>Tfw youll never be allowed to do military service
>ywn become an grown adult male
>ywn become a proper finn and not some gay suomenruotsi
Convince me that im not missing out, it probably sucks and is a total waste of time right???
Tfw youll never be allowed to do military service
What?
>it probably sucks
yes
>a total waste of time
not at all
You can get the peninsula back or die trying.
No russian left alive on Finnish soil!
Woke up to run a pft today at 5 am. I cant drive my car for a month because I didnt have my seatbelt on.
I was desperate as fuck though so its all good. As for MOS dont go infantry unless you intend to go to a selection down the road like scout sniper. Getting slain isnt as BS as the fact they cant get leave unless its certain dates or whatever.
Why is it not a waste of time?
So are you saying you have sis now?
Sisu
GI bill and cool experiences depending on your mos and branch.
I'd like to remind you that while there is conscription (kutsunnat ja asevelvollisuus) in Finland, it does not have to be seen as negative compulsionary ass-raping thing like compulsionary studying swedish language in school.
Exhibit A: Finnish yaeger-movement.
Back in the day, Finland did NOT have a military. We were under occupation of czarist russia, and it was THEIR military which held the reins of power.
And when the Russians started oppressive campaigns (sortovuodet) Finns found that they had little to fight back with: they HAD NO ARMY of their own. Even if they tried to have guerilla movements and sabotage, they had no experience about these activities.
So some few thousand young men decided to risk it all. They organized a secret underground movement to transport those few thousand men outside Finland and go to Germany to GET that military training they so lacked. They organised funding, accommodation, safe-houses, masqueraded as boy scouts... all these were illegal! They knew that if they were caught, it meant a trip to Siberia.
And yet they did it. They risked it all, left their homes to uncertain future, they PAID to get that military training so that they could learn how to fight back at the oppressors.
For them it wasn't "should I go to military?" it was "How on earth I can get that military training, even if I have to risk everything?"
Remember that there are people in the world that live in crapstanistans and other shitty places which are ruled by some whacky military dictators or something like that.
In these places people might want to fight the oppressing power, but will find it difficult to do so because they have no proper military training.
Even friggin Taliban had to be trained by US forces so they could fight against russian oppression! They didn't have the decent know-how to do it until someone taught it to them.
Military training is an important set of skills, technical know-how and mental and physical training that can be a very important thing to have, should things go badly.
We live in a rather safe and quiet world right now, with little chance of Finland getting into international conflict any time soon.
...but what about 20 years from now?
20 years is a long time, and lot's of things can change.
Some day you might find yourself thinking "man, having some know-how about tactical troop deployments and explosives and such would be REALLY GOOD to have right now."
What if Finland is a dictatorship 20 years from now?
I think military training like a condom: It's good to have it and not need it, rather than need it and not have it.
I hope you'll never really need those skills. But if you do...?
Would love to learn more about these Finnish youth who risked it all to get training to fight for their country. Any good links/books?
One more thing:
Since Finnish military is a conscription thing, there is one aspect in it that you will not get anywhere else:
Meeting all those other people.
Since EVERYONE has to take part in it, you will meet people from all walks of life. Even the kind of people you didn't even know existed before.
You will meet the kind of people that you would NEVER meet in ordinary life. Drug dealers, born-rich-assholes, actually christ-mad religious types, crazy conspiracy theorists, compulsive masturbators, the funniest guy in the universe will be your driver, your squd-leader corporal might be a genuine nazi, the guy next door will become your life-long friend, the most boring individual in the world will be sleeping next to you, you will have to live in the same tent with a person that you genuinely fear might go apeshit from psychosis in the middle of the night, ...and you will just have to DEAL WITH IT.
It will be a rather unique experience to meet all those people so different from you and everything you know or can relate to, and yet just be forced to co-exists and make the best of it.
This can be a traumatic, but also very exhilarating and mind-opening experience. Think: the movie Police Academy but on steroids.
youtube.com
Here's a small piece which has actually a fair bit of info despite the somewhat annoying guy.
Here seems to be a fairly decent publication about Yaeger movement in English
(although only an abstract, but if you have an access to university libraries, you might be able to get an electronic copy from there.)
-From a Revolutionary movement to a Liberation movement: The Finnish Jaeger Troops in Finland's Fight for Independence
by Lasse Laaksonen
Basic period sucked but atleast in Arty rest was decent and quit memorable, I kinda want back.
T. TAS dude
Just for comparison with our Finnish friends. Since 1814 when Norway passed from Denmark control to an 'alliance' with Sweden there was a growing desire for independence. We were not allowed much in the way of an army, of course, but as the 20th century approached a huge 'competition shooting' movement grew up. There were ranges and clubs whereever people lived and in 1905 when we finally got our independence (and Sweden probably said good riddance) there were hundreds of thousands of skilled shooters ready. We didn't have a war. But without this 'non-army' things might not have gone so smoothly. We still have all those clubs and ranges. Rifle shooting was taught in middle school up to ww2 and some places are now trying that again - apparently it does wonders for the kids' attention and focus.
I wish i was allowed to do service, but i have autism and adhd, need to take pills to function somewhat well.
amazing
3/8?
Sounds great for a country like Finland, but if America were to do this it would consist of ass-rape by niggers like in prison or Russian conscription and then being sent off to die as cannon fodder for big oil/Israel.
What works in one country is a disaster in another.