What was the best bolt-action rifle available in WW2?
What was the best bolt-action rifle available in WW2?
Christopher Murphy
Owen Moore
>Available between 1939-1945
K31 maybe, some of the export and Swedish Mausers are very nicely made
Chase Diaz
Enfield. Its sights are infinitely better than the competition. It doesn't matter how strong your Mauser is, or how cool and accurate the k31 was, a guy with an Enfield is going to get you in his sights and drop your ass first without a doubt.
Luis Long
>actually used in the war
for my money its probably a well-made, early/pre-war K98k
yeah yeah tommy, and the mad minute made Germans think they were facing machine guns, sure
Bentley Hernandez
Mosin hands down
>best sight
>most accurate
>cheapest
>good wood
Bentley Gutierrez
Any of the yugoslavian mausers
Leo Peterson
spoken like a man who has never fired an SMLE
Jose Thompson
Jordan Hall
K31 imo, with the Swedish Mauser as a runner up, the the German K98K.
Aaron Thompson
-t. never shot any of these guns
Has nothing to do with mad minute memery, everything to do with the fact that Mosin, Mauser, Springfield, and Arisaka sights are all absolute garbage.
I have. I've also shot rabbits with my Swedish Mauser. It's a lot easier with an Enfield. In case literally everyone coming into this thread is retarded like you, here is how you can picture it:
Every other bolt action service rifle in WW2 has AK sights. Enfield has AR sights. There is zero competition.
Ryan Reyes
>Every other bolt action service rifle in WW2 has AK sights. Enfield has AR sights. There is zero competition.
Uhhhh....
Landon Robinson
France sucks and no one cares Ian. You have to last more than a month god damnit.
Isaiah Morales
jungle carbine here.
can confirm
Adrian Parker
my vote is the arisaka
if we're talking in terms of capacity, it might not be the best
however, it is definitely the strongest gun of ww2
tests have been done with it using very hot cartridges and it holds up to many of them
ontop of that they made it chrome lined, so its very likely you wont see one with pitting, unless it was one that saw a lot of sea water
Alexander Howard
1917 eddy stone has peep sights and probably the strongest most durable action of both world wars
limited number of them, very long, a bit heavy, but pretty great guns
Cooper Sanchez
I suppose it depends on what you're looking for.
>best made
Probably Swedish Mauser or k31
>Most collectible
German Mauser most likely
>best for if you were actually in WW2 fighting
Enfield
>action strength
Why does this matter? None of these guns is too weak for its caliber. You can load up 8mm mauser to .300 winmag power. I mean, maybe if your intention is to bubba the shit out of the gun into a safari rifle.
I'd rather have a bent bolt handle, good sights, and a bigger magazine.
Landon Nguyen
shot an underpowered rifle round to begin with
Nicholas Taylor
Yeah. Know what else that gun is? An Enfield.
Colton Hernandez
wasn't it made in the US, chambered in 30-06, and used mainly by americans?
Jeremiah Lewis
en.wikipedia.org
Yep. It is a 30'06 Enfield. Eddystone was a manufacturer of it, as were Springfield and Remington.
Similar story for the 1903 Springfield. Mauser, licensed for production by the US.
Hunter Morgan
7.7 will break your shoulder son
Carter Jackson
Except France and Free French forces were used throughout the conflict.
Dominic Martinez
garand
David Baker
This is wrong.
Isaiah Hall
>1903
It was not licensed, which is why a US court awarded substantial royalties to Mauser over the design
Wyatt Ross
Nathaniel Sanchez
a 1914 enfield is not the same as a lee-enfield
Julian Thompson
Yeah, that's wrong. It is in no way related to the Lee Enfield series of rifles. Read a book or watch a video on the subject.
Blake Davis
This is also wrong.
Evan Jenkins
>Every other bolt action service rifle in WW2 has AK sights. Enfield has AR sights. There is zero competition
I am sure I am going to miss a few but
1903A3
M1917
Type 99
Some type 38
Mas 36
Samuel Wright
>It is in no way related to the Lee Enfield
Good thing I left out the Lee.
Liam Gray
so good even (((they))) had to use it after it was used to exterminate them
Chase Barnes
That's the important part you dumbass.
Anthony Long
Is nobody going to mention that OP's pic is a bad air rifle repro?
Samuel Bell
Ethan Taylor
Cccombo breaker
Jeremiah Rivera
you're right. I looked it up. I guess they agreed to royalties with Mauser, then got sued over infrigement on the spitzer bullet. Then when the war started, the government siezed the spitzer bullet patent, and then after the war US courts fined the government over the siezure
More gun lore that turns out to be BS. What else is new. Thanks for correcting me.
Josiah Stewart
Fuck you
Juan Mitchell
Wrong. Sometime during the late design, maybe early production, someone realized that they may be infringing on some of Mausers patents. Mauser was approached and a deal was worked out.
Later Mauser's parent company, Lowe, annoyed that Mauser made a decision without them, tried to sue about infringing on bullet design of the 30-06 cartridge (spitzer bullets). Before it could be concluded (the US was winning the legal arguments) WW1 erupted. The US seized the patent when it entered the war. The court case you are referring to is the illegal seizure of the patent, for which Lowe received a tidy sum for.
Ethan Roberts
I looked it up. thanks
Jose Russell
The Jews used whatever they could get their hands on in 1948, not because the rifles were good.
