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Leo White
Asher Wright
New CCW owner here. Do I get the PPQ M2 or the Smith and Wesson MP9 2.0?
answer me fools, I like both, but which is the better gun?
Asher Martinez
Why is 1983 a good year?
Nathan Fisher
You go your ass to the gun store and you handle both and then you 360 moonwalk out the door and buy the one you like best online because they are both super rad guns but I prefer the M&P M2.0 for a number of reasons despite being a dick sucking Waltherfag.
It isn't, no reason, don't read into it.
Charles Murphy
Picked this up today. Can't wait to shoot it later this week.
Charles Roberts
Thinking of a Ruger SP101 in .357 with a 3in barrel for my first revolver. Thoughts?
David Barnes
So I'm looking for something in 32 acp that wont break the bank to satisfy my growing mousegun/SNS fetish. Preferably something older that wont explode or malfunction literally every trigger pull. Any suggestions?
Xavier Gray
Joshua Lopez
They’re great guns but the triggers will never be good as a GP 100 for some reason, my buddy has the Match Champion SP101 and loves it but even after a few thousand rounds the trigger still feels a little gritty
Ian King
I considered a GP 100 but I have CC in mind and the SP101 is big enough as it is. If I can get a good deal on a used one I might get one anyways though.
Jonathan Wright
Turner Diaries
Audio Book
The Turner Diaries Andrew MacDonald Audiobook
Brandon Rogers
ok mcveigh
Jacob Brooks
im ready for summer again...
Joshua Thomas
Yeah like you said, the SP is big enough as is, my buddy that owns one resorted to bolting a safe in his trunk so he could retrieve as needed and store as needed, with a much smaller carry option as his EDC. He couldn’t deal with the cylinder digging in his side, and he’s pretty skinny mode.
Alexander Johnson
haha Jericho and potato camera time
Jonathan White
Uh, are CZ75's still being sold?
i'm having a hard time finding a subcompact one in stock anywhere
Josiah Perry
its just a book nigger
this is a book thread
Gavin Morgan
They’re all over the place here in California from full size to compact to subcompact to RAMI, at nearly every gun store I’ve been to.
Just move here bro
Joseph Walker
Opinions on the M&P 9C? I'm a poorfag and I like my Shield, but I want something with a bit more capacity for CC and I also want a thumb safety.
Ian Stewart
Nothing wrong with an m&p. When it comes to polymer 9mm handguns user preference is all that really matters.
Levi Davis
If you like spoops, easily consumed fiction, and guns, then give monster hunter international a try.
2.0 compact. M&P9 is a fullsize, PPQ is a low capacity hair-smaller-than fullsize at 5.3" tall. FWIW a lot of people work their way up to CCWing a compact everyday, without proper gear and technique they can print pretty bad in lighter clothing depending on your wardrobe/body type. Definitely took me a little while before i was comfortable with it in summer cloths, but ymmv.
FOr less common versions like the RAMIs and P01s they tend to come in shipments with lulls of availability in between. Try asking around if anybody is expecting some soon.
Shitty trigger and the safety on them is supposed to be mushy/loose enough that it can accidentally be moved from one position to the next. Personally I'd go with the 2.0 which fixes both of those problems but is G19 sized, or some other SC with a thumb safety like the P30SK or P2000SK
Adam Williams
Check out the sig p365 you won't be disappointed.
Kevin Hernandez
How small does it needs to be? Does it need to be old? Cause right away I'm thinking of $400 Walther PPs which aren't that small and $400 Beretta Tomcats which aren't that old.
Of course, but the RAMI has always been super low volume, they don't make many and they don't sell many.
Like here
gun.deals
Nice. Are you going to go full weeb and put airsoft Spike grips on it, or buy those new Spike grips from Lok?
The old one? They're good guns for sure but what I never liked was the slippery grip texture which gets really bad when wet, and the sloppy trigger. Both issues were fixed in spades with the M2.0 but of course they dropped the "compact" size from the lineup.
You can improve the old M&P 9C with a $40 Apex plastic trigger (which gets rid of the slop and some of the takeup and overtravel, just the trigger not the whole DCAE kit btw) and a $12 Talon grip but that's money I'm sure you don't want to spend.
If you want a little gun to carry without spending a lot, check out the Taurus G2C!
Brody Martin
Is 22LR enough for self defense? I was thinking of getting a wee mouse gun as a CCW.
Jayden Bailey
If you can get it to go off, it's as or more effective than .25acp (no that that's saying much). The biggest downsides to .22lr are
>rimfire
and
>rimmed round
I'd carry one if I had no other caliber choice, it's still a fucking gun, but I'd want a centerfire.
William Brown
I didn't even know about those Lok grips. Those are cool as fuck. Might have to pick those up.
