How well do people who are good at IPSC do when targets can shoot back? e.g Paintball or milsim. I think there should be a practical shooting setup where the targets are always random and you need to hit them within 1 or 2 seconds or else they pelt you with a paintball.
Yeah you might be pretty good at shredding paper targets, but how about when you're getting shot at your legs, knees, at the back of your head because you're not 100% aware of your surroundings?
For quite some time I've been interested in developing a Taser Tag system, where you use guns with pulsed laser modules and a detector vest. If your vest detects a hit, it discharges a flash capacitor into your body, which would be much more painful than a paintball, cleaner, and it would work at real life gunfight ranges. The goal would be to simulate being hit with a .357 or 7.62 with an electric shock.
>shooting a wax bullet at someone wearing a vest Not very realistic
David Reed
Literally no one wants that, and laser tag would be way less fun anyway since youre not actually shooting anything. Electric shock can do permanent damage btw.
Dylan Adams
God I hope they reintroduce dueling in the Olympics
In principle it's similar to MILES, but MILES doesn't knock you out with an electric shock. MILES just beeps.
Benjamin Powell
>Electric shock can do permanent damage btw. So can paintballs.
Easton Nelson
It's also an incentive to not get hit
Ryan Garcia
My system would just cause unbearable pain, but if someone wants to make it even more reallistic, a sinewave generated with a full h-bridge circuit could be applied across the temples, causing instant loss of consciousness. You wouldn't play doing stupid shit like in IPSC. You'd be allowed to use a mirror to peek around corners and you wouldn't be allowed to cheat using stuff like pizza boxes to cover your sensors.
The only real test is live fire. Not until you are looking at real potential death will you know how you will handle it. But nearly any training will beat the untrained. Most criminals don't really practice using their weapons.
Benjamin Lee
Have fun with your 12 customers who enjoy the pain, 6 who are seriously injuring themselves so they can sue, and 3 who went to the wrong laserquest for that kids birthday party. Or you can do some actual market, biological, and legal research and prove me wrong.
William Williams
I shot USPSA for years, and got to A-class. I also played paintball since 1985, and they're both hard to do well.
In USPSA, any slight drop in focus, and you go from 1st, 2nd or 3rd place to 10th, etc. A perfect run is something that rarely happens, but when it does it's an amazing thing. I've won lots of matches just by not making the same screw-up everyone else was making.
Paintball is way more random. A guy you overlook can back-shoot you. I find my back-ground in USPSA means while I often can make a snap shot as close range where things are happening so fast the whole event is over before you register it- almost like it posts in your memory backwards- I remember shooting, then I remember seeing the guys mask in the brush. The years of practice in USPSA helped there. The other guy might be a 14 year old kid on his first day, or he might be a pro player. The variables in paintball are just huge. That's not to say you can't be methodical, but for your scenario to be valid this would have to be a field you've never played before, right? because I pretty quickly know which piece of cover works, and how long it takes to scurry from that pile of pallets to that pile of pallets.
If you think USPSA is easy, hey, show up at you local match and show us all how it's done. I'll say this- 95% of the guys who show up for their first match can't handle the pressure and humiliation from how badly they perform, and never return. You'll be performing in front of 35 guys who are smiling and thinking "Eh- he's fucked" the instant you make a mental error. Your ego has to be pretty secure in the knowledge that you'll improve. You might think you can shoot, but the square range is one thing and a stage is another. Try shooting man-on-man on a dueling tree sometime- just the sound of the other guys gun is a huge distraction. Front sight focus is something that took me months to develop.
Sebastian Walker
And beeps, and beeps, and beeps. Our kits malfunctioned more than they functioned.
That shit is useless, a lot guys avoid the headache by removing the batteries.
I'd honestly take a shock, rather than simulated tinnitus for potentially hours at a time. Simunitions can hurt and our expensive, but it is really the best we have now AFAIK.
I won my first compition against fuds. I wasn’t as nervous as I thought I would be. Did you play sports in hs/college?
Julian James
There should be a /kvip/ board where you have to confirm you're a gun owner to post on
Josiah Williams
I'd legit watch a western style stand off competition in the Olympics
Lincoln Watson
>re
Ryan Green
Sour grapes detected
David Mitchell
No, rode BMX cruisers for yuks mostly. THAT was fun. Still have it too.
You need to try a better club. The guy I trained with got to 3rd in the Steel Challenge.
Bentley Jones
Well numbnits do you recall how an ipsc competitor and fellow shooters held off terrorits in some african mall until the popos came? No? That guy was just spotted in another spot saving the day with his shooting skills. So yes it helps. Most people flee from the sound of a gunshot, to these guys it could just be whatever,.
