Why Russian army keeps upgrading and keeping IN service the T-72 and T-80 and not just focusing in T-90 and t-14 solely...

Holy shit, why is it so big?

I recommend You to familiarize with "why the three tanks" by J. "Cookie" Sewell.
Basically rußian military procurement is constant backstabbing and factions struggle, much more brutal than Western. That's how piece of shit Pantsir has been pressed into service

Thats why I'm asking. The T-14 is such a radical departure size wise. Just think logistical what thats means.How can you even transport that when your current transport methods rely in 60 years fixed size tanks.

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Thanks for saving me from watching 1+hour stupid clowns then.

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T90 is a joke just like the PAK-FA and they've realized this.

>T-72
Ridiculously cheap upgrade to fill out numbers. Bullies anything that is not an upgraded Leo 2 or Abrams
>T-80
Some vatnik stumbled upon a massive warehouse with hundreds of pristine GTD engines, and itd be a waste not to use them. Very good for colder climes.

Slavs rely heavily on rail transport for their armor, they have an extensive rail system all across their nation, especially in the east. Which is where the majority of their tanks are stored. The Armata is easily rail transported. Their trucks do transport their lighter tanks but most of the time they drive them. Which is why they have a lot of recovery vehicles and their tanks carry logs for getting stuck in mud.

Do you mean T-14 ? Cause T-90 rocks your world Abdull.

>Ridiculously cheap upgrade to fill out numbers. Bullies anything that is not an upgraded Leo 2 or Abrams
Why not go full t-90 ?

A T-90 costs at least thrice as much while not providing enough advantages to make it worthwhile. I should also mention that the T-72B3 and T-80BVM upgrade programs are part of the national mobilization effort. Something like couple hundreds of tanks can be reactivated and upgraded per month instead of a couple dozen for new builds. I dont think anyone but the US has anything similar.

The Russians are rewriting military transportation standards while they are in the middle of an infrastructue revamp. For military railways they orderes around 30k railcars meant for much larger vehicles.

Because Russian doctrine relies heavily on the tank charge and numbers is important for that. They already have thousands of those older tanks built and ready to go with logistics and repairs prepared. Why retire it? The gun still works and if the enemy hits a T-80, that's just one less T-90 that got hit.

Trips

>Some vatnik stumbled upon a massive warehouse with hundreds of pristine GTD engines, and itd be a waste not to use them.
You really dont have a clue are nt you ?

Because the Russian mic is so corrupt that nothing has or ever will surpass it

great piece thanks

>vatniks claim Russia never invaded Ukraine
>also claim that Russia moved in and did everything

The sheer cognitive dissonance

>T-90s isnt significantly better then late model uppgraded T-72s
T-90 IS a T-72.
The first T-90 version (without the T-90A's welded turret) was originally called T-72BU, but they decided to rename it to increase its appeal to customers making it seem like a newer tank.
>tfw T-90A could have been T-72BUM

But he's wrong.

Only Russian GRU Spetsnaz forward observers were dispatched.

You clueless morons don't seem to remember that the DNR and LNR were formidable field armies in the late phase of the conflict, capable of deploying and maneuvering tank and mechanized regiments which rivaled Ukraine's forces in capabilities and quality.

The militia men with SKS and JS-3s were images from the very early phases of the insurrection.

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Russian armor is 2 maybe 3 cbu from not existing at any time.
Depends on if they used the tank to steal more krokodil or got drunk buttoned up.
So they make flashy tanks to appeal to idiots like Apple.
Thats why they're called I-vans.

Maybe the giant armored capsule for 3 crewmen in the hull might have something to do with that.
Also, the T-72 series isn't very big to begin with.

That's what she said!

The T-90 is a newly built T-72 hull with a completely new turret, ergo it still retains all the flaws the T-72 hull has.
T-72B3 is very close in terms of performance, yet because you reuse scrap tanks instead of building everything new, it's a lot cheaper, so it makes a lot of sense for the Ruskies to upgrade the 72s they can and canibalize for parts those that they can't upgrade. A win-win if you're short on Rubles and need to retain a large tank force.

No, the T-90 was named T-88 before received the T-90 name.

T-90 was name for the Object 187.

The T-90 we know today is Object 188.

poverty. economy is brazil or Italy size, wages are terrible as is infrastructure as money gets sucked up by corruption an pointless government spends to shovel it to corrupt oligarchs thus all of the below, in reality Russian land forces are a pointless useless money hole that are a massive and pointless drain. But vatniks want to keep larping that they matter this useless obsolete armour and flawed vaporware
>Why Russian army keeps upgrading and keeping IN service the T-72 and T-80 and not just focusing in T-90 and t-14 sole

the actual russian military never got involved up untill those few weeks in 2015 moron
at least when you try to shitpost do it right

They have a lot of them and they don't have the money to buy enough Armatas.
Upgraded T-72 is just okay.
>wages are terrible
That actually drives the R&D and procurement cost down buddy.
Also, their arms industry is state owned.
That's how they can have so much shit with such a budget. Russian military is simply cheaper.