If your handgun doesn't have a light mount, what is the best way to hold it with a light?

If your handgun doesn't have a light mount, what is the best way to hold it with a light?

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There are several ways
It all depends on your situation
There is no single way or tactic you should use every time.
Think A way. Not The way.

Please share some situational examples then

Zip tie a maglite to the slide.

First what kind of switch does your flashlight have?
A switch on the side or on the rear? Will depend on how you hold the light and which techniques you can use.
Do you have night sights?
Or will you need the light from your flashlight to illuminate your sights.
Is someone already shooting at you and you want to return fire?
Light draws fire. Maybe don’t use a technique where you hold the light infront of your body.

A way, not THE way.

Vietnam Green Beret and Police officer of 30 years taught me you shouldnt do that gay shit like in the picture but instead hold the light far out to the side. Bad guys are going to shoot at the light.

have hand holding flashlight fully extended. that way if they decide to spray the light you dont get shot.
not saying thats the best way but its another method

So your pic shows the Harries technique which an okay default method. The key to that is not so much resting your weapon hand on the light hand, but rather pointing your light hand elbow towards the ground and marrying the backs of your hands together, which locks your hands together to try to give yourself as stable a platform as possible.

Other methods are the neck/temple index where you simply anchor the light to your neck or temple and shoot one-handed. Make sure to cant the weapon a few degrees inboard to mitigate one-handed recoil.

One other technique (see pic related) that involves a simple piece of gear is the Thyrm Switchback or other flashlight combat rings, which allow you to mostly get a two handed grip while shooting. You activate the light with your support hand thumb pressure. Takes some practice and it requires some specific lights, but it is a decent compromise that gives you one more option of manipulation.

And as said, there is no one specific way that works for all situations. For example, working around cover: you could use Harries on a right side exposure (if right handed) and a neck index on a left side exposure. That way, your light is being pushed out past the cover and not being blocked by it or splashing back on yourself.

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1.) Strip naked
2.) Imbibe minimum of 4 Viagras
3.) Strap flashlight onto pee-pee
4.) Go into battle naked
5.) ???
6.) SUPLEME VICTOLY

Acquire night vision eyeballs. Replace light with knife. Engage in CQC.

Deepthroat the light, that way it'll always be pointed in the direction you're looking and you'll have both hands free.

You'll have to overcome your tremendous urge to swallow, though.

Do you remember the basics of CQC?

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>simply anchor the light to your neck or temple
wat

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Up ur ass homie duah
For real do people do this
I just shoot holes in the wall when I hear noises

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>G19 glock with rail
>Not having a TLR1 on it and a seperate flashlight for general use.

Only time you shouldn't have a light on your pistol is if you CC, as pulling your gun to identify a potential threat is illegal if it turns out not to be so.

Inside the house there is a different story and if you are carrying OWB on a duty belt or such, then you don't need to worry about size constraints like a CCW.

I carry a G19 with X300U and a handheld 6PX so I'm covered both ways. I just addressed OP's topic which was for handguns without the option to mount a weaponlight.

That ring looks kinda goofy and impractical but thanks

>Or will you need the light from your flashlight to illuminate your sights.
Quick question, so please enlighten me here. Unless the intruder and your walls are covered in Vantablack, won't the sight's dark silhouette on a lit-up target be enough here?

I've tried a few different ways. The one I like most is simply holding your firearm in your dominant hand and your flashlight in your off hand and pushing your offhand with the light in it against the frame of the pistol. So G=gunhand (right hand for me and in this demonstration) and L=flashlight in off hand (left for demo)

LG

And just press your left hand against the frame. I don't think it has a specific name but if it does someone please tell me.

The Harries is awkward and puts strain in weird places in my opinion.

But this is one of the most subjective topics in handgun shooting. It really comes down to how you shoot best with a light in your hand while still being able to hold said light effectively.

If you're a good unsupported shooter, flashlight in fist held against the jaw. Turns with your head, lights up your sights.

If you do better with support (though it's awkward support imo) OP pic method.

There's also holding it wedged in between the fingers of your support hand. Never liked that one, feels like recoil is gonna make me drop it.

You should just get a gun light.

...so only momentary the light in order to identify what you're about to shoot?

I have this in my nightstand. Why would you use handheld flashlights in the 21th century?

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Brother, you don't even need the gun. You come out wearing that on your head in your tighty-whities and I'll already be dead from laughing.

How do you turn it on and off? You really don't want it on the whole time.

