S&W Model 686 .357

thinking of picking one of these up. anyone had experience with this model?
gonna get it in .357

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Great guns, I think the -4 is the best version.
Used ones in almost new condition cost about the same as new ones, so look around and get the variant you want.

But used
Don’t support S&W

>buy used
>drive up the cost of used because of increased demand
>not only inflate impression of value in used S&W, but drive up demand for new because of lower price delta
>increase both demand and price for new

Yeah buying used still supports the brand.

I have the 66-3
Very accurate and a great trigger
My friend has the 686 it’s much heavier
But same great trigger

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why do so many people hate S&W?

Why not? S&W is fine, under new ownership since the Clinton fiasco.

If you buy Remington or Springfield tho u a cuck

I had one, absolutely fantastic guns. Shits all over Ruger in terms of trigger quality. I'll be buying another at some point.

When people pick up a revolver. You will here this "Nice trigger, almost as good as Smith Wesson" What does that tell you.
Buy used revolvers. Most have hardly been used at all.

My EDC is the 4 inch 686 Plus and it's great. Make sure you get the Plus.

I prefer the 586

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Will you get a functional gun? Yes. Will you get something that's quality? No.

New S&W revolvers (along with new revolvers of most companies) are not made with craftsmanship anymore. You'd be getting a lot more for your money if you bought an old, used model 686 (or model 66, smaller frame but also 6 shot .357).

I have a 66-4. It's a fantastic little revolver.

Shut up. They sell revolvers without the locks in certain models. SW is arguably the best American gunmaker from the days past. People were boycotting SW back in the late 90s and early 00s. They're a great company that makes fantastic firearms and I'm sure as shit not gonna attempt to hurt them because of the lock mess from 20 years ago. Go be an autist somewhere else
Great gun OP, beefy enough to make .357 not so unpleasant

They're idiots that just spout the same shit over and over. Just like the idiots here who "hate Glock" yet they've probably only been shooting for a year or two. They don't have any real range or knowledge so they just spout the same rhetoric, kinda like fudds. Smith was boycotted pretty hardcore in the early 00s because they signed on with Clinton putting the locks on their guns. Some of their lineup now has no lock. They're a phenomenal company regardless, easily my favorite

Revolver locks aka Hillary holes, plus modern s&w revolvers are a mere shadow from what they were decades ago.

>Not made with craftsmanship
I'll give you that the blueing doesn't look near as deep or pretty as the pinned ones, but what exactly is lacking with the craftsmanship in the newer ones? From what I understand even their newer classic lineups they've made improvements over the original, granted I'm still privvy to older SWs just like everyone else

get a Ruger, new smith sucks dick

>Mere Shadow
In what aspect besides the lock/bluing? I'm generally curious

The problem with that argument is that they still put the locks on their guns. It's not a distant controversy of the past when they still put the ugly things on their guns.

t. guy that just said he carries a 686 (which is new production although I have removed the lock) and loves it

>I bought a new production SW
So you still support them, which is all I was getting at. They're still a top tier US mfg, I just hate when people spout shit like don't support them, etc... Losing Remington to Remshit is shitty enough I'd hate to lose SW. Colt isn't of it's former self, hell all we'd have that's American and doing good work is Ruger, and while they're great they're just not in the same league as SW

I will never patronize S&W.
That’s my choice. I know a I am not alone.
You may do as you please.

They're still solid guns but the overall fit/finish and frequency of QC issues has gone downhill over the years. I picked one up back before ruger had a 7 shot revolver on the market and overall that's my opinion. Be particularly cautious of their pro series models, IIRC they replaced their actual craftsmen with low wage goons, and extra TLC from them can do more good than harm.
>small area of porosity or improper machining in ejector rod cutout
>fit of barrel shroud to cylinder could be better but doesn't seem actually canted
>screws that mar easier than just about anything else i've worked with, might be pot metal or just improperly heat treated
>slight finish imperfections under grips
>mainspring screw backed out to make trigger feel lighter than it actually could be set for reliable ignition of magnum primers
All of this on a 686+ pro series, only noticed half the issues before buying it but im not too upset considering i got a hell of a discount and ended up with a pretty great shooter at the end of it all. If i was gonna go for round two id definitely go with Ruger though.

Craftsmanship, QA, and quality of the internal parts.

this is now an old Smith thread

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How does the 686 hold up to the classic model 19?

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