Henry Smith
Jesus fucking Christ you're retarded
Look at a picture of both rifles and tell me those receivers are the same
David Wood
Mausers are better mechanically
No4 Enfields had the best sights and magazine setup.
Isaac Butler
looking pretty similar
Justin Hall
Reading this thread gave cataracts. Thanks for the insane ammounts of retardation I have been forced to witness.
Also this is a question that really doesn't have a good answer.
Lincoln Johnson
Julian James
Luke Evans
>and magazine setup.
No. A easily damaged mag with bad springs to begin with is not a good mag situation.
Lucas Harris
3 men with 3 mosins is better than one guy with a mauser.
Carter Richardson
They see me trollliiiiin
Jace Walker
That wasn't actually the question was it
Parker Watson
>3 people with ok rifles are better than 1 person with a good rifle
Glad you can count, Dimitry
Carter James
Based and redpilled
Nathaniel Nelson
Mosin was the best rifle available in WWII.
Not the best rifle for a person, but the best rifle for an army.
Christian Lewis
No, it wasn't. It was complicated and time consuming to make compared to others like the Mas 36. But its what the Soviets had and it worked well enough.
Brody Thomas
Get off Jow Forums, Lennie.
Luis Mitchell
Frog rifles are renowned to be problematically shit and unreliable compared to others of their day
Joseph Baker
[Citation needed]
Daniel Powell
Adam Murphy
m-muh chauchat
Luke Ramirez
enfield no4mk1, fastest sights and bolt didnt require you to remove cheekweld like mausers and mosins.
k31 was never tested in combat so we might never know
Cooper Cook
>implying any such extermination took place
Juan Baker
So you're saying a german rifleman is worth three muzhiks with shit rods
Carter Phillips
>USSR didn't know that the Tzar Bomba was fuckhuge until they tested it
ur dum
Nathaniel Cook
was the k31 tested for reliability in jungle environments? sandy desert?
Nolan Barnes
hey, for all they know the bomb could just be a big dud
Sebastian Edwards
Mosin. It won the war. Everything else was shit.
Ryder Bailey
That's because no one was stupid enough to start shit with the mountain jews.
>no4mk1
The bong fangirl who competition shoots the Lee put up the same RoF with almost no K31 training.
youtube.com
Adam Edwards
What are follow up shots and a manageable round for conscripts? Nips are also tiny.
Isaiah Cox
That's why you never take the mag out and issue multi-tools to your troops when they don't follow directions.
Hunter Hernandez
That doesn't improve on a weak design. It also doesn't prevent the mag from being damaged through regular use because it is exposed instead of flush with the rifle body.
Benjamin Watson
M1 Garand
Kayden Rodriguez
10 rnd mag, speed loaders, SMLE is the queen of the battlefield
Noah Gray
Jace Miller
Chase Clark
>What was the best bolt-action rifle available in WW2?
M1917 Enfield
Grayson Hernandez
That gets my vote.
Angel Mitchell
I remember watching a documentary about the early Israeli military, flying a bunch of...I think it was Czech or Yugoslavian made Bf-109s, in Luftwaffe uniforms with the symbols yanked off
Noah Moore
None, all were made obsolete by the M1 Garand.
Caleb Hill
Springfield
Carson Howard
this guy doesnt even know how to shoulder a gun. he doesnt hold any of the guns properly so im not going to judge anything from his dumb test of inept shooting
Luke James
PROTIP: the P14 and M1917 Enfields use a Mauser action, not a Lee-Enfield action
Charles Lopez
Yep, Avia S-199s. Unsurprisingly they were almost unsafe to fly.
Adam Gutierrez
carcano m38
James Lopez
1903A3
Daniel Young
Isaac Martin
fuck off kike
Nolan Nelson
"When MAGA fascists come close to Comrade Ian"...
Jeremiah Hughes
>M1903A3
03A3 indeed has a peep sight and is a fantastic rifle all-around. I have my great-grandfather's from the war and I used to shoot 3 inch groups at 300 yds with iron sights. Hard to beat IMO.
Elijah Gomez
Still waiting to see those mountains of human remains.
Luke Perry
Probably the MAS-36. It was the last adopted and so likely the most refined option available.
Nathan Evans
Arisaka, both type 38 and 99.
Levi Nguyen
>A ww1 Machine gun respresents bolt action rifles in WW2
Wow. You are retarded.
I prefer my Arisaka... But French guns are great.
Christian Sanchez
You are very correct comrade! Mosin is number one!
Cooper Morales
>>action strength
>Why does this matter?
Bubbaing rifles is pretty much heresy. But at least here in Norway, there's an over abundance of k98ks left from the war. Lots of them got bubbaed right after the war.
I see no problem with taking one of those, that have already lost its collector value, and turn it in to a cheap elephant rifle or something.
Luis Turner
Only the Finn rifles are decent and they suck compared to every other rifle
No4 was mo better
Luke Parker
MAS-36 hands down
>neither too short nor too long
>clever designed action for short pulls
>very few, also large parts
>integrated bayonet
>long line of sight
>stock consists of three parts so you can switch broken ones pretty quick
>solid round
It was the last bolt action fielded by a major military. It may have been late, but it incorporated a lot of stuff the frogs had learned.
Cooper Green
in a miniscule matter mate, their fucking navy decided to stay neutral instead of joining the allies/briutain after france fell.
Benjamin Fisher
new bolt actions, is the mosin not good?
Carter Ortiz
>Last bolt-action fielded by a major military
Canada still issued SMLE's until last year