since the Spanish Civil Guard use brass cased ammo it seems pretty fucking unlikely their service pistol would be designed to use a different ammo than what is supplied.
Leo Allen
Says right there the same thing applies to both the B and BM. Good fucking luck finding manufacturers documents about the BM considering star has been out of business for a while. Proof the spanish civil guard uses brass cased and used brass cased ammo in the 70’s? Or are your claims unvalidated
Jordan Murphy
Also unless you speak spanish you wont understand it
Gavin Johnson
Interesting, I have noticed that it runs better with steel case.
I’m the user who posted
I took it out today and I found out that the slide lock only happens during rapid fire. It functions fine with slow fire...so does that mean it’s a recoil spring issue?
Adam Roberts
The fact the Spanish weren't known to have made or issued steel case 9mm? The Francoist gov. was also not likely to buy ammunition from a foreign country like France.
Rather than believing fuddlore you should sit down and do some real research.
Samuel Clark
Rather then believing a random 4channer i would ask that you post some actual resources. How do you know the spanish never made steel cased 9mm?
Elijah Gonzalez
Some people have luck with the brass cased ammo, a lot do not have luck with it. As for the slide locking back, i have no idea about that. Maybe try a different mag?
Nathan Wilson
If they did it sure didn't find it's way into the wild and onto the collector's market. Even the experimental German rounds from 1917 can be found for sale.
Lewis Curtis in the IAA did a writeup and lists the known producers of steel case 9mm. Spain is not in the list.
Evan Reed
Well, they COULD have bought from another country. Which would explain both why they are not a known producer and why none has ever entered the surplus market. Rather, the spanish civil guard COULD have used brass cased ammunition in the Star BMs. Its not like a major armed force has never used the wrong ammunition for their firearms before.
Joseph Howard
A fascist government with domestic arms production buying either old surplus from an enemy or new production from communists. Then re-designing their service pistol to use that ammo?
I think you're grasping at straws here.
Even the Germans in WW2 did not redesign guns to work with steel case, they specified the steel case had to work in guns. (For the most part. Lugers needed a new chamber design but they were using a non standard chamber to start.)
Joseph Watson
The Civil guard and the Spanish army shares the same ammo in 1970, in fact they do nowadays cause the Civil guard is in theory part of the army The national factory of Santa Barbara made the ammo and all the 9mm made at that time was brass
Wyatt Rivera
I only got the one mag, tripfag
Justin Gonzalez
thats a namefag
Juan Johnson
I've got a Star BM. Mine is from 1976. Pretty good pistol for what it is. Mine has a few issues with the magazine (it only shipped with one) but they aren't that huge of a deal. I also removed the magazine safety but mine still refuses to drop free. Waiting to test it with another magazine. It's been 100% reliable for me though.
Andrew Taylor
youtube.com
Carter Hernandez
This one is mine very fun to shoot.
Matthew Allen
I want a B (or P), but all I ever see online are BMs.
Jose Carter
Star firestar. 9mm
Also anons, where can I get mags for a firestar?
Nolan Baker
Where is everyone getting these wood grips for their BMs?
Adam Taylor
thats a firestar plus nigga, pretty sick.
Hunter Howard
google it nigger
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Liam Campbell
J&G
Ryder Davis
Mine feeds HST just fine
mine just has finger prints on it from handling
Angel Miller
Is "Spanish steel" still a meme?
Isaac Bennett
Jesus are you all retards? When these first got popular again they were $20-25 a mag. That wasn't even six months ago.