There was an user on Jow Forums who was trying to make something close to the airsoft grips, but were made like a Hogue monogrip. If that crazy bastard actually follows through and they aren't too expensive, I'll buy his grips. Would love to mount a laser in them, but maybe that's a later project. We'll see if anything actually comes of it.
Grayson Hall
It's certainly better than nothing, and it'll probably make somebody not on drugs stop doing what they're doing before you run out of ammo or it jams, but it would be irresponsible for anyone to say .22LR is "enough."
There are so many pleasant shooting tiny .380s that I can't see why you'd go and seek a tiny .22 for defense.
Samuel Smith
Depends on what you mean by "enough". Will it poke holes in somebody? Yes. Is it better than a pointy stick? Yes. Is it also significant and demonstrable downgrade from anything .380 and up? Double yes. If you're ok with a gun/caliber combination that'll likely fail to ""stop"" an attacker 40% of the time then that means it's adequate for you. Personally if im in fear for my life i'd prefer odds better than a slightly weighted coin flip.
Brandon Jones
what is the bottom right one?
Julian Lopez
>Go to ammo store
>Sold out of 45 super
>Have to settle for 45acp +p
>185@1200
>Jesus fucking christ I might as well carry 9mm
MHI is fun
Luke Nguyen
Looks like another Beretta Bobcat.
Alexander Baker
I own pic related, thing about it is that its pretty fucking accurate given the mosquito dick sights. The other thing is since there is no recoil you can have it trained on target and rapid fire very quickly and very accurately. Also very comfy to shoot for a gun of its size. Over all, after having shot it a bit I have a great deal more faith that it would help in self defense. That being said, it is still a .22 which is not only tiny but a rim fire. If you are going to carry it for when you are in a situation where you would otherwise have no gun at all due to your other gun being to big to carry comfortably, conceal, or you are in a low risk situation.
Parker Kelly
Yeha look like it I wonder which caliber though.
Charles Jones
as a backup to a real gun, sure.
David Lopez
And I forgot picture
Jayden Johnson
Do you ever shoot that thing with a can? Must be fucking heavy.
Kayden Myers
the grip safety on is easily high enough that if you can wrap your hand around the gun to pull the trigger, then you have actuated the safety.
it's not a heavy lever, either. The idea that you would be able to hold the gun below the safety and still aim and pull the trigger sounds asinine, no offense.
kids will figure out how to use a grip safety real quick. If you are concerned about your kids ND'ing into the roof or someone else, you have to be proactive and teach them that guns are not toys, that guns are boring tools, and what the purpose of a gun really is.
helicopter parenting won't work; at some point you'll have to trust they won't do something stupid and outline a path to that trust.
Jack Nicholson/10
>some men just want to watch the world burn
are you traveling north of the mall?
lots of nice family farms out that way. Fantastic produce year round.
you do dress a bit like batman at the range, huh?
missing the 7.65x25 and 5.7x28 my friend
depends on your budget. you'll have to see if you can try both and decide if the PPQ upgrades to the trigger and ergonomics are enough to justify the price.
M&P2.0 is a good value, no denying that.
grip looks like it's made out of butterscotch...
nobody ever gets the OD green :(
respec your elders, son.
Carter Morris
I mean
people shoot desert eagles, and they weigh 4 fucking pounds
Christian Adams
Don't really want to deal with the paperwork. It's 3lbs 5oz eith a full mag of 230gr
>The idea that you would be able to hold the gun below the safety and still aim and pull the trigger sounds asinine, no offense.
You don't know what you're fucking talking about, no offense. Go do some drills, a low grip is the most common bad grip out of the holster, and the XD grip safety is WAY too small and high
Jose Stewart
>what the quints
this ain't pol, yo
post handguns
Christopher Wright
>That book
>Not a 1911 with a .22 conversion kit, a brass catcher and a suppressor
Christopher Hernandez
>buys a meme gun designed to be suppressed
>doesn't suppress it
it's like buying a camaro and driving it through school zones only
Ryan Phillips
>this
Should have just gotten a USP45, extra weight and bulk in exchange for memes
Landon Hernandez
>he thinks his opinion matters
>he thinks he’s being helpful
POST
GUNS
FAGGOT
Evan Brown
>havent been shooting in months
i feel like im letting you guys down
Jace Cruz
>Should just get a USP45
Uh.....
It's my CCW, why would I suppress my carry gun?
Logan Reed
Thoughts on the 92 compact as an appendix carry gun? Same size as a G19 though with extra weight and slightly longer slide.
James Young
Why not ccw the objectively better gun for carry? Also RMRs for carry handguns is a stupid fucking meme
Joseph Gomez
how would he beg for attention with a regular carry gun?
Jose King
You appear to be retarded, are you allowed to have internet outside your PCAs supervision?