I had a cop do that one at me once
>be inna highschool like 12 years ago
>working at the DQ
>stormy night
>after closing, shutting the place down
>tornado sirens start blaring
>check radar, not looking good
>storms getting hektik, start seeing transformers blowing some distance from our building
>go hide in the freezer for a bit
>come out and check the news
>F3 tornado passed 1/4 mile to the south of us
>manager is freaking out
>'i have a storage unit right where it went through with my drum set and a bunch of stuff, fuck!'
>say we should all go check it out
>cops have road blocked by this point
>decide to walk along a jogging trail that goes under the roads into the area
>walking along, tons of debris
>hardware store is completely leveled, stuff everywhere
>cop see us from the road
>runs down behind us and starts yelling
>turn around
>has his gun and light pointed at us like in OP's pic
>thinks we're looting
>'GO BACK THE WAY YOU CAME!'
>okay dude geez
>start walking back
>'I SAID GO BACK THE WAY YOU CAME'
>uuh we came from that way, you watched us?
>'GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM!'
>continue going where we were going in the first place and this satisfies him
>having to watch for downed power lines and shit
>get to the storage units, they're pretty much leveled
>help pick up pieces of his drum set and what we could find
>keep hearing buzzing sound
>afraid we're going to get shocked
>someone else with a flashlight says 'No way dude, check this out'
>shines light on a puddle
>there's a purple dildo/vibrator laying in the puddle buzzing away
>fucking hysterical, wonder if it was in-use when the tornado hit
>get yelled at by more cops and finally leave

The pusher over the light is the on-off, the lever over the batteries is the intensity regulator, the ring arounf the light changes focus/beam width.

I bought it for outdoors stuff, light trail running by night. It is an staple among ultratrail runners. Anyway, i dont care about looking cool when im checking my home by night due to an emergency; i prefer to have quality light and free hands to work on fixing whatever, first aid, shooting...

Duct tape, or just get one of those older flashlights that you can place in your front shirt pocket.

simple, anything else in this thread is retarded

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Lets go full tactitard...

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That's even cooler than my calculator watch

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I actually know the guy who designed the Switchback, kinda funny to see someone talking about it on Jow Forums

If I recall, the FBI is trained to hold their flashlights with their arm extended way the fuck above their head and to one side or the other to draw fire away from their body, because people will tend to see and shoot the light and therefore not their body that way.

It's not a terrible idea, if you're being blinded by a flashlight in a dark area, you can't see anything except for the flashlight. Putting the one thing that can be targeted as far away from your body as you can is a good idea.

They would be. OP is just talking out of his ass.

learn to shoot with one hand as handgun designer intended

why the handgun and flashlight look so huge on his hands?

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How effective is cqc?

>manlets

Well when you need it it’s literally the only option besides just dying.

Except when people flinch they tend to shoot low left which puts rounds into your head

Allow me to clarify, cqc as described and shown in the metal gear series

>tacticool light stance
this is some gay shit
nice way to get your arms all crossed as well as to prevent you from being able to reposition your light

you hold your flashlight in your other hand normal so your can easily redirect your light any direction and be able to fend off peripheral threats,

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No, seeing as how ducking goofy it is to crawl up to a guy and choke him out or beat him unconscious when you can just shoot him while in a bush. Unfortunately the aiming in MGS is trash so you have to use CQC to actually beat the game

Thought so, wonder if it would be practical for extreme close range self defense

Of you got that close then you fucked up hard.

do it the stalker way

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Your adversary will likely shoot at the light (your head)

Pretty similar to when he shoots at your gun light, and everybody seems to be fine with that.

Also the headlight has several bonuses: two hands free for work (most home emergencies wont be gun-related) and you can illuminate something without pointing a gun to it, the strap allows you to fix the light to many things if needed...

JB weld a maglight to the bottom of all your magazines. They're made for that, hence the name Maglight.

The latest trainers are pushing for the FBI teeth technique. It's pretty clever actually. The newest lights have super sensitive switches so you can activate them with your tongue.

i like those surefire intellibeams but they discontinued the flashlight models

obrez not need light.

>If your handgun doesn't have a light mount
Buy a modern handgun, faggot

no

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This.
>hands free
>lights up wherever you look
>don't look like a tryhard.

but

>look like a fucking retard.

The main problem with headlamps is that you can't turn them off and back on again quickly and easily without moving your hand up to your head. At that point, you might as well use the head index since you'll be able to switch indexes that way.

>there's a purple dildo/vibrator laying in the puddle buzzing away
Kek, shitting your pants to your worst case imagination just to find out youfucked yourself over is one of the most awkward fellings out there

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Suppressor and night vision.

Get a fucking headlamp

This. A guy I knew in hs had his parents house broken into, he went downstairs with his glock and flashlight. Thief hid by the bottom of the stairs. Knocked his ass out.

One less glock

Harries index is one of the main flashlight + pistol indexes along with the head index and FBI index.

You're an idiot if you use a flashlight in your own home when your eyes are already adapted to the dark.