Daniel Harris
I finger fucked a 92f compact equinox today. my friend is selling it for $550 and I'm trying to decide if I want it. Very comfortable in the hand but I can't see a reason besides fun for it to replace my g19 for carry.
Hudson Carter
Tyler Green
Yeah I just prefer DA first shot when pointed at my penor. Good to hear
Ryder Butler
>CCing a Mark 23, the XBOX HEUG of handguns
Xavier Price
Kek
Not an argument, druggie
Brody Miller
attention whoring, like a teen girl
Mason Lee
>being on HK's dick this much
Thomas Lopez
It’s so he can look special in front of his Jow Forums friends :^)
Dylan Lee
for most people it's just a phase, you buy one or two and realize they're mediocre as fuck. always a shit ton of used hks at the bigger shops
Michael Morales
>paying $750 for a gun with a plastic trigger
USP fags are lolcows
Nathan Young
Isaiah Perry
>Taurus
Yikes
Ian Miller
Translation
>I've never owned a Taurus revolver
They're solid and I got an 8 shot .357 for $350
Justin Wilson
Liam Williams
I had a rossi, aka taurus revolver. piece of shit. got it from a pawn shop 7 years ago for 175$ traded it for a glock and they gave me 175$. I love that pawn shop.
Chase Hall
>calls a gun a piece of shit
>gets a Glock
Adrian Sullivan
Has anyone in here had experience with a ruger lc9s? Im interested in getting on as i just really want a nice sub compact 9mm.
Also, my current hamdgun collection. Just started last year, want to add a sub compact to my collection. Any recommendations?
Asher Morales
Eli Butler
Quints of esoteric white power
Tyler Powell
Glocks aren't bad. The fanbase is.
Jason James
How comfy is it to shoot (preferable compared to regular 92)?
How comfy to carry?
>thanks fren
Tyler Martinez
>Reading is gundamental edition
word homie
Ryder Ortiz
Bears, and 16 rounds of 255gr flying at 1130fps.
I'd tell you off, but beating up retards is a hate crime.
In the meantime let's talk about the RMR, do this with irons, I'll wait.
I own multiple guns from multiple companies, you should try it some time.
Jacob Hall
I don't like it. I am going to trade it for a VP9. I have never liked glocks, but I shot my brothers and enjoyed it. As soon as I can justify the 2-300$ to make the trade up i am going to get the VP9.
Colton Barnes
Hudson Anderson
How much holdover at 100 yds?
Ayden Lee
That sounds like a boring ass book, mi amigo.
Wyatt Allen
>.45 apc vs bears
I would not trust this
Jordan Hughes
>100 yards
Aha
Hahahah
Wew lad - probably more like 100 feet
>also implying “100 yard” accuracy is relevant for a carry gun
Ryan Young
>Glocks aren't bad
Jonathan Torres
.22LR
Closest I had
Ian Edwards
Get a 44 if you actually plan to survive a brown bear attack
Colton Jackson
About 8" with my 200gr handloads
I carry hardcast 45 super, it out performs 10mm
Camden Powell
Aiden Long
how many of these were user error though?
Henry Diaz
he routinely lies about targets according to some discord fags
Levi Davis
T.Fudd
Bentley Morales
Easton King
Realistically, how would 9mm fare against a cougar? After ol' boy jogger choked out a mountain lion, it made me more aware of the fact that I should be carrying while on a run.
Carter Evans
>Closest I had
Fair call
Jordan Green
An LC9S Pro is my daily carry. I love it.
>good trigger
>good sights, GREAT sights compared to other guns in its size bracket
>has never had a single malfunction in ~1700 rounds
>good capacity for its size (7+1 flush)
>spare mags aren't too terribly expensive $36 for a 2-pack on gunmagwarehouse)
Only downside I can really think of is situational--It's a pinky-dangler even with the factory extension.
Do get the Pro though, the regular LC9S has a manual safety that's small and in the way.
David Wilson
All the cougars I've encountered seem to like my 9
Christian Phillips
Nobody in the duscord shoots or owns guns, it's just Burt and Huitekniggut sharing anime
I'll take 16 rounds of 45 super over 6 rounds of 44, thanks.
It would do fine
Ethan Jones
an attention whore does shit to get attention? nooooo
Owen Edwards
Please respond
Matthew Gutierrez
>he’s gonna get anywhere close to 16 shots off
Big doubt
>burt and hwhite in the discord
Don’t think so nigger
Levi Evans
it's a shit gun to carry, fuckhuge for its capacity
Zachary Myers
Well, a big cougar is 120lbs, most are sub-100. They're also thin skinned and small-boned. Should do fine.
Blake Watson
>I'll take 16 rounds of 45 super over 6 rounds of 44
Why compromise?
Jordan Roberts
?
I’ve seen comparisons with Glock 19s and it looks pretty friggin similar. I’m fine with the loss of two rounds desu